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  • jonnydavro
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    @Lidmotor.Great find .Its interesting how you are just using the Slayer L1 coil and getting the sec effect.Another thing you could try is use just the slayer L1 and L2 coils and connect the L2 between collector and emitter where the normal jt Led would go though you may have to use a diode.
    I am working on something similar with a Bedini circuit and am getting good results with both the sec effect and the motor spinning and it will light a fluorecent so the show goes on I will try to make a vid and draw a circuit up on friday when i get some time off.Jonny
    Last edited by jonnydavro; 05-04-2010, 06:56 AM.

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  • Lidmotor
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    High powered JT Motor / Exciter ??

    Originally posted by slayer007 View Post
    That is impressive Lidmotor, Great video.
    Have you tried it with a higher voltage yet?
    This little guy didn't like anything over 3 volts. It made the transistor hot. If I rewound the coils with finer wire and more turns that might solve that problem. Someone probably has the answer already. I tried this with a 2N2222, MPSA06, and a TIP3055. They all worked but the SEC effect is not as strong as with the other circuits. At least not yet.

    Lidmotor
    Last edited by Lidmotor; 05-04-2010, 03:13 AM.

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  • slayer007
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    Originally posted by Lidmotor View Post
    @Jonny, Slayer, and All
    I made a little pulse motor (kinda like a window motor) and got it to run on a Joule Thief circuit. What was an unexpected find was that the arrangement produced SEC effects. The effect was most noticeable when the motor was stopped and the circuit was just self-oscillating. I came right off the transistor collector into a Slayer L1 coil and then into a Dr. Stiffler SEC tower. No ferrite toroid and no caps. ONE AA BATTERY!
    Here is a video of what I saw ------



    YouTube - JT MOTOR.ASF

    Cheers,



    Lidmotor
    That is impressive Lidmotor, Great video.
    Have you tried it with a higher voltage yet?

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  • Lidmotor
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    JT Motor/Exciter

    @Jonny, Slayer, and All
    I made a little pulse motor (kinda like a window motor) and got it to run on a Joule Thief circuit. What was an unexpected find was that the arrangement produced SEC effects. The effect was most noticeable when the motor was stopped and the circuit was just self-oscillating. I came right off the transistor collector into a Slayer L1 coil and then into a Dr. Stiffler SEC tower. No ferrite toroid and no caps. ONE AA BATTERY!
    Here is a video of what I saw ------



    YouTube - JT MOTOR.ASF

    Cheers,

    Lidmotor

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  • serfer5
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    Originally posted by jonnydavro View Post
    Hi.Here is a vid by boxa888on utube and he is transmitting wirelessly,20 feet through the ground and lighting fluorecents.
    Whats interesting apart from the size of his coils is he is he is using tesla's wireless energy transmitter patent for the base for his experiments and transmitting through the earth.
    Also he can light his fluorecent tubes outside the range of the near field from the "exciter coil"as the earth is acting as a wire.
    Here is one of his vids which shows his coils and i am wondering how a slayer exciter would work with coils this size?Check his channal out for vids of these monsters in action.Jonny
    YouTube - Wireless Transmission of Electrical Energy Tesla Magnifying Transmitter Colorado Springs Research 1
    @Kazm.Thanks for doing the ambient avramenko plug experiment and going fullwave with the extra diodes was a great idea.
    Nice vids Jonny but to run this size coil in Slayer SEC mode you might have to go up to 24 or 48 volts I think ........ but what an output and range that would be

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  • jonnydavro
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    Hi.Here is a vid by boxa888on utube and he is transmitting wirelessly,20 feet through the ground and lighting fluorecents.
    Whats interesting apart from the size of his coils is he is he is using tesla's wireless energy transmitter patent for the base for his experiments and transmitting through the earth.
    Also he can light his fluorecent tubes outside the range of the near field from the "exciter coil"as the earth is acting as a wire.
    Here is one of his vids which shows his coils and i am wondering how a slayer exciter would work with coils this size?Check his channal out for vids of these monsters in action.Jonny
    YouTube - Wireless Transmission of Electrical Energy Tesla Magnifying Transmitter Colorado Springs Research 1
    @Kazm.Thanks for doing the ambient avramenko plug experiment and going fullwave with the extra diodes was a great idea.

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  • kazm
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    Gave the fuji circuit a go and it appears to have SEC like effects as well:

    YouTube - Fuji Camera Circuit Exciter
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  • juju
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    hmm

    Originally posted by serfer5 View Post
    the 150 volts is only a potential that will be "loaded down" when you put a load on the circuit. In this case, the 3 LED's are the load and so your calculation will be the voltage across the load 3.7 volts X 5ma = 0.0185 watts. The 3 LED's consume 5ma total and since they are in parallel, each led consumes 1.66 ma. hope this helps
    but if it is a potential voltage, it is not real voltage? if i light a CFL with that will it work? i have to go buy one...

    i do get shock when i touch the output.

    i made some changes and now im drawing: 0,090mA x 5,5V = 0,49W

    and im getting: 0,035mA x 3,7V = 0,13W (With a 14Led panel load)

    and with a neon bulb load i get: 0,001mA x 80V = 0,08W

    without load i still have the potential 150V.. 150V x 0,035mA = 5,25W... it was to good to be truth...

    are this results in someway special, or is this completely normal? sorry im a newbie and experimenter in this stuff, dont know to much...

    the truth is that with a sec exiter i never can output more than 1mA and in this case i get 35mA..

    edit: forget it, i was confused, the 35mA are not in the output, but in the capture

    big hugs

    Last edited by juju; 04-15-2010, 02:08 AM.

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  • serfer5
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    Originally posted by juju View Post
    my exiter, that is a combination of various circuits, in one of the radiant energy capture (back EMF) im getting:

    150V without load,

    with one neon bulb loaded it shows 90V but dont draw any current.. and it light's up!

    With a load of 3 Leds in parallel it shows 3,7V and draws 0,005A (5mA)

    150V x 0,005A = 0,75W ?? (This is not correct right?) Its like fake voltage?

    and i still have my output with another 150V without load, and drawing 0,5mA with load.

    The consumption of my circuit is: 9V x 0.025A = 0,225W


    can somebody explain me this? cause i dont get it!!

    hugs

    the 150 volts is only a potential that will be "loaded down" when you put a load on the circuit. In this case, the 3 LED's are the load and so your calculation will be the voltage across the load 3.7 volts X 5ma = 0.0185 watts. The 3 LED's consume 5ma total and since they are in parallel, each led consumes 1.66 ma. hope this helps

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  • juju
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    someone can help me with a doubt?

    my exiter, that is a combination of various circuits, in one of the radiant energy capture (back EMF) im getting:

    150V without load,

    with one neon bulb loaded it shows 90V but dont draw any current.. and it light's up!

    With a load of 3 Leds in parallel it shows 3,7V and draws 0,005A (5mA)

    150V x 0,005A = 0,75W ?? (This is not correct right?) Its like fake voltage?

    and i still have my output with another 150V without load, and drawing 0,5mA with load.

    The consumption of my circuit is: 9V x 0.025A = 0,225W


    can somebody explain me this? cause i dont get it!!

    hugs

    Last edited by juju; 04-14-2010, 12:24 AM.

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  • Zooty
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    Sorry didn't realize

    Would you consider selling the plans at a reduced cost for the DIY scientist?
    Last edited by Zooty; 04-13-2010, 06:38 PM.

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  • DrStiffler
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    Originally posted by Zooty View Post
    Hi guy's and gals,

    Does anyone have the SEC 18-1 circuit layout? I have some layouts from Dr.Stifflers site but the circuit does not look complete in the documentation. Specifically L1 and L2 inductance values and the placement of the tuning LED in the circuit.

    Thanks
    @Zooty

    The 18-x diagrams are (c) and only supplied in the documentation to people who purchase a board. Distribution of this documentation to third parties is illegal.

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  • Zooty
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    Hi guy's and gals,

    Does anyone have the SEC 18-1 circuit layout? I have some layouts from Dr.Stifflers site but the circuit does not look complete in the documentation. Specifically L1 and L2 inductance values and the placement of the tuning LED in the circuit.

    Thanks

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  • Zooty
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    SEC 15-3 36 Led's and Battery Charging

    A quick video of my latest SEC Projects, a 15-3 with 36led's and battery charging. Interesting thing is, without the large coil, there is hardly any energy around the primary battery.

    YouTube - SEC 15-3 Replication

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  • kazm
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    @all - had a chance to try some of the great stuff that's been going on here and in the earth battery thread:

    YouTube - Power Plant JT & Big Coil Exciter

    @power-planters: i got my mg ribbon today and compared against the mg firestarter block - the block hovers around 1.25-1.3, the ribbon (5ft length) around 1.58-1.6, possibly due to a larger exposed surface area (i'm attaching a multimeter shot of the mg ribbon battery).

    @jonny - i replicated your Joe Tate modification and have better results with it than with the original Joe Tate circuit. i tried with 2 diodes at first but the cap fills up much faster with 4. so far i've seen it fill to 48v (stopped it there since my cap limit is 50v), my guess is it will climb much higher if left to accumulate with a bigger capacitor, the antennae is a long 26g wire strung along the side of the house. it will run my exciter enough to faintly blink a LED wirelessly, and is more visible with a 480pf cap across the emitter and collector and a 10uf cap across the positive and negative rails. No luck with my JTs yet, they don't seem to like it
    Attached Files
    Last edited by kazm; 04-12-2010, 06:51 AM.

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