Donald L Smith

[mlurye]

@amigo/baroutologos
Device on photo is conceptual device and I don't think it ever worked. It represents basic idea of briefcase device, not a sized replica. Don mentioned that briefcase device is a solid state device.
I don't know how does it actually work, but I'll try to figure it out. Because I do believe the device is real.
The next thing I will try to do is to go solid state. So if you have any ideas on how to do it I'll be glad to discuss it with you.

[dragon]

@amigo/baroutologos
Device on photo is conceptual device and I don't think it ever worked. It represents basic idea of briefcase device, not a sized replica. Don mentioned that briefcase device is a solid state device.
I don't know how does it actually work, but I'll try to figure it out. Because I do believe the device is real.
The next thing I will try to do is to go solid state. So if you have any ideas on how to do it I'll be glad to discuss it with you.

Since the table top unit was never demonstrated as a working unit you have to treat it as a non working unit. The suitcase demonstration, since it was never opened, has to be considered a possible fake no matter how much we want to believe it worked. To replicate a device that was known never to work - in public anyway, seems self defeating... why replicate a non working unit as the results are known. Either way, some of dons theory's are workable, we can take it from there and work through the obvious.

If you look at the second portion of his "simple device", the L2 and IT are connected directly together - short circuit senario. This converts all the voltage to current so we are working in the realm of pulsed electromagnatism, moving current from the resonant circuit to the output IT.

The trick is in finding resonance in a loaded coil, and not disturbing or loading the primary resonant circuit. The output becomes "new energy" and out of phase with the input thus it's not loading the input circuit.

This is simply my take on what he was attempting to accomplish...
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[wrtner]

This is simply my take on what he was attempting to accomplish...

No, it isn't. It is Patrick Kelly's explanation on page 38
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter5.pdf

[dragon]

No, it isn't. It is Patrick Kelly's explanation on page 38
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter5.pdf

Thanks for pointing that out, I didn't realize there was a section in Chapter 5 relating to Dons device in there. I worked through it by experimenting with some of his work from the chapter 3 write up.

More reading to do as it appears, not enough time in a day for everything I'd like to do....
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[mlurye]

dragon,
it is done in Kacher by Brovin. So may be we need somehow to combine 2.

[dragon]

dragon,
it is done in Kacher by Brovin. So may be we need somehow to combine 2.

I started watching one of the videos on Youtube, since I can't understand a word he is saying, I simply couldn't follow in what he was trying to explain. Are there any english translations to his work?
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[mlurye]

I started watching one of the videos on Youtube, since I can't understand a word he is saying, I simply couldn't follow in what he was trying to explain. Are there any english translations to his work?

check overunity.com, I think they do have a translation.
Here is schema....

[stebra@xtra.co.nz]

Don Smiths circuits

Hi All,
I am a newcomer here, although I see that so many others like myself have had a go at replicating Don Smiths circuits.
The particular neon transformer I have, I have set at 3kv outpt.
Don has two diodes in this output effectively producing pulsed DC.
This is then fed into L1 and tuning cap.
The input impedence of L1/cap circuit is only 2.5 ohms at 35 kcs !!

This of course kills stone dead any high voltage.
The neon output can deliver a maximum of 10 milliamps.
This is like attempting to feed an elephant with a teaspoon.
No matter how fast you feed it, you will never satisfy the elephant.
35 kcs is still too slow.
I at first followed strictly the number of turns on L1 as per Dons example and later tried many turns here (still selecting appropriate cap. for resonance.)
Result - very small output on L2.
Can anyone explain how this terrible mismatch from neon transformer to L1/cap. can be handled?
Is this just a load of impractical rubbish?
To drive L1/cap circuit effectively, you need AMPS going through it.
If this were at high voltage as well, this is of course thousands of watts!!
Don uses a high voltage cap. accross L1, but no high voltage can appear here when the load is not far from a short circuit!
Steele Braden

[baroutologos]

I am reading Tesla's colorado springs notes and i am amazed the extent which all the Tesla copy-cats are using his circuits.
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Tesla realized that IF you have the spark gap in series with the L1C1 (when it breaks then resonates) then you get a lower Q. Period. (diagram1)

He tried to change that and devised some methods successfuly.
See diagram 2. thus he attained MUCH greater Qs and yes, with a teaspoon fed the elephant that way.
So the spark gap handled far less current strength than the main resonator circuit. Note the source can be an alternator or just plain pulsed DC of a NST with diodes.

I suggeste since you go that path to take a look at the Colorado springs notes book when time permits.

[amigo]

My friends, I am with baroutologos on this one. We should drop DS stuff as non-sense and proceed with pure Tesla work.

DS did not have one but at least two tabletop devices. Remember there's the other, big one, with huge capacitors and much larger NST (probably 10-15kV). That one was using some pretty thick copper wire and what not.

Beside an obvious reason, to pull a con, why would DS build more than one device that did not work, he had 9 altogether even?

And, you all remember photos of the original tabletop device surrounded by various instruments, as if it was being tested, yet no in or out wires coming from it. Was it all a photo-op, a staged shoot to give it more validity?

Lastly, was he a "plant" sent out to mud the waters of FE research even more. To his own admission, he worked for the petroleum interests (unsubstantiated as there's no evidence to that either) and he might have been sent out on a "new" assignment.

Such are the possibilities we have to consider, dishonesty, deception and foul play. We do not have the facts - believing is not knowing and nothing can change that.

[mlurye]

@amigo/baroutologos,
I'm not sure which way you are planning to go now.

@All
I'm planning to use Don's device as conceptual design and do whatever I can to make it work.

And now I'm back to my original question on how to get 200kHz on spark arrestor.

So far I see 3 possibilities.
In general to replace spark arrestor with HV MOSFET (highest available I've seen is 1.4 Kv) so I think I need 2 in sequence.
1. Drive MOSFET by function generator (not much flexible)
2. Use Kacher idea with back feed
3. Some kind of hybrid between 1 and 2. (Tariel Kapanadze)

So if someone can help with schema on how to implement it, I would really appreciate it. To begin with I need help with schema for 1. Drive 2 MOSFETs by function generator.

[baroutologos]

My way to go is the following.

I will stick to Tesla's circuits for achieving great resonance, still i try to tap it.
IMO this thread is not about Don Smith alone because he is not the most reliable person...

Too many technologies are based upon the Tesla resonance concepts that claim free energy. Namely, Kapanadze, rotoverter, Meyel, Dr. Stifller's sec and everything possessing LC circuits.

[boguslaw]

It's simple as 2x2
Make a MOSFET circuit which driven by small current suddenly damage MOSFET of even BURN it. You will have stage 1 - anomaly.
The proceed ....

[h2ocommuter]

successfull cap charging

The thanks actually goes to Armagdn03, he's the one that guided me in the right direction to discovery. I found you could recreate the effect using diodes and/or LED's in a tank circuit. Just like an LCR but replace the "R" with diodes pointing toward each other. In the middle of the diodes send a signal in, when it's in resonance there will be 2 distinctive peaks of 2 frequencies. The diodes will act similar to a varactor because of the time it takes to recover.

Don's diode set up is most likely creating a similar effect. It would appear to me the cap(s) is simply to set the resonance of L1 matched to the NST.

I ran into this the other day while poking around on the web, http://www.hvlabs.hu/zpe/Gruz/kapanadze.jpg , It appears to be a don smith device modified to operate a Tesla hairpin output of sorts. I thought it was interesting in it's simplicity... A translation would be nice for the details but most can be visually interpreted.

I found it quite interesting playing with the parametric oscillator, but it would appear that even with the build up and ring down the average energy put into it would be equal to that out of it. The attachement shows one version of it.

Using the above information and incite I have figured out how to charge my caps.

I have taken both leads of my L-2 into a breadboard and two NTE 125 general purpose rectifiers. Through these are connected two LED's to ground.
Thse parts tell me that the spark gap is running and that each rectifier is in operation.
From the input side of the L-2 on the board, I connect the leads of the spark gap
funny how that works.. As allways, using the variable spark gap I have built.
This is the only thing have done to my circuit.
What is very interresting is, as the capacitors charge to the maximum the L-2can supply, the gauss reading diminishes all the way down to zero.
Again I am chasing the illusive rabit of magnetic multiplication of DS.

I have a continuous freq reading using this method and the voltage inside the caps can be reliably measured too.
Again as before When grounding the spark gap directly the gauss meter reads arround 100mG, when going through the circuit as discribed, the gauss reading starts arround 25 mG and reduces in value untill the L-2 cannot add any more value to the caps.

Working together has helped me and I apreciate it.

Zane

[dragon]

Using the above information and incite I have figured out how to charge my caps.

I have taken both leads of my L-2 into a breadboard and two NTE 125 general purpose rectifiers. Through these are connected two LED's to ground.
Thse parts tell me that the spark gap is running and that each rectifier is in operation.
From the input side of the L-2 on the board, I connect the leads of the spark gap
funny how that works.. As allways, using the variable spark gap I have built.
This is the only thing have done to my circuit.
What is very interresting is, as the capacitors charge to the maximum the L-2can supply, the gauss reading diminishes all the way down to zero.
Again I am chasing the illusive rabit of magnetic multiplication of DS.

I have a continuous freq reading using this method and the voltage inside the caps can be reliably measured too.
Again as before When grounding the spark gap directly the gauss meter reads arround 100mG, when going through the circuit as discribed, the gauss reading starts arround 25 mG and reduces in value untill the L-2 cannot add any more value to the caps.

Working together has helped me and I apreciate it.

Zane

Glad it worked out for you. Sounds like you have some consistancy, which is nice for making measurements. Now on to the mysterious energy in excess of input....

You mentioned some time ago where you purchased your 500 strand speaker wire but I haven't been able to locate the post. Would you mind posting a link to that site again...? I have some "flat" 500 strand wire that I've been experimenting with in a semi related project. It works well but I'm limited on single layer turns because of it.

Interestingly enough, using the high stranded wire increases the "Q" considerably. Also, it increases the coils capacitance which can be helpful in certain circumstances - or hurtful depending on the design.

Thanks in advance for the link.... again.
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