Reactive Power Generator (RPG) Replication Project

[tarak]

hi no you do not ADD epsom salts, the sulfuric acid is not put in from the start there is a mixing of water and epsom salts that replaces the sulfuric acid. you can empty the old battery out but you will have to flush it out several times, but it needs to be relatively a new battery. Trogen, they use one of the plate with solid lead, the other is a paste trapped in a Gauss of some kind, they are looking at using a two layer of grafene to hold the paste in and they also have the new electrolyte

[Donald Haas]

Hi All, this post is from a couple days ago.
I did a 12hr run yesterday and the banks were standing at 61.0 this AM. Slight decline. I'm going to pair the coils and run with 8 FETs. Need a couple days for that. This is the direction for possible 3krpm.

I watched the David Squires advanced motor secrets yesterday and didn't comprehend any direction for building a generator.
I did take his recommendation to download and learn the free FEMM4.2 software. He said that he has been using it for motor design engineering for 10yrs and with this software you can learn if something will work before you build it. Very sophisticated software. Not for the novice.

Aaron, I'm hoping you can shed a little light on direction for better generator than I have. (6 pole air core, 1x1x4" mags). I made a motor out of my formally used 4 pole gen and had it up to 3krpm @48v. Either the motor or the room was sliding around, lol.

bro d

[Donald Haas]

PB1.jpg PB2.jpg PB3.jpg PB4.jpg Battery testing with: CBA IV https://www.westmountainradio.com/pr...oducts_id=cba4

Batt test data:
TEST PB1: 9.221Ah from 12.953 to 12v, 138 minutes (2.3hrs) Amp draw 4A
TEST PB2: 9.471Ah from 12.996 to 12v, 284 minutes (4.74) Amp draw 2A
TEST PB3: 8.45Ah from 13.14 to 12v, 169 minutes (2.82hrs) Amp draw 3A
TEST PB4: 9.38Ah from 13.06 to 12v, 563 minutes (9.38hrs) Amp draw 1A

In a few minutes after each test, the tested battery was standing at around 12.4v



When you look at the graphs in the software program with the CBA IV, there is a read out for each of thousands of data points.

Batteries labeled 650cca, (Walmart changed the label to 750cca) lightly used, not abused batts 5 months old,
EVERSTART PLUS GRP 65, 47.4 LBS, 140 Minutes of reserve capacity, 2 yr warranty.
I suspect that we will see similar results form other car batts.
I'm going to test a 35Ah older batt from 13 to 12v and compare.

bro d

[Aaron]

Donald, are you able to post images into the post instead of pdfs? Also, with the CBA IV, you can keep the charts on there from previous tests so you can see the differences overlayed on top of each other - it will make each one a different color.

So the 650 cca battery you have has a 20 hour or 1200 minute discharge rate of about 0.5 amps meaning it is a 10 Ah battery...estimating by roughly doubling your near 600 minute run.

That's way less than dividing cca by 7 or even 20, that is dividing it by 65!!! 650 / 65 = 10 Ah for the 20 hour rating.

How did you establish your 13v starting voltage? Did you charge them to the low 15v range and let them settle down?

[jettis]

I am going to throw this one out there, I noticed there is a reactor (toroidal coil) on the RPG. I know it was discussed about the RPG output being more than input. I believe this may be what was used to see the gains as seen on the RPG.

The image below from John Bedini’s presentation is what John called a longitudinal wave tuner or detector. The image of John below was taken from the video https://emediapress.com/shop/free-energy-generator/ At 22:18 of the video John waves his Orange1984 Bedini Generator booklet to the audience when speaking of another way to make a longitudinal wave tuner or detector. John says” The other way would be the Enegizer that I drew…in this book… what occurs is you have a flywheel and a North and a south magnet you got a half inch air gap…” and he draws the picture below, that he just finished calling the Enegizer.

The point is… the reactor is connected across the power winding and two rotor magnets, north and south, the two secondaries are connected to an oscilloscope and this produces a longitudinal wave (stationary current as Paul Babcock states). So if this arrangement detects longitudinal waves then it must produce or make them for our machines.

‘The image that shows John drawing on the chalkboard shows a box on the far right that is connected to the two transformer output coils… this is an oscilloscope, I never included it in the sketch I made.

Here is a video by Chris Sykes that explains the arrangement… https://youtu.be/14lYNT3F0fw?si=q9Ky5CteLwMgzSTE

Graham Gunderson also talks about the reactor arrangement and has some good things to say about Chris Sykes.

I also believe David Squires, Jim Murray and others talk about the reactor. .

I’m of the opinion this reactor arrangement needs to be seriously investigated as it was put on the RPG for a reason.

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Dave Wing

[Donald Haas]

Aaron, I charged the test batts to low 15v range with JB 10A charger.

I tested a 35Ah Batt with 1.75 Amp draw from 13v to 12v and then did 2nd test on same graph down to 10.5v.
I drew total of 33.3 Ah from the batt but from 13 to 12v was less than 7Ah.

bro d
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[Aaron]

On your RPG tests with 60v banks, are those batteries the ones where you found 10Ah is what you could get from the discharge test?

If so, then is that 60v @ 10ah bank on the front and same on the back?

What was your average current draw and running time again?

With each starter battery showing to be only 10Ah, how does this put your COP into perspective of what you achieved so far?

Dividing the battery cca by 65 rather than 7 to 20 is a huge difference and would indicate that you were doing quite a bit better than you thought?

Is this an accurate perspective on my part?

[Donald Haas]

Mr Jettis,
I just looked in to the Chris Sykes basic info and I understand the 3 coil claims. Has any one demonstrated a rotored device with this concept?
I have got to check this out on my bench.

bro d

[jettis]

Hi Donald,

I believe John Bedini has shown us in his ferris wheel, the three big coils are a transformer.

I do not know how Mike and Norm wired the red toroid coil, but it doubled the output amperage of the RPG. I posted a image screen shot of the video time period so you can check it out for yourself.

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Here is the video…https://emediapress.com/shop/trials-...tor-generator/


Dave Wing

[serendipitor]

I watched the David Squires advanced motor secrets yesterday and didn't comprehend any direction for building a generator.

bro d

Hi Don

The relevant point is at minute 46, where he is talking about getting a high peak magnetic flux with a low voltage, and he shows a circuit for that. In the case of the motors we are making, we want to concentrate the high magnetic flux in the proximity of the magnets, where it will make the most torque. But to make that flux by just switching on a low voltage source, we need to switch at a location far from the magnet such that the current will slowly ramp up and rise to a useful level by the time the magnet is close. That relatively slow ramp up time is a reduction in efficiency. David uses a big choke, pre-charged with current, that is switched into the motor coils to create a sudden rise in current therein. That will of course create huge voltage spikes in the process, so it must be approached carefully. In my testing, as I mentioned, it was not clear that it was worth the increase in complexity, as the choke will also have its own losses as well.

Mike Clark's generator shows motor wave forms that are remarkably fast in rise time and fall time, so they are somehow achieving this goal of concentrating the magnetic flux near to the magnets, and I am not at all clear on how this is happening. It seems that their circuitry is more simple than what I was creating when I was working on it.

[Donald Haas]

Aaron,
I used the batts that I tested for my reported runs.
I recharged them all and am running up to 16hrs a day.
I'll report when they go below 60v, standing, or it appears that they won't indefinitley.
We are over 36hrs run time at present.
With the present Amp draw, at less than 20hrs runtime we have OU.
Will report.
bro d

[Donald Haas]

"Mike Clark's generator shows motor wave forms that are remarkably fast in rise time and fall time, so they are somehow achieving this goal of concentrating the magnetic flux near to the magnets, and I am not at all clear on how this is happening. It seems that their circuitry is more simple than what I was creating when I was working on it."

Mr serendipidor,

Glad to make your acquaintance, love your name.

Paul B talked a lot about silicon carbide mosfets as being "the greatest invention...........".
He was referring to the rise and fall time speeds as being extremely valuable and a great benefit to our direction of research.
He is advanced in the art of mosfet switching and he said that they can be "tricky" to get right.
He talked about the length of time from rise to fall of the spike as the place where there can be great improvement in charging energy.
His "they are all the same vid" is where I heard him go on and on about sic fets. 2.44 micro sec r and f of spike.jpg spike ringing.jpg
I'm seeing 2.44uS (cursor readout) rise and fall of 700+v spikes, then the ringing.
Don't know how this compares to Paul B's thinking.
He will help us more.

David Sq, required iron core coils for his presented approach. (before sic fets were available)

be talkin"

bro d

P>S> After a closer look at the 2.44uS it appears according to the cursors and the divisions to be closer to 2.2uS duration.

[Donald Haas]

[QUOTE=jettis;n513057]

I believe John Bedini has shown us in his ferris wheel, the three big coils are a transformer.

I do not know how Mike and Norm wired the red toroid coil, but it doubled the output amperage of the RPG. I posted a image screen shot of the video time period so you can check it out for yourself.

Jetis,

According to

aboveunity.com (Chris Sykes website)

the, partnered output coils need to receive pulses from the primary at their resonant frequency for best results and the pulses have to be the duration of a quarter of the the sign wave and they must occur at the first quarter.
Lotta bench time for proof of concept.

Maybe JB and Norm know better. I'm going to check it out with 3 coils on a ferrite rod and see if I can detect a little something.

Another thread might be in order.

bro d

[Aaron]

With the present Amp draw, at less than 20hrs runtime we have OU.

Ok cool, what is that present amp draw while running?

[Aaron]

Paul did discuss his Flyback company switching patents plenty of times in the past. Has anyone looked at those in order to see different schools of thought? I'm not saying he is using those for any of these circuits right now, but it's educational as is David Squires' presentation.