Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[slayer007]

@Slayer

You have pobably been asked this a cazillion times but -

What are the dimensions of your L1 and L2 and wire gauge for both.

Kindest Regards, Penno

This setup the L1 is 13' x 3.25' 26awg mag wire, L3 is 16' x 3.25' 23 awg mag wire.
L2 is a 9 turn pancake coil 21 awg plastic coated wire.

[penno64]

@Slayer

You have pobably been asked this a cazillion times but -

What are the dimensions of your L1 and L2 and wire gauge for both.

Kindest Regards, Penno

[slayer007]

For this test I added a variable capacitor across the L2 coil.

It's running off a 1.5v AA battery lighting 40 led's and a 14w FL.

Remember this the lower the voltage you use with this circuit the less current you draw.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter with variable capacitor

[penno64]

Hi Guys,

Thanks to all for suggestions.

I have gone up to a TIP3055 and heatsink.

I have tried several diameters of L2 and settled on a 75mm 8 turn.

Our bulbs are 240v here in Australia - so I am not able to light it brightly.

I am yet to meaure DC current draw but running from a 12v car battery (old) voltage sits at 12.07 - 12.08.

My L1 is using a spool of .5mm wire and the diameter is 35mm and it stands
about 280mm tall.

Initially I found better peak voltage (via scope) when holding the compressed
L2 just above centre of L1.

I tried stretching L2 and have settled on that setup with L2 going up two thirds of L1.

Two questions -

At what point should I take off the BEMF ?

EDIT : Why can I not get my led from Ov to BASE via 2 x IN4148 to light ? Got the diode going. Changed to a lower voltage one.

Once again, thanks for the help.

Kind Regards, Penno

Guys, the battery seems to have settled at 12.09 and has now been running for a couple of hours.
TIP3055 is warm on the heatsink but not hot.

Just as an aside, have any of you seen some of the videos of MOPOZCO about his "TROS" on youtube. I would love to replicate some of those.

[digitz]

Hi to all
As suggested I did some tests

With mini tesla 8 w load
9 am 12.64
4:20pm 12.63 and removed load
6:15pm without sec the reading was 12.68


All readings done with Fluke 87 V Fluke 705 and Metra 10 having same readings
cheers

totoalas

sounds very promising
Could you try another longer test with the mini tesla coil 8w load ? (another variant would be to use the battery a little more discharged, like around 12.20v to see what happens)
And if you use another battery for same experience, that might give some confirmations
i hope to build one soon myself, for the moment i am still full hands on the Tesla Switch

Sounds Great !

[xee2]

limiting circuit current

The way that I am getting around the transistor heat problem on the "Mini" is by not running it at more than 9 volts. I also put a heat sink on the transistor.
On the larger coil circuit that makes the plasma, the situation is worse because I could not get the plasma unless I used more power. The way that I stopped blowing transistors on that one was to just run the circuit for a few seconds. That is really not a solution. I noticed that Woopy was using a blower fan to cool his down. Jonny was actually putting his transistor in a small cup of water. If you add more output load (lights) that seems to help also. Dr. Stiffler explained the problem in his circuit as the energy needing a way out. If you don't give it a way to go, then it ends up as heat at the transistor. I don't know if that applies to Slayer's circuit or not.

Lidmotor

Adding a 10 ohm 5 watt resistor in series with the positive battery terminal will provide some automatic power control. As the current goes up the voltage drop across the resistor will increse thus reducing the voltage to the transistor. It is not a perfect solution but it should prevent really large currents. Note - this limits current to the transistor, the battery current will be increased since power is being wasted in the resistor.

[slayer007]

@ penno64

Adding a variable capacitor across the emitter and transistor base you can controll the current intake.
Also removing the bemf the L2 coil makes will help keep the heat down.
And you can also charge another battery with it.

I have also been having better results with larger L1 coils.
It gives me a stronger field and uses less current.

[totoalas]

SEc or battery self charging??????

Hi to all
As suggested I did some tests
21 July21 1845 12.65
Next day 0800 12.69 cold state without load
started charging in max wtih batt charger output rating 45 amp
after 30 minutes 13.35 nd now put some load 40 w pelier cooler
Another 30minutes 12.18 and after removing load 12.64
With mini tesla 8 w load
9 am 12.64
4:20pm 12.63 and removed load
6:15pm without sec the reading was 12.68


All readings done with Fluke 87 V Fluke 705 and Metra 10 having same readings
cheers

totoalas

[totoalas]

frying transistors

Hi Lidmotor,

I am starting to get some reults from varying L2 turns.

I recall in your video, you mentioned "blowing" several transistors.

How did you resolve that issue.

Kind Regards, Penno

there are many ways as Lidmotor mentioned
One cut the amp draw by adding one Mpsa06 b to e and c to b with e hanging
two using the brass terminal of a terminal block on the transistor
iI cuts the temp by 4 deg C

[Lidmotor]

Blown transistors

Hi Lidmotor,

I am starting to get some reults from varying L2 turns.

I recall in your video, you mentioned "blowing" several transistors.

How did you resolve that issue.

Kind Regards, Penno

The way that I am getting around the transistor heat problem on the "Mini" is by not running it at more than 9 volts. I also put a heat sink on the transistor.
On the larger coil circuit that makes the plasma, the situation is worse because I could not get the plasma unless I used more power. The way that I stopped blowing transistors on that one was to just run the circuit for a few seconds. That is really not a solution. I noticed that Woopy was using a blower fan to cool his down. Jonny was actually putting his transistor in a small cup of water. If you add more output load (lights) that seems to help also. Dr. Stiffler explained the problem in his circuit as the energy needing a way out. If you don't give it a way to go, then it ends up as heat at the transistor. I don't know if that applies to Slayer's circuit or not.

Lidmotor

[penno64]

Hi Lidmotor,

I am starting to get some reults from varying L2 turns.

I recall in your video, you mentioned "blowing" several transistors.

How did you resolve that issue.

Kind Regards, Penno

[Lidmotor]

Energy field

I discovered that you can put another battery operated fluorescent near the exciter and run it with the switch turned off. You just put the light near the Slayer Exciter, turn it on, and then turn it off. The light will stay on at about half brightness. It is another cool effect that this device exhibits.

@ Totoalas
I will be interested to see how your experiments progress. I have not seen any self charging. My "Mini" just drinks energy in gulps and says--- "More please".


Cheers,

Lidmotor

[CosmicFarmer]

Planet power? Colloidial silver generation is faster in the full moon... "Space Conduits" between stars, etc... All affect charging yet are completely unmentioned in books.

@Johnny.... After you have directed your mind toward a goal, and have worked hard for it, taking a break and emptying your mind allows your subconsciousness and the collective unconsciousness (or whatever your calling it) to have a chat... Theta waves in your brain are predominant when this is going on.

... but had no luck so i sat down and had a brew and all off a sudden...

Times like these ;-) Even though it wasn't a flash of inspiration, it did require the observational break. Keep up the good work and keep a fresh mind.

@totalas - Please preform charge/discharge tests because meters regularly lie to you. I recorded a video of a slayer and bedini mutation that the meter showed current flowing INTO both batteries... but I left it alone for a few hours and the run battery did indeed loose charge. When an oscillator is in resonance with its environment (load?) then that's when you will notice these things.

[digitz]

Hi to all
Lidmotor,
Ive just replicated your mini tesla and run it at 12 v dc car battery 70ah
L1 29 awg 25 mm dia 140 mm tall L2 6 turns 21 awg 2 Mpsa06 2 IN4148 and one led Slayer circuit

voltage reading load( no charging done on the old battery)
12.59 9am 12.56 6pm 20 w fl lamp 20 Jul 90 ma
12,63 9 am 12,65 6pm 8 w fl lamp 21 Jul 40 ma

For an 8 w lamp there was voltage increase by 2 millivolt

The mini tesla sits on top of the used car battery

this must be overunity or something else

work in progress and will update later

totoalas

totoalas, check out the battery standing voltage without load at these same times, you'll notice a change between during day and on night
AlbertMunich talks about something similar on 10 coiler thread in his last post, especially during the change from day/night when it works better.

I notice the same on my battery on which i do experiments with the sun, i have variations from 12.50 to up to 12.55.

[TanTric]

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maybe something else, otherwise that OU effect was allready been found on the bigger ones, the small will not be any different...