Donald L Smith

[ovidonster]

Ok, i managed to make a small experiment.

I took a standard 220/30 volts trasformer (windings are isolated) and at input side i connected a resistor in parallel. Transformer specs is
* primary winding 16 ohms resistance, 1.692 H
* secondary below 1 ohm, 27.6 mH

1st try was to connect a 18KOhm resistor and measure output frequency.
2nd try 1Mohm resistor.

Even though are blind resistor values, no deviation in output frequency was measured by my DMM.
...

So, how the f... Don Smith claims he "corrects" the frequency by the application of the transformer's L a parallel R?

Anyone having the chart and willing to do some more detailed measurments have a signal generator?

Baroutologos

@ Baroutologos:
with above experiment of yours you will never change the frequency !!!
Don Smith is able to correct the frequency because it is not fixed, the Neon Sign Transformer will change it's free running 18Khz according to load.
Any coil has intrinsic capacity and will act differently (building up magnetic field around itself) if you shunt it's terminals with a resistor comparable in value with intrinsic resistance of that coil, just think about the Q factor.

Peace.

[baroutologos]

First of all, i do not care at correcting the frequency at the moment since i possess HV HF diodes and can smooth the current.

(by the way a simple demonstration of what you saying will be nice)

I am concern about getting huge resonance with Don's Smiths suggested guidelines. I cannot but i leave a window open due to potential personal incompetence. BTW Big resonance (always in comparison to energy input) seems to lie in large inductunce-little resistance-little capacitance. (hence large Tesla coils)

From my little experience in the field, the plain NST connected to a coil (no cap), that is inductively coupled to another coil and it is feeding a big cap that is in series with a heavy duty isolated transformer which is shunt by a suitable resistor etc is plain BS.

Cannot work for obvious reasons. Its like believing to Santa Clause

[baroutologos]

@baroutologos: Good attitude, honestly.

You DO actively experiment, others talk.
Would it be possible for you to draw an accurate COMPLETE circuit diagram of your whole current set-up, so it is easier to evaluate the processes and possibly give you improvement tips?
Your previous posted diagrams were hard to understand and only showed parts of the circuit unfortunately.
Also, what equipment do you use to measure the secondary frequency/resonance?
Keep it up.

Ok, because i want my experiments to convey the spirit of what i have done and to stimulate others towards similar or just other directions i clarify:


* The http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post87660 is just self explaining.

* The http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post88239 is an execution of the http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post82772 diagram 3. Actually this yeild the best results that are poor contrasting to any serious resonance.

In the same diagram i used the "Don's way" as i unerstood it from the high quality pics of his device, then no resonance in any way. http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...h-diagram2.jpg

All the other figures were tried with less good results (at least preliminary) than those attained with figure's 3.
Note all those figure diagrams are Tesla's from Colorado Springs notes as ways for increasing the Q of the primary circuit (not secondary) and making a smoother resonance.

My personal conclusion is that good resonance lies to high-self induction-low resistance-low capacitance resonance.
That wil be all for now

[Xenomorph]

In the same diagram i used the "Don's way" as i unerstood it from the high quality pics of his device, then no resonance in any way. w

I would forget Don Smith´s circuit if i were you, never saw anyone conclusively
being able to explain how this part of the primary is supposed to result in an oscillation (on multiple forums)
Maybe just stick to the standard tesla coil primary circuit design,
where a sufficient spark gap would kick off an LC-oscillation (without the rectification of the two terminals of the NST by diodes)
You would need an oscilloscope then to determine the resonant frequency
of the oscillation kicked off by the pulses.

From my little experience in the field, the plain NST connected to a coil (no cap), that is inductively coupled to another coil and it is feeding a big cap that is in series with a heavy duty isolated transformer which is shunt by a suitable resistor etc is plain BS.

I agree with the last part.
Smith describes in his very simple device suggestion that a resistor parallel to the output transformer would change the frequency.
Spent a significant amount of time researching frequency correction via resistors alone and could not find anything to support that, because the external driving frequency will always be across the coil and dominate the oscillation. My budget doesnt allow to actually try it out, because only then could Smith´s Theory be sufficiently disprooved (or verified).

[Schpankme]

The NST will be rectified and feeding the C1 cap for firing at a rate 500 times per sec via the spark gap (say) while the large Cp will resonate freely (whether the spark gap fires or not) with Lp.

Let the capacitance be sufficient to take up the entire energy (radiant spike) of the transformer.

- Schpankme

[baroutologos]

@ I agree Zeno with you as with Amigo and others.

The more you get involved,the more you understand Don Smith is a Tesla copycat without preserving the spirit of Tesla resonance... or just a notorious merchant aimed at selling some books and that's all.

I must remind everyone, The only presentation of "overunity" he ever did was in Tesla symposium in 1996 (?) that presented a mysterious suitcase that fiercely opposed to anyone at taking a glipse of its contain.

Personally, althought i am being not so objective towards him (to be fair) have formulated the oppinion that he is a BS-er

[h2ocommuter]

Plasma globe progress and links

I do not know if anybody here is following my progress at OU. but I thought of you guys when I came across the Eric Dollard group of videos.
YouTube - Part 3 of 6: Eric Dollard Tesla Longitudinal Wave Energy SBARC Ham Radio with Chris Carson

I am continuing to post my utube videos and I am working closly with a couple close contacts to achieve the don Smith conclusions. Don't be discouraged.
YouTube - h2ocommuter's Channel


Be well and let knowlege flow..

h2ocommuter.

[baroutologos]

Another kapanadze areplication video

Re-post from the ou.com forum.

YouTube - Kapanadze (Tesla) - replika

Xenomorph reported this. Personally i see little signifficance of circuilating inspiring videos on the net that claim a full replication of Kapanadze effects.

For true meaning of such movement the replicator can come over here and post his claims / views so everybody knows

Regards,

[h2ocommuter]

I agree, Why not share.

Acknowledgements of video and plasma globe associations.

Recent mentoring notes sent to me,
"Remember that don smiths devices are extremely difficult to understand, you need to be a radio freq. expert."

Gulp!

Then I found the videos... serendipity. A student ready to learn. what ever it is, I am answering the call.

This is what I have been searching for; Someone who actually does know what electricity is, and how it is correctly understood, defined, manipulated and applied; According to NT. DS and others of this elite field.

Here are three ED documents I have acquired today;

1 RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting
2 RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting
3 RapidShare: 1-CLICK Web hosting - Easy Filehosting

Authors suggested by ED in the viedos:
Steinmetz, Wheatstone, Sarnov, Bloom, Boiagen, Bulie, Kenely, Heaviside, Maxwell, Faraday and Mc Farlan.

Conclusion;
Needed is the actual arrangement of the signal coming from the plasma globe, or if it is already correct, we as followers have not found how to utilize what is there.
Don has stated to use the parabolic resonance signal, and the pulsed DC square wave from the Diodes. (This last statement is visually applied to the output of the table top design as most people call it. This is directly adapted to the secondary HV center tap sign transformer on the output side of the two hot wires.) As far as I can find he has suggested no other comonly referred to electrical signals.

I am new to electronics so if I am wrong please set me strait!

If anyone has further documentation, videos or related Authors books mentioned above please post the links.

I posted the above at OU and I would like to share it here too.

The one thing I left out, that I understand more about is the Logitudinal wave form. "or non-wave-form", simply pressure. This is of tremendous importance if we are to achieve the output we believe are there.

Good luck everyone in your studies.

h2ocommuter

[boguslaw]

Don Smith plasma globe circuit was probably changed from original one.
No luck with AC plasma globe.

[h2ocommuter]

Magneto dielectric and electrostatic

@ Bar,

have you been looking at the videos relating to Teslas' perameters using the subject of magneto dielectric and electrostatic on a resonant coil?
Defined Longitudinal magneto dielectric system see another video. ED shows the computors that were not in the 6 part series that he wanted to show.
Tesla transverse and longitudinal electric waves


I agree with your findings and results of your before posts about hi Q.
The colorado springs notes are full of observations and corrections NT made while applying miticulously calculated values. where he found the open ended inductor and how that was best applied etc. Changing the relationships and configurations of the circuit to test, for the higest possible resonant features.
My process brings me to ED video where he explains the correct relationship of the ground, "its physical dementions" As you remember NT spent much time developing this structure. and still found unanticipated results when utilizing it in Colorado Springs. "Again more changes. ED states in the video .01 to .001 ohm for the ground.



Also, stated by ED that the SWR should be infinity not 1.

Wow! these are tall orders I cannot fill at this time. I just wanted to contribute.

I have more equipment to buy before I can get into this area of understanding.

God bless, don' let nasayers devert you from these studies.
I could care X about what DS did not share. He may have been a fool to believe in the multimillion dollar entities he said he was in contct with. We may never know. Someone may find they work someday, but certainly not as suggested or not by me I should say.

God Bless, great things will be accomplished when we understand Tesla.
Remember the gaggle of thoes who slam our commitment. this is as Don said they do this because just like them "We cannot define, and or use the magnetic and electrostatic with in our circuits, Please remember Tesla he could!

h2ocommuter

[ABCStore]

I have a strong feeling that what's [intentionally] missing from Donald Smith's device shown is a) a core (e.g. ferrite, magnetite) and b) a magnet

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[baroutologos]

Hey Commuter,

If we are talking about plain, straightforward resonance, Tesla is the ultimate master. Smith's devices are toys compared to resonance obtained by a smoothing running Tesla coil, not to speak for the vast resonant power of the magnifier arrangement.

Personally, my logic cannot even follow Don Smith preachings, whereas I can vividly visualize what Tesla said 1 century ago. Its a matter whether you want to convey something or to confuse IMO.

Anyway, keep the work you see fit and report as i do on my course of studies. Finally, all our attempts combined perhaps will yeild a result.

Regards,

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

It seems to me that Don's bipolar tesla coil design is the EXACT same thing as Tesla's.... the only thing he does differently is make the secondary differential wound, rather than the primary.

Take a look at my thread http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...ead.php?t=5542
I try to explain how it's happening.... Same as E. Gray's Splitting the Positive

[ABCStore]

I think this link might be relevant to the subject

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