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  • I'll get a good close up pic of one of the towers (wound 4 of them now) to show everything.
    L1 is approx 400 turns of mid 30's enamelled wire from 2x RF-300 or RF-310 Mabuchi motors.
    L2 can be either 2 turns or 3 turns of 'bell wire', which is, I believe, 22 guage. The spool the wire comes from does have a sticker on it, but someone in their wisdom decided to test a Sharpie over the label ! It appears to be of the same gauge as .032" Rosin Core solder from Radio Shack.
    The L2 coil placement does affect performance. Likewise, there is a massive difference depending upon transistor used, Known plasma producers include MPSA06, HN2222A, C3242A and C3198. Many others will produce good plasma if ones finger nears the output wire end.

    I'll be posting a .txt in a few minutes related to transistors, which also may be of use

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    • Close up pic of tower attached, using C3242A transistor and an excellent but simple heatsink. The transistor fits tightly in between the prong areas of the metalwork sideways. You may have noted such smaller heatsinks on say an old PC monitor circuitboard


      Also....

      THE MEGATEST !
      27 small transistors have been tested, using the same tower and primary coil as in the attached pic in fact. 3 wires ran from the circuit to enable transistor change outs. A 150K variable pot replaced a fixed transistor. Same exciter circuit as Xee2 posted a few posts back.
      The Nokia phone charger was used for power, as well as a button cell 1.5V battery with which practically all will give a 2" LED field at least. I've found that after using the list i'm referencing it all the time simply for pin designations and output powers on test circuits
      Will do a PNP version if folks find use in such a list.
      Just found out that I can't attach a .txt file, so have copied and pasted the info here. Apologies in advance if things don't line up !


      Summary of common TO-92 and similar sized NPN transistors
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      Test conditions -
      'Walgreen' tower of approx 400 turns.
      Slayer exciter circuit.
      2 turn primary (adjustable height and used to ascertain best results from each transistor).
      Adjustable pot of 150K size replaces resistor.
      3.7V Nokia phone charger, 340mA rated maximum output.
      All items static except transistor connection wires.
      ? denotes no found datasheet
      The lightbulb is an energy saver, rated at 13W 200mA
      Illumination of the lightbulb regards sections of the twirl lowly lit, rising to fuller brightness
      Neon tests were conducted using a hand held dipole antenna
      In datasheet searches, often '2S' preceeds the designation..such as 2SC1213 for a transistor physically marked as C1213

      All transistors salvaged from used equipment - use only as a guide.
      19C/66F ambient room temperature.


      Key:
      T - Transistor numbering as commonly appears upon the casing
      Pin - Transistor connections left to right, looking at the flat front of a TO-92 case
      CC - Collector Current
      Notes - Observations made during testing. Brackets indicate stated grade tested

      Strongest to weakest
      -------------------------------

      T.............Pin...CC... Notes

      D471.......ECB 1A Strongest by 10% in all regards - case larger than TO-92
      2N7000 ...SGD 400mA MOSFET 2A pulsed, strong plasma, full bright bulb increasing with positioning, strong distance neon, large LED field
      C3242A...ECB 2A Strong air plasma, full bright lightbulb increasing with positioning, excellent wide field
      KN2222A.EBC 600mA Strong air plasma with wide coil vertical position possible, full bright lightbulb, excellent wide field
      C3198.....ECB 150mA Strong air plasma, full bright lightbulb increasing with positioning, excellent wide field
      C1213.....ECB 500mA (C) Air plasma, full bright lightbulb, excellent wide field
      MPSA06..EBC 500mA Air plasma, full lightbulb, excellent field
      C2120.....ECB 800mA Plasma, full bright lightbulb, lower LED field strong within
      C536N....ECB 150mA Plasma with body capacitance, full bright lightbulb, excellent LED field
      G3195.....ECB ? Plasma with body capacitance, full lightbulb, excellent LED field
      D667.......ECB 1A (C) Plasma with body capacitance, full lightbulb, excellent LED field - taller case
      30611.....EBC ? Plasma with body capacitance, 95% lightbulb, excellent LED field
      H945......ECB 150mA (P) Tiny plasma with body capacitance, 90% lightbulb, good neon, good LED field
      30613.....EBC ? Tiny plasma with body capacitance, 90% lightbulb, good neon, good LED field
      C1815....ECB 100mA No plasma, 90% lightbulb, good neon, very good LED field
      2N3904...EBC 100mA Slightly stronger in all aspects than the tested C9014
      C9014....EBC 100mA (C) 90% lightbulb, good neon, good LED field
      BC547....CBE 100mA (B) 60% lightbulb, low neon, bright LED field near to tower
      30612.....EBC ? 60% lightbulb, good LED field distance
      C2878....ECB 300mA (A) 30% lightbulb, good neon, good LED field
      C1854....ECB ? 30% lightbulbbulb, good neon, good LED field
      MPSA44.ECB 300mA 30% lightbulb, good neon, low end LED field
      C945......ECB 100mA 25% lightbulb, very low neon, good LED field
      C2229....ECB 20mA 20% lightbulb, very low neon, good LED field for other traits
      KSP13...EBC 500mA Very weak, partial neon, low LED field - it's a Darlington!
      S9018....EBC 50mA Very weak, partial neon, low LED field
      MPSA13.EBC 500mA This one was all but dead. 2" wireless LED field. No power for anything else.


      And, a couple of videos, to catch up with myself lol. Wireless transmission tests through coax cable through to a dish and perhaps my best range tests so far, using a T shaped collapsing antenna and dipole wire on the top.

      YouTube - Wireless energy dish transmitter test

      YouTube - Dipole wireless field !!!
      Attached Files
      Last edited by Slider2732; 04-26-2011, 09:27 PM.

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      • @ Slider2732

        Wow! Excellent post. Thanks. I have MPSA06 and 2N3904. I will give them a try.

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        • transistor C4821 works ok, bit bigger than a to-92 and heatsinkable-ish.
          tests considerably better for me than the 2222a on my replication, bigger bump on the speccy. Replication: an empty solder tube 17x95mm, with about 200-250t on L1/ slayer circuit.
          yet to get results like you guys , but the vids/info looks great

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          • Mopozco's How To Radiant energy

            YouTube - radiant-energy


            Replicators please


            totoalas

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            • Slider
              Nice summary of results
              MPsa06 works many wonders
              keep posting them

              Dont know if slayer is also high frequecy oscillatoor???? that will fit on this circuit by farmhand

              Wishful thinking or w/o thinking anmore lol
              http://www.energeticforum.com/attach...ircuit-007.jpg

              cheers

              totoalas
              Last edited by totoalas; 04-27-2011, 09:23 AM.

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              • Festering

                bit of fun YouTube - festering

                btw the T05 2n3053 works as well
                Stew Art Media

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                • Originally posted by totoalas View Post
                  YouTube - radiant-energy


                  Replicators please


                  totoalas
                  wow i feel dumb! amazing stuff. need to watch it a lot more.
                  Stew Art Media

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                  • Originally posted by jimboot View Post
                    wow i feel dumb! amazing stuff. need to watch it a lot more.
                    Most likely a metal plate under white cardboard connected to exciter. Adding copper plate on top of cardboard makes capacitor which is like direct connection to exciter at RF frequencies. So it is probably just like touching bulbs to the HV coming from an exciter. But, he does have a powerful exciter.

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                    • Slider2732 and Jim thanks for showing your Great videos.

                      Slider2732 thanks for showing your transistor results.That really helps everyone a lot.


                      For this test I wanted to see how small of a L1 coil I could use.

                      Depending on the size of the coil of the collector this setup will run very fast.


                      YouTube - Six Turn L1 Coil


                      This is a test using a variable inductor off the collector.

                      YouTube - Six Turn L1 Exciter Coil Test 2
                      Last edited by slayer007; 04-27-2011, 10:06 PM.

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                      • Originally posted by totoalas View Post
                        YouTube - radiant-energy


                        Replicators please


                        totoalas
                        Are there any more details available to replicators? Component values? A better schematic?

                        Thanks

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                        • Originally posted by 7imix View Post
                          Are there any more details available to replicators? Component values? A better schematic?

                          Thanks
                          I think Mopozco has a way of teaching replicators
                          that is to check his previous vids / comments to pick up on the parts and learn from it
                          Tros air core reload and TROS TT supercap
                          From the video
                          Tesla coil L2 10 t 1/8 inch solid cu wire????
                          L1 ???? 3 inches dia????
                          5v 9.5 or 0.95 Amps ????
                          2N3055 check
                          Cap 600f ?????
                          Others can fill in the ???? parts / power supply amps

                          cheers

                          totoalas

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                          • It's a very interesting video totoalas. He's having much better success than I ever have with aluminium sheets. Seems that the energy dissipates much more readily than in his demo. Mind you, I haven't seen the voltage or transistor he uses. I'm wanting to make a sort of racetrack, with an energised trackway and so will definitely look into the sheet idea again

                            Jim, I laughed so much when I saw that video !!!!

                            Slayer, great vids again. Particularly how the Primary wire was of a finer diameter than expected for such a good output. Mind you, 'you da man' with this stuff

                            electrOn, that's one very nice CRT amplifier you have there lol. Crazy what these were intended for sometimes eh. 500mA so it says on the datasheet and very low saturation voltages...niiiice.


                            Here we have a couple of perhaps interesting vids from myself too.
                            First, how about >2ft wireless range to light a neon and by using a dinky Walgreen tower on the Nokia cellphone charger ?
                            The Walgreen CS (as it looks somewhat like Nikola Tesla's Colorado Springs rig)
                            YouTube - Walgreen CS - big range wireless exciter

                            AND....how about audio from one of those dinky Walgreen towers, on 6V ?
                            Transistor used is a KN2222A, audio connections are easy enough, one line to Ground, the other to the Base of the transistor.
                            It's not too good yet, so work needs doing on it all, but the voice at the start says:
                            Hi, I am a Walgreen audio tower, created by Slider2732.
                            My name is Jennifer and this is my voice.
                            Plasma is how I talk to you.
                            Can you hear me ok ?
                            Do I need to adjust the feedback or the transistor for you ?
                            YouTube - Audio from a tiny Tesla tower - Walgreen AT
                            Last edited by Slider2732; 04-28-2011, 01:40 AM.

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                            • ...and now things are much better
                              I cut a foam cup in half and joined them end upon end, to form a speaker surround. The audio is much improved.
                              It now has sound to light too, in the form of an energy saver bulb that flashes to the beats.
                              Music is Kraftwerk - Pocket Calculator

                              YouTube - Micro plasma tower plays Kraftwerk
                              Attached Files

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                              • I hooked up an av plug to my scope probes tonight. My 4" tower does not do electrolysis as well as my mini exciter with a ferrite core that i got from a crystal radio kit. I was curious since the 4" has a massive field comparison and lights a 40watt 4' cfl. According to my scope the 4" oscillates at 1.5mhz whilst the crystal radio coil oscilates at 3.13mhz. I then tried another two coils. One with the same wire as the 4" (0.28mm) and one with much finer wire that looks about 0.15mm. I got it from rechargeable hand crank torches. Both were wound on a 19mm dia and both hand higher frequencies. The finer wire wound on 19mm at about 40mm height gave me a frequency of 5mhz. it does electrolysis a lot better than any other coil but the field is quite weak. Btw im simply attaching the end of the primary to the anode of a 4148diode and immersing the entire diode in the water. No copper tape on the outside of the glass. Also the smaller coils do not give plasma. All these measurements were taken whilst using the h945 from a PC power supply.
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