Donald L Smith

[baroutologos]

IMO things are not so simple.

I do not know why he suggests this building setup. In any case, by following what he says at video, no working device can be produced. This is what i judje.

Baroutologos

[h2ocommuter]

That is where I heard that.

it is evident also that he is uses air core tesla coils, of few windings (for greater amperage i guess) spaced apart, the way Eric Dollard has suggested for the correct method at making resonant transformers.

Baroutologos

Thanks Baroutologos,
The drawing that don put on 4 and 5 video is near identical to the Radio freq one shown on his web site that has three recievers and one transmiter.
he also stated somewhere that just one of these units could power you home easily.

I am glad you brought up this thing Eric Dollard had said, as this was one of the confirmiong thoughts that the Smith devices could work.

Somebody in the RF field could tell us about carrier waves and how they are used in Radio freq.... applications.

I've got lots of work to do in the shop before I can confirm anything yet.

contribute, be a part.

[baroutologos]

I have not read the full work of Eric Dollard concerning the resonant transformers, only the part that a member of this forum posted.

But i have read Eric Dollard's notes and interview (some decade or more old). The man, at least then, was dismisive of any explicit overunity-free energy machine.

Anyway, we are together in this strungle.

Baroutologos

[boguslaw]

split the positive or split the negative !

When you have still mixed negative and positive you have ordinary magnetic field undulating around coil and supported by Lenz law rules.
Free from Lenz law require something curious which is not what Don Smith was able to tell you... Edison etheric force

[Altair]

Hi Boguslaw,
you sound like you know the solution.
Could you please elaborate further.

Splitting the positive has been associated with Gray's work, but I never really understood what he meant.

[bobo36us]

Yahoo group on Radiant Energy

Just wanted to post this link to some of you that might
not have seen it before: radiant_energy : Radiant Energy Power Generation

Lots of good work going on there especially by a gentleman called Bruce,
who goes by the username nuenergy_scientist.

He's been working on Smith devices for a while, and seems to have a
really good grasp of the concepts and possibly even a successful replication.

His research dates back many years and he willingly shares of his time and
knowledge. I am sure that he could answer many questions you guys have.

Bobo

[boguslaw]

A lot of thinking ,actually 3 years of investigating free energy problems took me to the point where I'm quite sure both Ed Leedscalnin and Tom Bearden are right. Edwin Gray too.
This all touches the problem : what electricity really is ?
Electricity is energy flow due to voltage between two points, when voltage is difference of two potentials.This is known, however potential is not abstract definition IMHO - it is real observable electromagnetic-like flow.
Positive and negative magnetic current as Ed Leedscalnin described.
Around conductor is one part ,inside conductor second. There are two kinds of those - and to produce electricity in closed circuit you have to maintain production and replenish both swirling against each other in conductor.
How fast it is done it's quite no important,but it has to be done to power load continuously.
Like Tom Bearden said - electric dipole produce continuous flow of energy. The point is that it looks like EM radiation, but each part of dipole produce mirror kind of that radiation.So, positive produce positive potential, negative - negative. They flow with a speed of light against each other, producing magnetic field around conductor and electric field inside (which converts into current if conductor has free electrons).Voltage iz non-zero for a moment,but then it all balance and electricity flow diminish. You have to crank then generator shaft to make another dipole and another flow of electricity.

Now take one potential and split releasing part of it as scalar wave.If I'm correct the balance will be disturbed without power source depleting.Scalar waves produced for free.

[Altair]

Thanks boguslaw,
indeed I have read many times at various places about the counter-spiraling of pos & neg currents.
If we just had instruments to measure both types of currents, everything would become clear, I'm sure.

As I understand it, there has to be some kind of "breaker" in the circuit, usually a spark gap, that produces extremely rapid changes in the flow of current.
Is this what they refer to as "splitting the positive" ? I don't have any idea, and still don't grasp the concept of how to create an imbalance in the two spiraling flows.

But this is not the only thing we have to worry about, the transfer of energy in Smith's devices requires very precisely tuned components. This is not easy at all, as just a small change in ambient temperature will detune a resonating circuit. I think the best way to keep one of those circuits alive would be to implement an active control of the circuit, that would automatically compensate for the detuning. Not an easy task.

altair

[boguslaw]

Resonance is a way to make Don Smith device work, but there is probably one more requirement.
You can't make it work with normal induction, you have to produce radiant electricity.The key element in Don Smith device is primary capacitor, spark gap device and orientation of both against neon transformer.
Follow Edison experiment.If you are able to produce etheric force you are able to make Smith device work.

[boguslaw]

If Ed Leedscalnin was right then for each coil in circuit placement is important.
Because each potential flow against each other at every REAL close of circuit or open , there is a slight moment (a fraction of microsecond probably) n when only one potential is saturating coil.Split it in that moment opening circuit again and released magnetic field would be different that induction one.
Etheric force.Once again , it is only a theory but as I know Tesla many times stated that his transmitter must be considered with concordance with Earth properties.Etheric force is only possible as strange magnetic waves due to existence of magnetosphere. EMP

[sebosfato]

For you to find over unity is very difficult, 1, because you don't understand where the energy can come from, and 2, you do not even understand the losses you have to override to be able to extract energy from somewhere... happy new year and good luck

[bobo36us]

Disturb Ambient and free some Electrons

Disturb ambient and free some electrons.

Seems to be the main theme behind many free
energy systems. Most of them are low power,
usually involving a spinning wheel with magnets
that usually barely recover enough energy to
self run.

Takes a while to understand and agree with based
on conventional teachings, but I get it now.
Create a dipole, disturb ambient, get some free energy.

We are all swimming in a sea of energy!!!!!!

Now, apparently to get substantial current, we need to
separate the electrons into stronger and weaker electrons.
(or whatever you choose to call them.....right and left,
positive and negative, up or down, etc)

How to do this??????????

The answer to that is probably what most successful free energy
inventors have figured out, and what I hope to find.

In the meantime, here is some info that might give some of you
some insight: Electron split into 2 new quantum particles : science

As with all open forums, there are different ideas, and difference
of opinions there, but hopefully it will get you to thinking.

Bobo

[sebosfato]

believe me free energy does exist but what you just talked about is 100% non related to the solution! study a lot and you may find.

Make the right questions to find the right answers, is very easy to say we navigate in a sea of energy but is very much superficial to just repeat this without really understanding where it comes from.

You can't create a dipole, a dipole exists already and you can use its force to create or to use energy witch was not original from your electrical source.

And it don't have nothing to do with disturbing energy, low mass electrons and nothing about it...

[ABCStore]

sebosfato,

do you have all the answers? Do you know for sure how to make these devices? If yes, then please do tell us. I'm sure all of us will appreciate it.

Personally, I'm a bit tired of these I-know-it-all-but-you-need-to-do-your-own-research kind of guys...

ABC

[h2ocommuter]

Geting the right test equipment

Thanks boguslaw,
indeed I have read many times at various places about the counter-spiraling of pos & neg currents.
If we just had instruments to measure both types of currents, everything would become clear, I'm sure.

altair

I need to jump in here. I took Don's protocol and am putting it to practice.
I lookd and looked and found an electrostatic voltmeter I could afford and one that looked reasonably modern. I tried to use it and learned I diddn't know anything about this type of testing, or equipment.
I called the manufacturer and had a nice discussion about what is there the meter is picking up. + and or - was the short answer. I got myself a gauss meter and Just trying to go by what looks like a protocol operation by DS.

I am going to see what Don was seeing !D

h2ocommuter