Gravity - just pure plain GRAVITY

[Bodkins]

... the wrong direction .. as in misdirection?

YouTube - Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment. English version
But what does these mean?
Gravity effects light?
Light effect gravity?
OR is it, None of the above?

none of the above light is gravity

[CloudSeeder]

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[Aaron]

@Tehnoman and @all

can't stop thinking that people would have found these proofs and ether would be living subject in my study program. Oh well.

And gravity relates to time flow.

Btw, theory is good, but experiment is the best. I can't understand, why there are no schematics for levitating capacitors with such detailed knowledge about ether and gravity.

Best of wishes.

Hi Tehnoman @ all

There are actually a lot of very well-known, studied, proven, published, etc... things that contradict the conventional indoctrination but it just hasn't made it to the "mainstream."

Just think about the semi-conductor companies. The transistors, etc... are explained by hole theory and a lot of contradictions to the absolutely flawed electron current model. If they tried to build these things according to what is taught by conventional wisdom (electron current), nothing would work. lol

So I just personally never bought into the concept that if there was something proven that it would be pushed to the front when in fact the opposite is usually true...it is pushed to the back so as not to rock the boat I think but no matter why these things don't get pushed to the front of the radar, the fact remains, they're all over the place.

The rate of time flowing is dependent on the density of the aether. It is always more dense near the mass and gets less dense further away. From an "outside" observer, light travels faster in low density aether and light travels slower in high density aether.

The observer on the "inside" will never tell a difference and everything will seem "normal" because their own conscious awareness based on visible light will simply be by default...appear to be at light speed.

If you have a bowl of water and wind up a rubber band powered propeller plane and stick it in water, yes there is some resistance, but the propeller will spin at a good speed...this is a lower density area of aether and time ticks fast.

If you have a bowl of gelatin, wind up the propeller and let it go, it will go slower because the density causes more resistance to the propeller unwinding and it spins slower...this is a higher density area of aether and time ticks slower.

If a local observer was in water or in the gelatin, neither would be able to tell the difference because their own observation machinery is dependent on how fast light is traveling, etc... and it will be slower or faster depending on the density that the observation is taking place so no matter what, it will always seem normal.

From an outside observer, it is apparent that light is moving fast thru the water and slow thru the gelatin.

The more mass per volume of space, the more displacement and more rebound for stronger gravity and therefore more dense aether and therefore slower light travel and slower time and visa versa for faster time with less density, faster light, etc...

Lifters are the most practical devices anyone can build that do overcome the gravitational pull. Many think it is simply ion propulsion but the amount of lift that has been calculated can NOT be accounted for by the ion breeze emitting from them alone. I have to find it but there is even a letter from the Department of the Army that indicates there is something else that cannot be accounted for by ions alone.

It is 100% completely explainable by what I have explained...not just explainable but predictable.

Here is one fact that I haven't shared..maybe I have on the forum..not sure, but take an aluminum sphere and put it on a balance beam with an equal weight on the other side...it will balance.

Project high frequency pulsed microwaves over the sphere and the aluminum will tip upwards from loss of weight...also from the same concept of the lifters that hasn't been discussed.

Aluminum is non ferrous and the atomic matrix is scattered. There isn't a symmetrical matrix like a ferrous metal can have. When pumping it at high frequencies like this, the electron fields in the aluminum increase their energy level (if electrons even exist) - but what happens is that the atoms align so in that moment, it is polarized similar to a ferrous metal and the downward moving aether has more empty space to move through instead of hitting a scattered matrix pushing it down. Mass is the same but how can it weigh less? It is a manipulation of the material.

Anyway that is an oversimplified explanation.

I won't spell out the who or why I know some of this because I respect people's privacy but I would recommend that anyone interested in this field get Electric Spacecraft Journal Electric Spacecraft Journal because some of the contributors are actual "saucer" engineers for some of the major defense companies that everyone knows their name (name of the big company(s) I mean). Most people wouldn't know who they are by reading their articles, but there is a lot more KNOWN than most people thing. But it is one of the few magazines that I know of where they real discussions are taking place - and a lot is based on inside information. Believe it or not. They have back issues available - perhaps they are online somewhere.

Anyway, there is a lot more than levitating capacitors that have been developed.

[Aaron]

propulsion

So, by making exist an area of complete nothingness you think:

1. that will make an instant portal not across a distance but just be there when its deflected? ...

2. and that the ship didn't travel any speed in doing so? ... so you're talking about

3. a small collapsing of Space beside the ship? ... like folding space

4. except inverted folding? collapsing the far area back to include the ship?

Instead of moving, it is like standing still and having space slip past you. That dosen't mean that a distance is traveled and it is a matter of perspective or semantics. If there isn't the aether to move through and it slips around the shell, there is no distance.

I would say a portal is different even though the objective would be the same...get from A to B without having to travel the distance.

A portal would by its own nature create the path and with the ship conducting the aether over the shell instead of thru it, it is localized to the area of the ship.

Research into worm holes and the premise for the Stargate moves in case I didn't mention it were by military remote viewers. I would recommend anyone learn the skill because if you want to look into the unknown you have to use the only thing that will get you there without empirical evidence, the mind.

When you're good, you can get 80% accurate 80% of the time or better.

I think some of the terminology like folding space could be misleading but it gets the point across. Behind the ship and relative to the ship, space is compressing down around the backside and that is how it helps to push the ship into a vacuum so there is no resistance that the ship encounters...a negative resistance actually.

But from the perspective of someone in the space, since light is traveling through the aether and continues on depending on how the aether is dense or less dense, when the light gets to the eyes of the observer, they will see nothing because they will only see light propagating through the space and will not see anything that has space slipping around it. An observer would simply see look straight at the ship and would simply see light that is moving to or away from the space that is in front of the ship, moving around the ship and to the observer.

A ship could be visible but at the moment of propulsion, it would simply disappear into subspace where positive light cannot propagate. The ship would only be visible when it's shell is not separating the charges of the aether causing it to deflect over the shell.

[john_g]

Aaron
Many thanks for your in depth answers/steers. May I ask how would you explain tide flows re the aether and the moon? Sorry if this seems obvious.

[CloudSeeder]

"aether interruption" tides as the Moon passes between earth & sun briefly / daily?

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[CloudSeeder]

Jumping Outer Space Breaking Hadron Super-Collider Rules? Might work for us!

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[Tehnoman]

Ok, this was really one inspiring answer... But.

Hi Tehnoman @ all

There are actually a lot of very well-known, studied, proven, published, etc... things that contradict the conventional indoctrination but it just hasn't made it to the "mainstream."

Just think about the semi-conductor companies. The transistors, etc... are explained by hole theory and a lot of contradictions to the absolutely flawed electron current model. If they tried to build these things according to what is taught by conventional wisdom (electron current), nothing would work. lol

Actually I have been taught conventional wisdom about semiconductors. There is not only phenomenon from electromagnetics but also from quantum mechanics. And as far as I could understand everything were ok. Of course, it is a slippery topic - I haven't built a semiconductor my self.

So I just personally never bought into the concept that if there was something proven that it would be pushed to the front when in fact the opposite is usually true...it is pushed to the back so as not to rock the boat I think but no matter why these things don't get pushed to the front of the radar, the fact remains, they're all over the place.

The rate of time flowing is dependent on the density of the aether....
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It is 100% completely explainable by what I have explained...not just explainable but predictable.
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Project high frequency pulsed microwaves over the sphere and the aluminum will tip upwards from loss of weight...also from the same concept of the lifters that hasn't been discussed.
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Anyway that is an oversimplified explanation.
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Anyway, there is a lot more than levitating capacitors that have been developed.

Nice and simple explanation. Gosh, I wish I had a time to more think about this stuff. For know I just try to read what I can in my free time and find an experiment (simple enough to be analyzable, smart enough to prove classical assumptions wrong) to make and convince myself. My next target is high speed switching and charging capacitors, will see what will come out of it.

I have read P.Lindemman work "World of Free Energy" where problems of spreading such information is discussed. But something doesn't make sense... My field of interest is mainly Electromagnetics. As for now I haven't succeeded in finding Maxwell-Heviside equation flaws.

Ok, I have made it a bit off-topic, but I guess I should allow this thread to continue on it's main target - gravity.

[CloudSeeder]

If gravity is increased from circular motion isn't that

[Aaron]

gravity, tides and the aether

Aaron
Many thanks for your in depth answers/steers. May I ask how would you explain tide flows re the aether and the moon? Sorry if this seems obvious.

Hi John,

These are of course my interpretations but in concept, still, all these concepts fit together in a very seamless manner, it appears.

Cloudseeder mentioned that by the moon simply moving there is that effect. It would probably require mapping out the geometries of the Earth, Sun, Moon at different times of the day to see how it all corroborates.

This is how I would predict what is happening if I had to start from scratch to think about what would happen. I have already thought it out and of course may be right or wrong but this is the process I would take.

The moon has about double the gravitational influence on Earth that the sun has.

I would go to looking at how gravitational attraction between 2 bodies comes into play.

Two pieces of matter can't occupy the same space (debatable) but two pieces of matter can influence the same aether between them.

Where the moon is over the Earth, it is taking away some of the aetheric rebound back to the Earth probably the strongest where it is directly overhead.

That side of the Earth will have a weaker gravitational pull compared to if the moon was on the same side as the sun. This would mean that the water under the moon will would be the highest at those areas.

The place on Earth where the the gravity is highest (away from where the moon is) will be pushing the water down stronger in those areas displacing it away to the other parts of the Earth. It is displaced to the side where the moon is and therefore would be at a higher level (high tide).

This is what my explanation would predict at least.

So if there is a solar eclipse, the sun and moon both are taking away more of the rebounding aether back to the Earth. Therefore, there would be the least gravitational pull on that side of the Earth. So, the tide should be the highest there.

Simultaneously, the far side of the Earth away from the solar eclipse would have the strongest pull on the Earth and the tide should be lowest since the stronger gravitational pull is pushing on the water stronger displacing it to the side of the Earth where the solar eclipse is.

The thought about the gravitational "pull" from the moon and effect on tide isn't new of course, I'm just proposing the interaction of the aether. And the concept that the moon is "pulling" on the Earth is false I believe. According to the model, there is simply less aetheric rebound to that side of the Earth since some is shared with the moon's own displacement. If they want to call it a "pull" that's fine but I don't think it is simply seeing it for what it is.

An easy way to see the displacement effect and rebounding is to sit a ball inside of water. It displaces the water and the water is trying to push back on all sides of the ball to go back to where it was displaced from.

Every single "particle" with mass displaces the entire Universe by that much and the entire universe pushes back on that one single particle.

[Aaron]

antigravity

Many gravity articles, etc... from some that worked with the big companies, Lockheed, Boeing, etc...

New Energy Times - Fusion Information Center Archive - Index to Full Bibliography

Frederick E. Alzofon, The Unity of Nature and the Search for a Unified Field Theory Physics Essays, vol 6, no 4, pp 559-608, 24 refs. FF Oct. 1994

Frederick E. Alzofon, Anti-Gravity with Present Technol.: Implementation and Theoretical Foundation in Proc. of AIAA/SAE/ASME 17th Joint Propulsion Conf.,1982, CO, 33 pages, 36 refs. FF Oct. 1994

(both links are to the same pdf)...in the New Energy Times link above, there are a LOT of pdfs you can download on all kinds of topics. Many are pretty heady but it's great to see they're freely available.

[CloudSeeder]

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[john_g]

Great points Aaron, and my bad for failing to specify "effective" pulling.

Aaron & Cloudseeder

Thanks for the posts- just need to get my head round it all!

Cheers

John

[CloudSeeder]

Meteors and the Shooting Gallery We Are Already In

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