Motionless Electromagnetic Generator / Holcomb CopyCat?

[bistander]

From the folks in South Korea.

https://youtu.be/SLJH8Ad2b44?si=8qLt-r5VT0Hook5E

Claims sound like Holcomb's (HES, https://holcombenergysystems.com/)

Any additional information is appreciated. This is just an informative post. I have no financial interest in the company.

Regards,
bi

[bistander]

Links to patent application can be found here

https://www.overunityresearch.com/in...seen#msg109702

bi

[Rakarskiy]

Interesting design, I have thoughts on how they set it all up, with the validity of what they confirm. I need time to check, at the moment I am busy with other projects more important to my country, but this might be a better solution than Figueras and Holcomb. This type is very overlapping with what I am researching.
Anyway, to get what is claimed, the system has to work with the EMF generation of the generator, a transformer can't work, it's a priori.

Free Energy Ukraine - Transformer (do.am)
AISEG - OverUnity Generator COP -28 - Over Unity Systems - Каталог статей - Free Energy Ukraine (do.am)

[Rakarskiy]

Conducted a more detailed analysis of the formation of magnetic lines of force, in the AISEG coil assembly and did not obtain calculated data on the magnetic induction of the coil(s), which is calculated by Bio-Savar's law, for the magnetic induction of a wire with current, that in a given field density may be sufficient magnetic induction to fulfil Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction.
Thus, the technology described in the patent does not disclose the actual technology used to generate output currents greater than the currents for field excitation.
In my opinion, in order to amplify the magnetic field (magnetic induction), it is necessary to have a metal core of appropriate cross-section and magnetic permeability so that the conditions of the law of electromagnetic induction are fulfilled.
Probably, the authors did not want to disclose the details of their technology.
AISEG - OverUnity Generator COP28 - Over Unity Systems - Catalog of articles - Free Energy Ukraine (1-ua--hho-do-am.translate.goog)

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[bistander]

Conducted a more detailed analysis of the formation of magnetic lines of force, in the AISEG coil assembly and did not obtain calculated data on the magnetic induction of the coil(s), which is calculated by Bio-Savar's law, for the magnetic induction of a wire with current, that in a given field density may be sufficient magnetic induction to fulfil Faraday's law of electromagnetic induction.
Thus, the technology described in the patent does not disclose the actual technology used to generate output currents greater than the currents for field excitation.
In my opinion, in order to amplify the magnetic field (magnetic induction), it is necessary to have a metal core of appropriate cross-section and magnetic permeability so that the conditions of the law of electromagnetic induction are fulfilled.
Probably, the authors did not want to disclose the details of their technology.
AISEG - OverUnity Generator COP28 - Over Unity Systems - Catalog of articles - Free Energy Ukraine (1-ua--hho-do-am.translate.goog)

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Hi Rakarskiy,
I read over your report. Interesting. Perhaps I missed it, but can you tell me what leads you to think, or suspect that there is more to the coils than shown in the patent drawings (attached).
Thanks for sharing your analysis.
I still fail to see a source for the extra energy or a method of extracting energy from surrounding environment or contained materials. I wish, and hope, it were true, but sadly......
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[Rakarskiy]

"Additional energy" is a misnomer. This is where the confusion lies. All electromagnetic generators generate EMF on the conductor, due to changes in magnetic intensity, crossing magnetic lines or being at the focus of ring magnetic lines. Since the time of Figuera, the question has been to get rid of the transformer connection in the core, between the conductors. Figuera did it brilliantly. UFOpolitics demonstrated this in its version.
The Koreans clearly hid the main thing in the patent, the exact calculation for the magnetic system. If you look at their block diagram, a traditional transformer with PUSH-PULL. The magnetic system does not stand up to any criticism.
The main thing they have is a direct current generator, at the output from the armature (they call the collector coils or the secondary an armature).
Therefore, the simple method is probably hidden and unspoken.
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[bistander]

"Additional energy" is a misnomer. This is where the confusion lies. All electromagnetic generators generate EMF on the conductor, due to changes in magnetic intensity, crossing magnetic lines or being at the focus of ring magnetic lines. Since the time of Figuera, the question has been to get rid of the transformer connection in the core, between the conductors. Figuera did it brilliantly. UFOpolitics demonstrated this in its version.
The Koreans clearly hid the main thing in the patent, the exact calculation for the magnetic system. If you look at their block diagram, a traditional transformer with PUSH-PULL. The magnetic system does not stand up to any criticism.
The main thing they have is a direct current generator, at the output from the armature (they call the collector coils or the secondary an armature).
Therefore, the simple method is probably hidden and unspoken.
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Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
If I may summarize: You're guessing they are hiding something because what is shown cannot possibly work as claimed.
My conclusion also: What is disclosed cannot possibly work as claimed.

All the energy taken out from the device must have a source. A generated EMF or generated voltage or induced voltage is not energy. There is where the confusion lies.
bi

[Rakarskiy]

Energy is a physical quantity that characterizes the ability of bodies (fields) to do work. Energy (from the Greek word energy - activity). In addition, physicists distinguish between the energy of surrounding fields: magnetic; electromagnetic; electrical; gravitational. But this is nothing more than an allegory, since there is no magnetic energy, but a vector field. Energy is essentially the action of force over time (a quantitative indicator). Potential energy is more of a calculation of possibilities. Consequently, the phenomenon of electricity generation is not a transformation of the original quantitative component, for example, a magnetic field, into another indicator, for example, EMF. Since the EMF occurs without reducing the magnetic field of the permanent magnet. Yes, EMF can be accumulated in the form of an electric field, or rather its potential difference with the appropriate capacitance.
Therefore, the task is extremely clear to create a device where the formation of EMF occurs through low-cost technological processes.

Free Energy Ukraine - EMF in Current (1-ua--hho-do-am.translate.goog)

[bistander]

Energy is a physical quantity that characterizes the ability of bodies (fields) to do work. Energy (from the Greek word energy - activity). In addition, physicists distinguish between the energy of surrounding fields: magnetic; electromagnetic; electrical; gravitational. But this is nothing more than an allegory, since there is no magnetic energy, but a vector field. Energy is essentially the action of force over time (a quantitative indicator). Potential energy is more of a calculation of possibilities. Consequently, the phenomenon of electricity generation is not a transformation of the original quantitative component, for example, a magnetic field, into another indicator, for example, EMF. Since the EMF occurs without reducing the magnetic field of the permanent magnet. Yes, EMF can be accumulated in the form of an electric field, or rather its potential difference with the appropriate capacitance.
Therefore, the task is extremely clear to create a device where the formation of EMF occurs through low-cost technological processes.

Free Energy Ukraine - EMF in Current (1-ua--hho-do-am.translate.goog)

The formation of EMF does not produce energy. So your statements do not address the question of the source of the claimed energy. There is no explanation.
bi

[Rakarskiy]

Who told you that nonsense? Your physics teacher? Or is it your belief?
Let's turn to the physics of interpretation - potential electrical energy in reference values:

Potential electrical energy is related to the position of charges in an electric field. It is the energy that can be converted into an electric current in an electric circuit. In electrical engineering, energy is measured in volts. If the energy has a value of 1 J and the charge is 1 C, then the potential of the electric field will be equal to the value of 1 J/1 C, i.e. 1 W.

The electromotive force of a section of a circle is equal to the energy that a unit charge receives when it passes through that section of the circle

Electromagnetic induction is the phenomenon of creating a vortex electric field in space by an alternating magnetic flux.
Electromagnetic or magnetic induction is the production of an electromotive force (emf) across an electrical conductor in a changing magnetic field.

Also, the source of electromotive force can be other causes: electrochemical reaction, electrical thermo effect, photo effect in solar panels, piezo effects, etc.

EMF is energy! EMF is converted into a magnetic field around a conductor (current force) when an EMF source is closed in an electric circuit with a load.
Everything else is an attempt by short-sighted physicists to put the boot on the globe. If there are exceptions or contradictions in a theory, then it is not true. The theory of electricity with particles and electrons is wrong.

Your Electricity * Over Unity: EMF and CURRENT (rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog)

[bistander]

Who told you that nonsense? Your physics teacher? Or is it your belief?
Let's turn to the physics of interpretation - potential electrical energy in reference values:

Potential electrical energy is related to the position of charges in an electric field. It is the energy that can be converted into an electric current in an electric circuit. In electrical engineering, energy is measured in volts. If the energy has a value of 1 J and the charge is 1 C, then the potential of the electric field will be equal to the value of 1 J/1 C, i.e. 1 W.

The electromotive force of a section of a circle is equal to the energy that a unit charge receives when it passes through that section of the circle

Electromagnetic induction is the phenomenon of creating a vortex electric field in space by an alternating magnetic flux.
Electromagnetic or magnetic induction is the production of an electromotive force (emf) across an electrical conductor in a changing magnetic field.

Also, the source of electromotive force can be other causes: electrochemical reaction, electrical thermo effect, photo effect in solar panels, piezo effects, etc.

EMF is energy! EMF is converted into a magnetic field around a conductor (current force) when an EMF source is closed in an electric circuit with a load.
Everything else is an attempt by short-sighted physicists to put the boot on the globe. If there are exceptions or contradictions in a theory, then it is not true. The theory of electricity with particles and electrons is wrong.

Your Electricity * Over Unity: EMF and CURRENT (rakatskiy-blogspot-com.translate.goog)

Hi Rakarskiy,
Generally accepted, or I should say "universally accepted", science has one joule per coulomb equal to one volt, not one watt as you claim.

You say our science is wrong and your theory is correct. You are mistaken.

What does "electromotive force of a section of a circle" mean? And you call my physics learning nonsense.

As usual, our discussion goes nowhere because you believe in unreal things. So be it.
bi

[Rakarskiy]

Thank you for pointing out the error, I agree with you that it's nothing 1W cannot be equal to 1J/1C
(I use a translator, I don't always check for mistakes.)

1J / 1C = 1V
1J = 1V*C
1J = 1W*s
1W = 1V*1A
1A = 1C*s

In any case 1B is the potential energy of the electric field, which is expressed in quantitative terms in the ratio to to 1 Coulomb.
And since the EMF 1V is the effect of changing magnetic field in electromagnetic induction, in this case it is not wasted, then a very interesting conclusion follows (you can apply more external forces, and you can on the contrary much less). Here is the reverse process creating current force 1A (magnetic field) is always a consumption of electric field capacitance;

[Rakarskiy]

Today I got access to a video of an interesting experiment. Very flimsy design, electromagnetic generator, where the magnetic rotor is fixed in the stator static, and the commutation of electromagnets of the rotor, is made through the collector-brush commutator, driven in rotation by an electric motor.
The output from the phases through diode bridges, brushes commutation of electromagnets, electric motor and voltmeter are connected to the battery. When the electric motor is switched off, the voltage across the battery terminals is 10.57 volts. When the engine is switched on, the voltage at the battery terminals increases, indicating that the battery is charged and the system is operating in autonomous mode. In this way the alternator produces excess power sufficient to power the solenoids, run the electric motor and charge the battery.
The video I placed in my unit at the end of Your Electricity * Over Unity: Electric generator with solid state magnetic rotor. (rakatskiy.blogspot.com)

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You can read how you can design such a machine in my blog. And how the generators of Robert Holcomb work, I think there will be no questions.

[alexelectric]

Very interesting, thanks Rakarskiy

[Rakarskiy]

Korean DC generator (promo video from five years ago)

에너지 혁명 이룰 전자발전기 개발 시연회…질문자들 아리송해 < 산업 < 종합 < 기사본문 - 우먼컨슈머 (womancs.co.kr)

I think that this generator is a bomb not only in energy but also in physics!


Another Korean inventor but mechanical self-propelled system post publication date 2016. 3. 31

https://blog.naver.com/jing006/220670532269