Donald L Smith

[byjoveoldchap]

Thanks for posting the link to those ByJove, I hadn't seem them. Is this something that is on the DVD's that are for sale?

Sorry dragon, I don't know what exactly is included on the DVD's, but there is a link for more info which lists the those available at NuEnergy.

I decided to do some quick and simple experiments with stuff I had from other experiments... really quick and dirty.

Nothing better than experimenting yourself, thats' the best way to learn!

I don't have any HV caps to connect as an output storage yet but I'm looking around.

I often wonder how D'Arsonval, Tesla and other great pioneers managed to conduct so many different experiments without ready-made items... it would seem they all used Leyden jars as capacitors, so why can't we do the same? I'm a great believer in getting back to basics.

[boguslaw]

I have a strange idea which may be very important if I really hit the point.

What if Leyden jar IS DC capacitor like electrolytic ones ?

[baroutologos]

for those trying to measure output of their Smith resonators of high voltage, this circuit is a nice one for stepping down and eliminating the frequency problems

See picture below also. yet the ground connection is to be put somehwere.

comes from Quest for zero point energy ... - Google Libri

wings posted that.

EDIT:

Actually as the paper claims, this type of circuit with the appropriate values (?) can help us deal with the determination of efficiency of almost all types of voltage spike / radiant technology devices. Maybe it is a SSG or a Tesla coil or a Don Smith device or anything that works on high voltage spikes.

They have been numerous time reapeated by Bedini et all, that all the trick is to produce the spike, temporarily capture it in a cap (or series) and discharge them. It is strongly supported that the conversion is made by caps.

They have been also numerous conversations regarding charging caps in series and discharging in parallel.

It satisfies also the condition of Eric Dollard's longitudinal and self strengthening wave that propagates across capacitance.

Personally i like circuit's simplicity and spike harnessing capability.

baroutologos

[seth]

Hi guys!

No OU for me to report, but i watched the russian vid that someone left (boguslaw or baroutologos - cheers whoever it was âÅÓÅÄÁ Ó ËÁÎÄÉÄÁÔÏÍ ÔÅÈÎÉÞÅÓËÉÈ ÎÁÕË á.á.ëÏÎÄÒÁÛÏ×ÙÍ Ï ÔÒÁÎÓÆÏÒÍÁÔÏÒÅ ôÅÓÌÁ :: ÷ÉÄÅÏ ÎÁ RuTube) and was inspired to try something similar with my tesla coil - namely connect one of the ends of my secondary to a 40 W light bulb, with the other terminal of the bulb connected to a wire hanging freely in the air. I got results which impressed me

The guy on the vid (for those who cant understand a word hes saying!) is using a SSTC with a transistor, powered by 30V 1.2A DC, and by doing the above seems to be able to light his 100W bulb to full brightness - I agree it may not be OU, but it does sound like OU, no? Anyhow, I have never been able to light that 40W bulb (tungsten) with my tesla coil (which isnt solid state - its spark gap and capacitor, using lots of power no doubt, and extremely noisy, and irritating for my wife!) and lord knows I have tried many different things. CFLs have obviously always been easy, but the tungsten filaments ive never had any success with.....until today!!!! The bulb came on, not at full brightness, but at half brightness at least -

I decided to try without the second terminal of the bulb connected to a wire hanging freely in the air - this was because the guy in the video explained that this wire was very important (even though it just hangs there like a useless extra bit!!!???). He uses the analogy of a kite and explains that a kite needs a tail to provide stable flight - and says this wire is necessary to provide stability for the open system with the ether (bare in mind my russian is intermediate level at best, so perhaps a little is lost in translation!). Anyway, when i tried without what i thought would be a useless wire, the bulb DIDNT come on whatsoever, but just arced electricity inside the glass. That guy on the video clearly knows what hes talking about, it seems to me.

Anymore Russian vids??? Inspiring stuff!!! Hope someone else tries it with their coil......

If anyone wants to try, dont hesitate to ask me any questions - its real easy to do

[boguslaw]

Can you show us picture of your Tesla coil with bulb ?

[baroutologos]

See my thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...il-ground.html

This guy is named Destine. I have been communicating with him. He provided the specs for my SSTC. I have been able to light also incadescent lamps etc.

I installed an analog current meter via chokes for better accuracy. My tesla coil with the bulb and optimum adjustment outputs as far as 50% in terms of bulb brightness.

I told destine how he managed to light a 100 watt bulb with an 35 watt input. He suggested to try different winding.
I made yesterday another secondary winding of ... 0.3mm wire at 600 mm lentgh! (it took me 3 days to wind - First secondary is from 0.5mm wire at 580mm length) Although more powerful, it consumes a lot more input.
My input with the more turns secondary is 5-6 amps at 25 volts. I can fully light an 75 watt lamp (incadescence)

I communicated with him and kindly ask him to privide some proof that actually he is using 30 watts for lighting a 100 watt bulb fully. He did not.

Note that measuring current with DMM is just USELESS. The setup can upset a DMM at the input of the 220v transformer.! RF can easily pass capacitors, chokes (ferrites 8 mH), (2) and the transformer iron!!!

Actually my DMM goes crazy in the vicinity of this coil.
It is not overunity in that way for sure.

...
As for the wire in order to light the lamp... just try using ground. A good grounding is by FAR the best way for maximum efficiency.

Baroutologos

[boguslaw]

I thought about what Don said about using resistor in output transformer. What if he simple matched transformer to the oil caps bank to get resonant circuit of 60Hz and then resistor is used ONLY to step down voltage using resistor divider because the original 8kV is too high for transformer or maybe FET's used to oscillate it ?

[seth]

Can you show us picture of your Tesla coil with bulb ?

Like all my videos its terrible quality - i have to turn the lights off just so you can see the bulb is certainly lighting. And the spark gap is very very noisy.

YouTube - MrFlathunter's Channel

So, why do you suppose the wire which is attached to nothing except the output (?) terminal of the bulb is so necessary?? As long as the wire is there it works....why wouldnt it work without the wire?

Thanks for the link to the other thread - i read it with great interest and saw that this topic was discussed, but i still fail to understand why the hanging wire is necessary- and i feel like the only way i will start to understand why is if i keep playing with it over the weekend when i have some free time. I'll try touching the end of the wire to various conductors and insulators around my flat, and hope for some more interesting results. I'll also try connecting it to the top of my secondary (at the moment its at the bottom), whereas ill try making another ''ground'' at the bottom...maybe just use a huge chunk of metal, like the top capacitor toroid.....who knows???

My motto is try everything, and then ye shall understand

Edit: I have a HV doorknob capacitor that i bought for pennies in one of the local markets ages ago, and have yet to put to good use - any suggestions for how i make it handy?? i remember one of destines vids showing a cap in a metal cup...maybe ill try the same. all suggestions welcome

[baroutologos]

I thought about what Don said about using resistor in output transformer. What if he simple matched transformer to the oil caps bank to get resonant circuit of 60Hz and then resistor is used ONLY to step down voltage using resistor divider because the original 8kV is too high for transformer or maybe FET's used to oscillate it ?

There is no need man at trying deciphering things all the time. The man was very specific about the resistor and suggested the charts fir defining it.

Two scenarios for me. Either he does not know wtf he is saying, or trying to mislead replicators. There is a third remote possibility of a resistor to correct the frequency.
If that's is the case, books should be re-written.

....
@ Seth,
the grounded wire its necessary for perfomance. It surely does not work in a conventional way of closed circuit. I can speculate that the ground provides an infinite capacitance and hence the oscillating current works at maximum.

I have seen also elsewhere, that a vaccum cap(500pf 10Kv ?) connected to ground can act as a STEPDOWN transformer. By the way the caps being handy to me did not make the trick.

Baroutologos

ps: by the way, you can use the current multiplier circuit and find-out performance, in a simple manner.

[baroutologos]

I was pondering on Tesla sayings, Eric Dollard experiments and Don Smith sayings...

I can clearly see, that almost each one hold his views about what the Great man has said. But a striking difference between Tesla's saying - Eric Dollard teachings and Don Smith theories is the contrast between Electrostatic field usefulness to magnetic field.

Tesla patents are all skewed towards creation of enormous electrostatic fields. Eric Dollard says that Tesla technology and longitudinal wave ia electrostatic or dielectric based. He pointed that "when great magnetic fields are involved you are losing ground" (see newer video part 4 i think)

On the contrary Don Smith, says the electrical component of electricity is always a loss. Go for the magnetic component. This is free energy!

NOT even in theory we have agreement here.. not to speak in practice.


Baroutologos

[boguslaw]

Maybe electricity is composed of two dielectric longitudinal waves flowing in opposite direction.One is left hand spiral and one is right hand spiral. When each of these flow separate it has electrostatic - like properties, but when they both meet they produce magnetic field and flow together but with friction related to the fact that they fill the same space and curl into each other without changing direction.

Well it's how Ed Leedscalnin described it (with my little speculations added)

[dragon]

I thought about what Don said about using resistor in output transformer. What if he simple matched transformer to the oil caps bank to get resonant circuit of 60Hz and then resistor is used ONLY to step down voltage using resistor divider because the original 8kV is too high for transformer or maybe FET's used to oscillate it ?

I was doing some experiments with some caps today trying to alter capacitance or add inductance to alter the resonant frequency. It started because I dont have fractional caps and even 1/10th of a pf can be 100khz off resonance. I was shooting for 8.8mHz and the cap needed was 33.9pf to work with the coil.

Long story short... The resistor placed across the output transformer alters the inductance thus changing the frequency ( reactance / impedance ).

As a test I used a MOT that had a primary winding inductance of 59mh and with a 1.5k ohm resistor across it it measured at 50mh.

I'm not sure how to calculate this yet but using the chart does give you a ball park figure of which resistor to use at a given frequency.

I haven't tested it in a live circuit yet, only going by my LCR meter at this point. It also changes capacitance values which brought me to the test initially....
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[baroutologos]

Well Done Dragon. I guess we have some clue then..
Anyway, it must be more investigated the concept.

I was wondering, how you can have a primary L1 coil oscillating at 30Khz and a secondary L2 coil / transformer corrected at 50 Hz? Do not know...

Baroutologos

[h2ocommuter]

Not a mile stone yet, but for me a nice stride tward my build.

I got my clampmeter in and tested the plasma globe. it confirmed the same frequencies that my other meter did and the amperage without loading it was over 100 amperes. OMG that sound soo good!

I can keep the freq at 50 k "full tilt boogie", on my L-2 so this is going to be more than the 12,800 KVA my output transformer can handlle.
I can bring it down with the pots on the plasma globe.

I am building the mathmatical equasions I want to see in my replication journal so I am just moving a little slow.

Don said the frequencies will take care of themselves when I put the resistor into the path of the IT, so I am not going to worry about it.

I am going to build a two plug spark gap to relieve voltages on both sides of L-2 connected to ground for more neg. This combined with the resistor should be enough of an orifice to limit the input to the IT.

[bobo36us]

h20........over 100 amps???

sounds to me like a working Don Smith device

I hope you will share a video with us soon