Donald L Smith

[baroutologos]

I saw what i saw. He is clearly stating at the videos that you correct the frequency in order transformer to work by applying the resistor.
( try a standard iron transformer to work at 30Khz. losses too large i can say)

We should not be that unscertain of what we see and hear nowadays.

Baroutologos

[dragon]

I saw what i saw. He is clearly stating at the videos that you correct the frequency in order transformer to work by applying the resistor.
( try a standard iron transformer to work at 30Khz. losses too large i can say)

We should not be that unscertain of what we see and hear nowadays.

Baroutologos

My take on it would be to use a capacitor and match the output transformer inductance to the cap for 60hz.

You simply reverse the process from the beginning and match the resonance through the system....

Match the cap based on the NST, find L2's self resonance, design L1 coil inductance to resonate with L2 based on the NST cap value. Reverse the process by matching the cap to L2 resonance then design a step down transformer( L3/L4 ) where L3 is resonant at 60 hz based on L2 capacitance.

Sounds easier than it is....
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[h2ocommuter]

eeks

I saw what i saw. He is clearly stating at the videos that you correct the frequency in order transformer to work by applying the resistor.
( try a standard iron transformer to work at 30Khz. losses too large i can say)

We should not be that unscertain of what we see and hear nowadays.

Baroutologos

Foot in the mouth again.
I am a rooke, I should keep my mouth shut when it comes to this science.




No offence intended, Baroutologos
h2ocommuter

[h2ocommuter]

Little help

My take on it would be to use a capacitor and match the output transformer inductance to the cap for 60hz.

You simply reverse the process from the beginning and match the resonance through the system....

Match the cap based on the NST, find L2's self resonance, design L1 coil inductance to resonate with L2 based on the NST cap value. Reverse the process by matching the cap to L2 resonance then design a step down transformer( L3/L4 ) where L3 is resonant at 60 hz based on L2 capacitance.

Sounds easier than it is....

Hi Dragon,
I like the cenerio you have stated, seems practical.

I am trying to figure out the values for my Caps. Anyway, the isolation transformer input side is .113 H takes a 75 ohm resistor and is scedueled for a cap farad value of about .000016 to be in resonance.
I believe the resonance for my globe and 14 turnes of my L-2 is arround 28K cps . It is 30' long. I built a calculator to figure out Dons formula's "Attachment", and I am wondering about the joules content I should concern myself with. could you take a look and see if it helps you?
sorry the sight won't allow excell downloads.
OK, so I was figuring I needed to concider the joule content of the caps as a main concern. what are your thought related to this?

Thanks
h2ocommuter

[dragon]

Hi Dragon,
I like the cenerio you have stated, seems practical.

I am trying to figure out the values for my Caps. Anyway, the isolation transformer input side is .113 H takes a 75 ohm resistor and is scedueled for a cap farad value of about .000016 to be in resonance.
I believe the resonance for my globe and 14 turnes of my L-2 is arround 28K cps . It is 30' long. I built a calculator to figure out Dons formula's "Attachment", and I am wondering about the joules content I should concern myself with. could you take a look and see if it helps you?
sorry the sight won't allow excell downloads.
OK, so I was figuring I needed to concider the joule content of the caps as a main concern. what are your thought related to this?

Thanks
h2ocommuter

I've spent the last 8 months in the study of resonance so I'm probably not the best one to ask on the subject. There are some here that have many years of experience in this area. I'm still learning as you are.

I'm not real familiar with Dons globe device but I've put alot of study in his table top device. It would seem to me since the globe is already in resonance, you would simply match the topper coil and cap to match a resonance for the secondary system. I really haven't read anything on the globe device to actually understand what his intentions were for it.
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[baroutologos]

One interesting thing a notice regarding Kapanadze demonstartion. (the geo-energy video)

see... YouTube - INVENTOR3's Channel
The guy stresses again and again that the ground copper pipe has to pass through the center of the Tesla coil.

Kapanadze in his videos does excactly the same. Coincidence?

Baroutologos

[byjoveoldchap]

Don Smith - Suitcase Demonstration at 1996 Tesla Symposium

I've spent the last 8 months in the study of resonance so I'm probably not the best one to ask on the subject. There are some here that have many years of experience in this area. I'm still learning as you are.

We can all learn, if we open our ears and minds to new, or different information.

Don Smith has exposed some very clear facts that do not fit in, or agree with mainstream science. Tesla was undoubtably the greatest electrical genius who tried to help mankind and Don Smith has confirmed that he studied all of Tesla's ideas, along with Maxwell, D'Arsonval and others.

It is easy to be sceptical and ask for proof, but it is much harder, yet more rewarding, to experiment and listen to wisdom from these great teachers and apply their ideas. I believe those of us who follow their guidelines will achieve results, which others will say are impossible.

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Proof?

You may find what you are searching for in the following video's.

The great news is that Don Smith does demonstrate his suitcase model, beginning near the end of part 12 and it works beautifully.

There is a good deal more discussion/questions and he expands on overseas developments of his devices and solid state versions, etc.

Possibly the best part is the last section, 19, where the 10 x 40watt light bulbs are purchased and replaced by a guy in the audience, with 100watt bulbs. = 1kw.

The guy from the audience summarises that the 12v battery in the suitcase, would need to supply 83amps, to run the bulbs for over the 3 minutes tested and the actual 6amp battery could not possibly do this. (Please also note how long the 400watt array of bulbs were operating, prior to this last test.)

I found some more valuable info in his discussion and he explains his motives for World use, it is well worth listening to, ByJove!


Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 12

[baroutologos]

I saw the series...
I do not understand Don's motivation really. he would go to Tesla symposium to tell everyone that he possess a OU device, demonstarte its abilities that can power everything. And Suggests a book issued on this one..

Yet, he firmly resists to demonstarte key points (see kapanadze), to let people get a grasp of it give and knowledge how to relicate themselves..

Its really funny.

plus, at part when asked for commerciality of the products, he says that in the U.S. his devices are not sold, but to ther places in the world. Yet he predicts Japan will start fabrication at 6-12 months from there. (1996)

Baroutolgos

[byjoveoldchap]

I saw the series...
I do not understand Don's motivation really. he would go to Tesla symposium to tell everyone that he possess a OU device, demonstarte its abilities that can power everything. And Suggests a book issued on this one..

Yet, he firmly resists to demonstarte key points (see kapanadze), to let people get a grasp of it give and knowledge how to relicate themselves..

Its really funny.

plus, at part when asked for commerciality of the products, he says that in the U.S. his devices are not sold, but to ther places in the world. Yet he predicts Japan will start fabrication at 6-12 months from there. (1996)

I can understand your concerns and doubts Baroutolgos, everyone who has ever found a way to extract or tap into a 'secret' source of extra energy, has never left clear instructions explaining exactly how to do it.

What they have left is usually a mystery to most people, even experienced and highly trained people in their field. It seems that only a few are able to recognise clues as to how it might work. Unfortunately, many of these pioneers left no clues at all, or suffered a premature death because the information threatened established energy suppliers.

Don obviously wanted to illustrate the fact that it is truly possible to obtain more energy, using certain techniques that he discovered or re-discovered, which are not commonly known or taught. His purpose was to try to educate us about these 'hidden' techniques and show us a working system utilising his devices.

He knew it was pointless trying to patent or distribute working devices in the USA and eventually had to go elsewhere to ensure his systems would get to the people and his ideas and possibly his life, would be protected.

He did not want people to buy devices from him, instead he tried to encourage people to study and build their own devices at small costs, using information on his website, seminars, video's and his book.

Because of his ongoing business deals and contracts, he was limited on exactly what he could say and release to the public. These are the reasons that some information may be missing, or perhaps misleading. I believe he has indicated areas we need to research and study, to fully understand the operation and successfully build a working unit.

Okay, it may not be as easy as we would like it to be, but at least he has pointed us in the right direction and explained the critical issues of operation that no one has ever explained so clearly before.

Don Smith has tried his best to educate us about the true actions of electricity and magnetism and told us secrets that have taken him years of extensive studying to understand.

Like Tesla, I am very grateful for what he has taught and disclosed to us all.

baroutologos, I truly hope we can reproduce his work and then we can help others to do the same.

[baroutologos]

Amen my friend!

Baroutologos

[dragon]

We can all learn, if we open our ears and minds to new, or different information.


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I found some more valuable info in his discussion and he explains his motives for World use, it is well worth listening to, ByJove!


Donald L. Smith 1996 Tesla Symposium Part 12

Thanks for posting the link to those ByJove, I hadn't seem them. Is this something that is on the DVD's that are for sale?

After watching them I remembered a comment he made in another video, " some of the things are there because we expect to see them " which was a good clue. As sherlock holmes would say remove everything that doesn't make sense and what is left is the truth. I believe that was confirmed in video 2 of that series. Another piece of the puzzel...

I decided to do some quick and simple experiments with stuff I had from other experiments... really quick and dirty. The 3" coil I have has 60 turns which is more than he used in his, I made an outer slider coil instead of an inner one. Set it up to resonate and used a cheapie NST running at 2500 volts. The draw on the battery was .3 amps. About 4 watts total input. I don't have the means to measure the actual output of the larger coil but I can measure AC amperage. A shorted reading on the L2 coil was fluctuating at 1.5 to 1.9 amps which I found ineresting. The L2 coil I'm using was wound with 12awg wire and the L1 is using a multi stranded 14awg cable.

I don't have any HV caps to connect as an output storage yet but I'm looking around.

Looks like there may be some potential, just a matter of putting all the clues in the right place...
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[boguslaw]

and the secret is ..... ? DC capacitor discharge and timing of charging it, harmonic perfection

[baroutologos]

one reason because i enjoy Don Smith's theories, is that the captured energy comes out of the intensely electrified environment we live. (earth have some 300.000 volts - potential, but it varies greatly.

Resonance, amplifications, high voltage etc all are meant to stimulate somehow the extraction of the energy already around us. In how we discharge a cap, only makes sense in the mechanic details setup of the device, and IMo its not of essence.

Baroutologos

[dragon]

overunity or using what is already there....

one reason because i enjoy Don Smith's theories, is that the captured energy comes out of the intensely electrified environment we live. (earth have some 300.000 volts - potential, but it varies greatly.

Resonance, amplifications, high voltage etc all are meant to stimulate somehow the extraction of the energy already around us. In how we discharge a cap, only makes sense in the mechanic details setup of the device, and IMo its not of essence.

Baroutologos

Is it overunity? When you think of it most systems are closed, for instance a transformer - your not exchanging electrons from the primary to the secondary your simply exciting existing electrons. The secondary is a closed loop with the load so the electrons simply do their thing and return.

I'm just speculating but if that is acually true then all we need is a large inductor and a way to excite the electrons....

Our conventional way of viewing electricity leads us to believe that overunity requires us to draw from external sources, also that electricity is "used up" and needs to be replenished. I'm leaning toward the other possibilities....
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[ABCStore]

The secondary is a closed loop with the load so the electrons simply do their thing and return.

Correction - electrons never go anywhere...

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