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Again this is just my clamp meter excitment. I have yet to wire up my IT,buy and install the varacte,r four groundings. and a circuit breaker box. this is a mile away. and I am walking.
in the hunt.
in the hunt.
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Block wall L-2 Amperes side!
Thanks Braden,
The copy I had of this video was so grainy that is was almost unbarable to watch, I had that copy a couple of weeks befor you posted this.
Today looking for things I may have missed I visited your link. YouTube - free energy geo 3- Free Energy? Earth Battery? Part 3 of 7
23 seconds of part three it clearly shows the L-1 almost completely over one side of L-2, confirming what DS had said about getting amps from one side of a L-2
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sorry I lost my link?
I have two videos, I will make a third about the resonant effects soon.Originally posted by h2ocommuter View Post
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I was re-viewing the metakafe video (most recent) of Don smith and looking again the experiment of a small Tesla coil sparking to the other side of a custom, two plate capacitor. (and of course the theories that accompany it...)
I re-looked the Don Smith pdf, with his suggested resonance methods, and again i saw the patent with the "Tube dipole" and the rough, big, ultra-low capacity (few picofarads i could say) two plates metal capacitor for "collecting" magnetic flux or whatever.
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I should mention, that the low picofarad cap, have the unexplained by me yet property of stepping down tesla coil's Hv from the HV tip, enough to light a bulb, provided the other plate of the cap is grounded. (for a link browse back this topic. Its a german site)
Its propably nothing special, but i noticed he utilizes two different metals as the cap plates. One alluminum and the other copper. Does it makes any difference?
I have seen again the same motivo of proffesor Brown, if i am no mistaken that claims he had made a device, again from metal plates of different composition.
Any ideas?
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I re-reading Don's Smith pdf circulating. pheww.. the man introduces new science on his own. (e.g. magnetism is not created by charges in motion as we know, but instead electrons spinning clockwise etc etc)
By the way, assuming that at Tesla's conference and demonstration of his suitcase device is real, i mean he had not any hidden super-caps in the suitcase enough for powering the 2 KW load for 3 min or so, then he actually has something worth of investigating.
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the only patent i am aware of awarded to him is the NL 02000035a, at 2004. (even though i cannot find it on the patent office)
This bizzare setup consists of creating a dipole, harvesting the magnetic radiating component of electricity and storing it.
Dipoles could be plasma tubes, coils and metals as he said. The interesting thing is the collector. As a collectors he uses an improvised, primitive capacitor, placed perpedincular to the plane of the dipole. (the cap is composed of different elements too)
This is what i call think out of the BOX. The cap is not arranged as an electrical component of the circuit. it is supposed to intercept energy from outside the dipole. (something similar to Pavel Imris cap tube or even EV Gray tube that intercept the plasma formated)
This is looking bizzare. In fact none of his other machines and explanations seem to work on the same principle (at leat to me)
And its the only that got a patent of course.
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We should note also, that the dipole is NOT a static one as permanent magnets are. The dipole is vibrating, perhaps constantly changing its polarity. A plethora of question comes to my mind. And if vibrating at what frequency? The safer bet is to go at the natural frequency of the particular dipole.
Again, the intercepting cap, (quite logicaly) is not producing any DC current as the patent imply, but rather an oscillating one at RF ranges.
Rectifiction etc are a must then...
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My understanding of the "dipole" patent (application) is that there is a stable magnetic field between N-S, not a vibrating one. Then, an instability is introduced through the use of the coil on the South end of the dipole which causes the excitement of electrons, or whatever.
This causes the flctuations in the magnetic flux between N-S creating a gradient/difference between the area above and below the capacitor plates, which are "conveniently" placed at the Bloch wall according to the drawing.
Or perhaps, because the plates are positioned in the middle of the dipole where the Bloch wall is, when not excited. Upon excitation the Bloch wall moves, thus causing the flux gradient.
Either way, the outcome might be the same as the dielectric between the plates gets energized and plates conduct that charge to the rest of the circuit.
About the suitcase, Don was always too vague regarding it. Sometimes he would say that suitcase is a scaled down version of that wood board circuit he always showed. Other times he would say the wood board circuit is the scaled down version of the suitcase.
Not sure where he would've gotten supercaps 15 years ago big enough to pull a con like the suitcase. So maybe suitcase might had SLA batteries and a 12-to-110v inverter instead, who knows?Are the ravings of a lunatic signs of a genius?Comment
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Nice view. Stable dipole with the resonanting coil dropping it off ballance...
What about the plasma tube? can formulate a steady dipole?
In any case, is it possible the magnetic field or waves (according Don smith for frequency above 20Khz) to charge directly a capacitor? Has anyone charged a capacitor with magnetism?
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With regards to the plasma tube, my guess would be that since there is a plasma path established then there must exist a steady dipole between the two ends. Someone correct me in this, please?
About charging a capacitor with magnetism...I wouldn't say we are charging with magnetism alone, else we could just stick a Neo magnet onto any capacitor and voila, electric charge.
According to DS, the electrons spin and half the spin is magnetic and the other half is electric (electrostatic?) so during the later the dielectric of the capacitor gets charged and the plates can carry charge off.
Again, a long shot in interpretation but that's just my view.
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plasma ball and alternator stator
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The way I see it, power in and power out difference that DS was asking people to calculate on his neon transformer(s) comes from the pulsed nature of the transformer itself.
As they clock at 20-35kHz they are not continous wave but pulsed thus different computation must apply taking into concern duty cycle of the pulse, etc.
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Yes sir!Originally posted by baroutologos View Post
I have done other studies where it is commonly known that aluminum carries it's own ground. Where one hot wire is all that is needed to have a completed circuit.
I believe Tesla used this in some of his experiments and maybe his pierce arrow too.
All speculation.
I am going to use an alluminum grounding block for my first block wall on my l-2. I will let you know what I find.
I had a complete meltdown with my computor. and I just redeemed it from total reformating the HD. four days in the dark. whew!Comment
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I had some darft tests with my solid state TC, in order to confirm the unexplained to me saying of Don Smith.
He says that the physical possition of the L1 (typical resonant transformer) in respect to L2 alters its properties. He claims that if L1 is located at the bottom or far right (left and right is relative, i interpret it as near the grounded end of the L2) the resonator is inclined towards voltage.
If the L1 moved towards the other end, voltage drops and the resonator inclines towards the current.
I made a solid state Tesla coil with a movable L1. As a reference point L2 (hV coil) is grounded one end. By moving the L1 up and down, the coil indeed alters its behaviour but i perceive it more in the sense of de-tuning rather than voltage buildup. (see photos)
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By the way, what options available we have in order to measure oscillating current at 500Khz frequencies?
Note that the grounded lamp's brightness used as a meter does not showed me any special current. In fact diminished results were obtained.
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On the other hand, Don says repeatedly that a normal tesla coil has its amperage surpressed and emphasis is given at voltage buildup. How is that?
at ground there is a voltage antinode or a current node (in stationary wave setup)
So we have maximum amperage. in the intermediate (from bottom to top) meanwhile, there is voltage as well as amperage. I do not get his claims really.
Anyone with a better comprehension that me?
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Ok, i studied closely the tesla patent 336.961 upon which the Don Smith setup lies. (board machine)
Actually, from my first understanding, this is all about regulating the current flow at electromagnet windings. In any case it has to do with regulation.
From my experiements desrcibed above, It was evident to me that with the moveable L1 over the L2 balances alter dramatically.
Not to forget the variac at the NST side. So, too many adjustments around.
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it is evident also that he is uses air core tesla coils, of few windings (for greater amperage i guess) spaced apart, the way Eric Dollard has suggested for the correct method at making resonant transformers.
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