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  • Originally posted by CloudSeeder View Post
    You're an optimist. I don't entertain the idea they plan for everyone to have it.
    I don't think that it's their plan, I think that it is inevitable. The future is in that direction, and the control and greed has to end, if not, we are doomed, then there is a path up, and a path down, we'd better choose the way to heaven.

    Anyway, I found a patent of an idea which I came up with recently
    http://www.pat2pdf.org/patents/pat20070012124.pdf

    The patent doesn't say boldly, but If it works it is an anti-gravity engine. I don't know if the inventor has built a prototype, it can also be used to power our cars, without wasting so much energy in our combustion engine.

    Elias
    Humility, an important property for a COP>1 system.
    http://blog.hexaheart.org

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    • Ya have to be their Swamp Thing first to get Space suits.

      future has a strong tendency to zzzzzzzzz.
      Last edited by CloudSeeder; 12-12-2009, 07:36 AM.

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      • We haven't seen it blasted across the major newspaper front pages?

        The Russians already zzzzzzzzz.
        Last edited by CloudSeeder; 12-12-2009, 07:37 AM.

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        • The Egytians claimed to have transended both the upper world and the underworld. The pharoahs were looked upon as gods by the average citizens.
          They supposedly had the power of life over death, as fas as the populace was concerned. It is no different today. We look at those in charge as our caretakers, but the Egytians had a knowledge we no longer posess. They claimed to have the capability to tranport their pharoahs into the afterlife, or world of the gods.Some of these abilities are talked about in Exodus(in the bible). Their wizards had the ability to transform sticks into snakes. We still don't know the true reason the pyramids were built. They only left heirglyphs of their daily routine and lives, so most of their knowledge was destroyed when their library at Alexandria was burned. There is evidence of a past civilization on the moon.The Egytians? Maybe their declaration of walking amongst the stars was only figurative, or maybe they really did, who knows?
          good Luck. Stealth

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          • That's the problem with zzzzzzz.
            Last edited by CloudSeeder; 12-12-2009, 07:37 AM.

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            • Back to Gravity

              Dear All,

              it is time to get back to the thread relation:

              Unless it is really directly related to Gravity and the real physical current day research;
              please do not post here.
              All these other junk and side tracks just makes it very time consuming and difficult for other to follow the whole thread on later stage and get updated.


              Things like posting from 'Starwars' and 'X-files' movies are not related;
              it is all still just a bunch of computer CAD dreamers.

              We have modern technology and we have this most wonderful tool: Internet.
              But with everything we have today, no success has been achieved. Thus we are back to my slogan below: Get NEW IDEAS!

              I have made a few acceptances in this field, then I spend my valuable time in researching that; not only in this 'overunity' kind of environment; but also very wide like health, military, sound, history, religion, etc.

              I came thus far to the conclusion (although this is still theoretical). I did design new experiments around this conclusion which I am currently building parts.

              1) Gravity is the result of cosmic push force.
              2) Gravity is directly related to what is generally called the "Aether"
              3) Aether is a 'soup' of photons, and such photons are in various levels of energy which we can call electrons, neutrons, protons, etc.
              4) By using STATIC electricity we should be able to divert this aether around our equipment
              5) Weight would not matter; whatever is inside the energy shell will have no weight!

              CURRENT TARGET:
              First I am going back on current technology track and want to verify a few things. I would appreciate some help in setting up real experiments and share info here on this page.

              1) MEASURING EQUIPMENT:
              To what extend can we use plasma as measuring device for electrical and magnetic charges. I think the modern measuring equipment like gauge meters, multi-meters are all in-correct and does not give us what we really need. I trust by using plasma it will enable us to really SEE the effects. Amongst these are the possibility to re-design and apply equipment like “Interferometer”, create some kind of smoke which will react to electro/magnetic fields, etc.

              2) COILS:
              The next step would be to wind various coil shapes: standard, linear, cylindrical, toroid, helical, bi-filar, Cadeceus, Rodin and others to actually see their operation and effects.

              3) CONCEPT OF IONIC WIND:
              Further testing on the concept of ionic wind needs to be performed, in particular to determine the optimal distance and voltage levels to achieve best performance between capacitors.

              4) WEIGHT REDUCTION:
              Apply the above in various formats to see where we do get confirmed weight reduction, best results in measuring equipment, coils, and capacitors. Then use this to build first model.

              5) GEAR REDUCTION:
              Lastly we will need to build new devices to remove the requirements of electronics completely; since they will be vulnerable to EMP and quite useless in HV static environment.

              6) LASTLY:
              Once all the features are understood, it will be time to do material research, optimization and eventually the actual big day of Proto-Type.
              Last edited by Aromaz; 12-09-2009, 10:35 PM.
              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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              • To cheat Earth's aether: Opposites Attract, oldest trick in the book:

                zzzzzzzzzzzzz
                Last edited by CloudSeeder; 12-12-2009, 07:37 AM.

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                • As we try to further our study of gravity, it is important to realize men have studied this phenomena for centuries. Some of the most brilliant minds of their time. We do have an advantage, because of our technical knowledge, but we, as of yet have not designed an instrument senstive enough or precise enough to actually measure gravity beyond it's specific attraction on different types of matter. It may take a great many hours of dedicated experimentation to grasp a concept as to what we are actually dealing with. I hope experimenters here volunteer to do some of these experiments to determine it's parameters, it very nature of existence. I know everyone is busy this time of year, but this could end up being very beneficial to our developement of gravity motors, or other types of OU or FE motors in general. Good Luck. Stealth

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                  • Originally posted by Stealth View Post
                    As we try to further our study of gravity, it is important to realize men have studied this phenomena for centuries. Some of the most brilliant minds of their time. We do have an advantage, because of our technical knowledge, but we, as of yet have not designed an instrument senstive enough or precise enough to actually measure gravity beyond it's specific attraction on different types of matter. It may take a great many hours of dedicated experimentation to grasp a concept as to what we are actually dealing with. I hope experimenters here volunteer to do some of these experiments to determine it's parameters, it very nature of existence. I know everyone is busy this time of year, but this could end up being very beneficial to our developement of gravity motors, or other types of OU or FE motors in general. Good Luck. Stealth
                    Quite correct, indeed; once we do get to understand gravity we will also be able to generate other forces like motion and electricity.

                    One place to start is by correctly use and apply the simple Interferometer.
                    Here is a nice description video:
                    YouTube - Extended Michelson-Morley Interferometer experiment. English version

                    I have been in contace with Martin Grusenick; he went into hospital for an operation on 12 Nov and I have not heard form him since.
                    Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                    • Damn

                      Hopefully he's just recovering. My mind keeps coming back to that experiment he did.

                      How can we cheaply remake the interferometer so we can see what effect static electricity etc has on aether flow (gravity)?
                      Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                      • Aether is like water then maybe we can design an aether hydrofoil?

                        zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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                        • Majority of Aether is above us <> hydrofoils upside down!

                          zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
                          Last edited by CloudSeeder; 12-12-2009, 07:38 AM. Reason: Spinning really fast they would create an outward-directed vortex, again being the opposite of what we see with water.

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                          • Interferometer & the Theory of the Three-Sided Saucers/Aether Deflection System

                            So, if you zzzzzzzzzz
                            Last edited by CloudSeeder; 12-12-2009, 07:38 AM.

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                            • Ahh, and then what happens when you are in space, away from the gravity of Earth? You have to look, look and look again.

                              It is time for experiments, not so much just gargling about movies.

                              Talk is cheap. Unless you really do experiments and share those findings, you will always be on the outside of the majority of this people here on Energetic.

                              I have seen a young boy here in a orphanage in Thailand coming up with real interesting methods; DOING experiments with as much as ZERO money!

                              Try this: Pick up from auto repair shop all their dead/replaced coils (even the coil plugs of modern gasoline engines) cut them open and take out coils. Next from dust bins at restaurants he scavanged tin foils and polystyrene bags.

                              Some of his capacitors are bottles of sea water saturated with rock salt he scraps from rocks (Salt is not common in Thailand). From old microwaves and CFL's, TV's, etc. he scavanged a lot of spare parts - including a still working flyback.

                              With no cost at all: He made a capacitor, have coils, have HV, have TESLA coil toy!

                              Know what is the biggest shock in all:
                              He is dyslectic! He can not read/comprehend letters.
                              He works on pictures, videos and what his friends tell him from their school's library computer!

                              Disability does not give you any valid excuse. If you can write so much, you can also read more.
                              AND you CAN do the experiments.

                              Experiments is all about coming up with something new.
                              Therefore we need to find NEW ways, NEW experiments and NEW lines of thoughts.

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                              • Aromaz: Thanks for all those great paragraphs. btw, what movie?

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