Donald L Smith

[h2ocommuter]

Speaker wire.

This is the cable I bought. Knukonceptz product detail for KLEAR KABLE BLUE 10 GAUGE SPEAKER WIRE
One of the shieths is square and the other round.
When I split it by hand the square side was missing some of the protective coating. virtually unnoticable on the other shieth. I don't know if you could split it with a knife I usually fail at perfection whan I have to resort to this measure. I did not try.
I bought the 10 ga.

If you look at the other power cables and other assortments you'll see other choises.

Good luck


another choise,
Knukonceptz product detail for KARMA SS 8 GAUGE SPEAKER WIRE

[deggers]

Hi guys, I was wire shopping today too. 8 AWG 735 strands $0.59 a foot.

Parts-Express.com:*Phoenix Gold PC908 8 AWG Power Cable 1 ft. Silver | pc908 8 gauge 8 guage amp wire car amp wire amplifier amp wire

Duane

[dragon]

Thanks guys ! Got some on order.
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[h2ocommuter]

hunt and peck for information...

Let me ask this question... to everyone,
When you are charging caps is it common that larger caps charge more quickly than smaller ones?
I am talking about 370 v @38 uf verses 200 v @220 uf and 50 v @1uf
for instance I can charge the larger ones to 100 v in about five seconds the next smaller takes a couple of min and the smallest one takes at least 10 min.
is this common with normal electricty applications.
Is there certain math that I could apply?
Just disreguard the insane questions I do realize normal caps are charged instantainiously, probably.
the reason I ask is with these results it would stand to reason that a very large 5.0kv 34 uf cap will charge very quickly. like split seconds...

Next question; What I would like to do is use a grounding trigger that will utilize the cap charge to discharge this quickly aquired electricty.
OK, can I use a 555 timer to build a grounding timmer switch?

Here are the cap sizes and the schematic I am using to charge the caps from the plasm globe.

does this circuit tell anyone how these caps are being charged?
This is as far as I could get in understanding the parametric oscillator.
Just a note, with out the LED's this circuit will not work.

Zane.

[h2ocommuter]

Quick video

I have lots of video, just choping it up into bite sized, intelagible pieces is diffacult.

YouTube - first Capacitor charging .avi

[stebra@xtra.co.nz]

don smiths circuits

Hi all, Regarding Don Smiths circuit - neon transformer to two diodes and then to L1/cap. circuit.
I followed the circuit from Patrick Kellys site Free-Energy Devices, zero-point energy, and water as fuel chapter 3 pages 39 to 48.
There is no spark gap in the main circuit as suggested by contributer here.
The only spark gaps are supposedly for over voltage protection to ground.
Do you think Patrick has mis -copied the circuit in error?
My L1 coil checks out at 7.8 microhenrys.
This is awfully small.
Total impedence of coil and resonant cap. for 35kcs is only 2.5 ohms!
Is anyone else getting a voltage build up on this near short circuit coil/cap.?
If so, how did you accomplish this?
What is this voltage?
mlure - you reckon 200 kcs is the res. freq..
Don says he uses 35.2 kcs.
How do you reconcile these two totally diferent frequencies???

[dragon]

nothing ground breaking but interesting...

I had worked with the shorted copper rings when studying magnetic circuits some time back and found it interesting. When gigo posted the pdf it give me a few new ideas to play with so I started experimenting with the torroids and shorted copper rings again.

Kind of a nightmare in math as you don't know what the coils are going to be or where they will resonate. Each change or the addition of another component will change the outcome of the coils inductance. For example the L1 coil is 120mh by itself, but measures at 64mh with the shorted loop. But when you add the L2 in the loop it changes once again to 34mh. But... you also have to consider the load which will change it once again based on the load but you can get it in the ball park by using a shorted coil.

Below shows the layout in one picture and the other shows it running. It's not running in excess of input but fairly efficient none the less. Maybe some refining once I get a better handle on it.

Quite odd though, testing the coil layout with a FG showed resonance at around 336khz, it runs at 83khz but if you disconnect the pos and reconnect it quickly it will run at 169khz. kind of a degenerate parametric outcome.

Input is 12 volts at .5 amp and the output to the bulb is 150 volts at 45ma. Measuring the shorted ring is just a hair shy of 1 amp AC flowing through it. The NST is one I purchased some time ago for another project from amazing1 and has an output of 2000v at 10ma. The bulb is a 7.5 watt 120 volt night light.

Could be another method of going toward more of a solid state form of DS's unit. There are no caps in this circuit... nothing ground breaking but quite interesting how everything ties together to form a single system.

Another unique feature is the fact the output load doesn't bother the L1 coils resonance as long as L2 is either loaded or shorted, an open circuit will cause it to drop out of resonance at least on this one...

I'm not sure if there is a use for this but it's a great learning tool....
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[dragon]

Let me ask this question... to everyone,
When you are charging caps is it common that larger caps charge more quickly than smaller ones?
I am talking about 370 v @38 uf verses 200 v @220 uf and 50 v @1uf
for instance I can charge the larger ones to 100 v in about five seconds the next smaller takes a couple of min and the smallest one takes at least 10 min.
is this common with normal electricty applications.
Is there certain math that I could apply?
Just disreguard the insane questions I do realize normal caps are charged instantainiously, probably.
the reason I ask is with these results it would stand to reason that a very large 5.0kv 34 uf cap will charge very quickly. like split seconds...

Next question; What I would like to do is use a grounding trigger that will utilize the cap charge to discharge this quickly aquired electricty.
OK, can I use a 555 timer to build a grounding timmer switch?

Here are the cap sizes and the schematic I am using to charge the caps from the plasm globe.

does this circuit tell anyone how these caps are being charged?
This is as far as I could get in understanding the parametric oscillator.
Just a note, with out the LED's this circuit will not work.

Zane.

I'm not sure what you have going on there, interesting that it charges the cap in that configuration. Below is another way to charge the cap as well as add a possible output. ( top portion of the diagram ). The bottom portion shows a degenerate parametric pump where the input frequency would be 2 x that of the tank circuit. The battery addition would help pump energy into the tank. There are simpler ways to get a parametric response but that one can be done with diodes or LED's in place of varactors.
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[baroutologos]

@ Sebra,

Yes, Don's Smith L1L1 is directly related to Tesla's ideas. (read and find out)
As i have explained, Tesla strived for better conversion to have LOWEST possible L1 inductunce with HIGHEST possible C1 capacitance. Of course limits apply as capacitance is directly proportionate to the Generator power pinging the LC circuit. (unless the configurations without the spark gap are used in series to the L1C1. see a couple of posts before)

This allows higest possible amperage flowing in resonance mode (and perhaps the novel phenomena he described?) . This principle is the VERY SAME as the hairpin circuit and directly decented from. (check Karl Palsness hairping and relate it to a typical Tesla primary L1). I cannot emphasize more this key "detail".

@dragon,

In case we are saying the same thing..

I have extensive experience on modified primitive alternators (see Perepiteia of Heins) that the passive power-collection coil (in mechanic setups) pose far less load to prime mover (actually is seen as a load decrease) when shorted or under load of low impedance acting as near short, than the receiving coil when open circuit or under high impedance load.

If it applies to mechanical setups, i cannot see the reason why it should not at the solid-state setups.
In fact it is one of the few "unexplained" things i have encountered in my studies on this field.
From my conclusions is surelly related to the magnetic field created by the picking coil or interaction.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

parametric oscillations

Hi all

First post here but I saw the entry into parametric oscillations and I was wondering if you have looked at my thread on this, SPACE TIME ENERGY ABSORBION PUMP, STEAP for short. This is parametrics and it works to produce more energy out than in, but I am working at the moment to perfect this so as we can have a usable amount of energy.

I have had some success, but I need to refine it and build it up to full house appliance, it is not easy, but I hope I will get there.

I hope what I have posted on the STEAP thread will be of interest to all and give an insite into this very usable free energy

Mike

[baroutologos]

parametric oscillator ???

hello Micheal,

because i am a little slow in concepts, can you describe me with few words what is capable your parametric oscillator to do? (facts please)

Secondly i liked the pic of your very 1st post. http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...pump-steap.jpg
Seems a lot like Don's Smith receiving coil arrangement, with the difference the cap is across both windings not the 1st only.

Thanks

[bedinimotor]

don smith energy machine

has anyone actually gotten any power from this thing? did you figure out how to make it resonant? on your L1 & L2 with L1 being exactly 1/4 the length of L2, or can it be any fraction of L2 as long as it is dvisible by 4?

[boguslaw]

I think I can help even if I'm not EE.
First you told me if it's possible that Don dimmer IS CHANGING DC pulses frequency of neon transformer ?
Second : if I help , don't blame me for damaged circuit and electronic equipment around.I can probably help you fire that circuit with smoke using low power and parametric oscillation because IT IS EASY.In theory of course - I've never build such thing (in case some MIB is watching) - I'm pure theorist.

[boguslaw]

Ok,all you have to do is :
1. Measure capacitance and inductance of primary
2. Compute energy stored in capacitor
3. Compute resonant frequency, multiply with energy of pulse stored in capacitor - this will be the output power
4.Adjust output of neon transformer to be exact twice the resonant frequency of circuit. Because the output is mixed two positive signals it swings above zero and the best method would be to have that signal of scope and here adjust frequency by dimmer of any other way.
5. Make sure that spark gap is going to real ground AND back to the primary of neon transformer. Neon transformer must be exact copy of secondary of circuit - center tapped transformer not just solid state supply.
6. Make a GOOD secondary with a LARGE CAPS and protection devices.Turn it on and watch parametric resonance .
This is all THEORY (child on swing) but be very careful and be near the power switch to kill circuit immediately.That circuit may produce also dangerous radiations or EM short waves whatever.

[Altair]

4.Adjust output of neon transformer to be exact twice the resonant frequency of circuit. Because the output is mixed two positive signals it swings above zero and the best method would be to have that signal of scope and here adjust frequency by dimmer of any other way.

Boguslaw, could you please re-phrase that obscure sentence.