Donald L Smith

[cody]

wrtner,
I am still a bit confused on that part. My meter is showing that the plasma globe is running around 18khz. Should i be seeking 1/4 wave of that frequency? For anyone interested, the build details on this model are found on page 101 of the pdf from this link
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Smith.pdf

Smith suggests:

30' of wire
5"-7" diameter coil form
10-15 turns
parallel capacitor bank; 2 or more 5000V(assuming in series), smith uses 2 or more 34uf caps( 34uf@5000V, might be a typo)
series spark gap
series transformer to load

Smith says plasma globes usually have 400 milligauss of induction, and 1milligauss = 100V
So 400X100= 40,000V Seems high to me, maybe im figuring something wrong.

Any comments/suggestions

[Michael John Nunnerley]

multiple frequency

Here is a shot of my circuit running in multi frequency mode, the main frequency is the strongest

Mike

[boguslaw]

Can someone explaim one thing to me?

The way Bedini draws the schematics of the coils arrangement is peculiar. The one pair of coils are wound oppositively in respect to flux lines orientations in comparison to the other set of coils.

e.g. lets assume the flux lines travel from north to south, the first pair of coils (in that orientation) is wound counter-clockwise whereas the second pair of coils (again north to south orientation flux lines) are wound clock wise.


Does the polarity of voltage produced from a coil is depended on the ways is it wound? (clock or counter-clock wise)
Has anyone any experience on that simple issue?

Baroutologos

I don't know about Bedini but Don Smith clearly said in one of his presentations that in his secondary electrons flow from centre to each of outer ends of coil. The same said Tesla - you have max current zero voltage at the centre while max voltage zero current at the ends.

[baroutologos]

Man, you are confusing things.
Voltage nodes and current nodes are noticeble normally at RF frequency where stationary waves are been created in the coils.

The Kromrey converter and any of Bedini machines does not even closely work at RF frequencies. So speaking about voltage nodes and current nodes regarding their coils is out of context.

baroutologos

[sebosfato]

depending on the resistance value you can make mutual inductance change to be equal to what value do you know?

[baroutologos]

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I have personally asked the guy (Destine user in Rutube) about the specs oof his Tesla coil and the solid state ciruit schematics.
I have been waiting the schematics to be given.

He said that the Tesla coil consumes 36 watts at 30 volts from a stepdown transformer right from the mains, and clearly can light an 100watt lighbulb at (almost?) full brightness.

It seems like OU to me. Anyway, i ma standing by in replicating it exactly.

Baroutologos

[cody]

First results i wanted to share. Unfortunatly i dont have any great news but just wanted to get something up. Ive been playing with my plasma globe replication, got a little farther on it. Got my coil wound and have been messing with capacitors and spark gap for the circuit. First thing i noticed was the importance of properly insulating everything as best as possible, obviously due to the high voltage the globe is putting off, everything is very sensitive to what its touching. So here is the first major stumbling block im on right now: The circuit, so far at least, does not want to make a spark from one side of the coil to the other. Its very happy making a spark from one side of the coil to ground however. This is making me think that it very important to be grounded on the other side of the output transformer, but i havnt got that far yet. Second, i couldnt get a spark plug to work when sparking to ground, apparently the voltage is so high that its leaking to the other terminal without sparking, i had much better success with two brass bolts for a spark gap. So at this point i believe i need to get the output transformer hooked up and get it grounded on the other side, and rig up a decent spark gap, maybe tungsten. So ill have to pull my 12kv transformer out of a tesla coil and hook it up for the output transformer and see what happens.

Wondering how the other replications are comming

[dragon]

I have personally asked the guy (Destine user in Rutube) about the specs oof his Tesla coil and the solid state ciruit schematics.
I have been waiting the schematics to be given.

He said that the Tesla coil consumes 36 watts at 30 volts from a stepdown transformer right from the mains, and clearly can light an 100watt lighbulb at (almost?) full brightness.

It seems like OU to me. Anyway, i ma standing by in replicating it exactly.

Baroutologos

I don't believe it's overunity, at least from some of the experiments I've done with series LC circuits. It seems to me the current through the circuit remains the same but the resistance in line acts as a buffer where current and voltage overlap. So you might get a lower current at a higher voltage through the resistor performing the same task as the 30 watt input. The higher voltage runs through the resistance easier thus lighting the bulb to near brightness.

I could be all wrong on this but it seems to be how my heating circuit works. The output through the resistor can be calculated by adding the voltages across the L, across the C and across the R minus the voltage drop across R. Since the current running through the series circuit remains the same you can multiply the voltage difference and find its doing the work of a higher wattage because of the increase of voltage through the system.

The image below shows the massive voltage increase through L and C and where R is absorbing the spikes. With a 120 volt input, at resonance there is a p-p voltage spike of around 1700 volts. The current running through the system is 5.8 amps and the difference between the L and C through the resistor is 190 volts. The input is 120 volts at 5.878 amps or 705 watts but the resistor sees 190 volts at 5.878 amps or the equivilant to 1116 watts.

When setting up a series LCR the resistance will affect the frequency by dampening it so you need to incorporate this into the calculation for resonance.

It's simply a way of manipulating voltage within a circuit that can look like overunity but is easily explained and calculated. A very good recycling circuit to say the least.

I'm still learning about these resonant circuits so maybe some of the "resonance guru's" will chime in and clarify my findings....
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[boguslaw]

can you measure without resistor ?
could it be that it changes phase of wave ?

[baroutologos]

@Dragon,

yes, according a close resemblance replication of mine, this thing is far from overunity in any terms. With best adjustement i enjoy 40% BULB brightness for the input. No near unity even...

Secondly, you are wrong. Bulbs operate and heat their filaments by amperage. Voltage just "push" it there.
Again, i am not sure about the conditions met at high frequency oscillating currents, since it is very propable a lower amperage at those RF can produce far great work that larger amperage at lower frequencies...

In any case, the energy in vs Out matters at the end.

Baroutologos

[dragon]

@Dragon,

yes, according a close resemblance replication of mine, this thing is far from overunity in any terms. With best adjustement i enjoy 40% BULB brightness for the input. No near unity even...

Secondly, you are wrong. Bulbs operate and heat their filaments by amperage. Voltage just "push" it there.
Again, i am not sure about the conditions met at high frequency oscillating currents, since it is very propable a lower amperage at those RF can produce far great work that larger amperage at lower frequencies...

In any case, the energy in vs Out matters at the end.

Baroutologos

I guess I see voltage as both push and speed, the higher the voltage the faster the electrons are traveling or excited thus a higher voltage at a lower current will light the bulb equally as well.

The circuit I showed ran an 1100 watt heater at a higher temp on 600 watts through the series LC than it did simply plugging it in and using 1100 watts. You simply push lower current through the resistor at a higher speed.
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[baroutologos]

@dragon,

you cannot that easily claim that by raising voltage in your heater by resonance of series LC, you consume 600 watt of energy to achieve an equivalent heat of 1100 watts of less voltage. (220 volts)

I think somewhere you are wrong in your measurments.

Baroutologos

[dragon]

@dragon,

you cannot that easily claim that by raising voltage in your heater by resonance of series LC, you consume 600 watt of energy to achieve an equivalent heat of 1100 watts of less voltage. (220 volts)

I think somewhere you are wrong in your measurments.

Baroutologos

Actually, I can, the values presented in the circuit I posted does exactly that. The measurement of the heating element when plugged in to the grid normally reached a temp of 1025*F drawing 1100 watts and when in the LC circuit the element measured a temp of 1050*F and at times would reach 1100*F using 631 watts of energy. Input values were measured with the same watt meter ( Wattsup ) and temp values were measured with an Extech non contact hand held thermal meter.

I also tested the same cirucit using 2 - 500 watt halogen lights and it showed the same results, the lights were just over 1000 watts on the meter and when plugged into the LC was just under 600 watts. I don't have any way of measuring brightness, they appeared equally as bright either way and they are exteemly bright lights for shop lighting.

The inductor is a standard microwave transformer rated at 1500 watts 120v 60hz measured with an Extech LCR meter to have 49mh inductance, the capacitor was matched for the 60hz and is a 96uf motor run capacitor and the heater was an old nichrome wire wound space heater with a resistance of 10 ohms also measured with the Extech LCR.

I've used several different transformers with the cirucit ranging from 39mh to 65mh they all worked with varying degrees of input although the lower values tend to heat up after prolonged running.

Keep in mind when/if you try this circuit that the secondary HV winding on the transformer will produce 2-5kvolts and should be carefully insolated so there is no possible way of touching the output of this terminal. It can and will kill you.

They also work well with a 3055 for making HV output on the secondary using a basic oscillator. The central low turn coil makes a very nice "tickler" coil for feedback to the transistor base. Again... it will generate very high voltages and care should be taken. Your are responsible for your own safety.
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[baroutologos]

Ok, so,
in a down scaled setup, if i manage to put an suitable coil (transformer winding) able to handle some amperage (at resonance) and all in series i put an (say) incadescent lamp of 100 watts and finaly i close the circuit with a capacitor bank (i have already two motor start cap-banks) and all system driven by mains, i can make it to light same brightness at lower input? say watts 60 watts?

Too much Hector Perez's teachings there unable to be replicated by anyone i have met.

Baroutologos

[dragon]

Ok, so,
in a down scaled setup, if i manage to put an suitable coil (transformer winding) able to handle some amperage (at resonance) and all in series i put an (say) incadescent lamp of 100 watts and finaly i close the circuit with a capacitor bank (i have already two motor start cap-banks) and all system driven by mains, i can make it to light same brightness at lower input? say watts 60 watts?

Too much Hector Perez's teachings there unable to be replicated by anyone i have met.

Baroutologos

As long as the components are matched properly and set to resonate at line frequencies it should do just fine.

I ran some tests on low wattage bulbs and they tend to dampen the oscillation considerably, the smallest I could get to operate properly was a 200 watt ( 72 ohm ) which ran at 125 watts but not quite full light. Using high ohm bulbs will significantly diminish the effect. I didn't change the original circuit during this test other than alter the resistance.
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