Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[Jules Tresor]

Measuring light output

I found another way to evaluate the light output curve versus time.
I put the light in front of a solar panel and I measure the voltage output of the panel.

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I ran 40 LEDs in // from 3 AA batteries (1.5V) in series.
After 30 minutes light output was 25% less, after 2 hours it has reduced by 50% and after 5 hours it was less 75% from the starting.

I will try the same setup when I'll get my replication of Slayer's Coil, running 40 LEDs in series, seeing the evolution of the brightness versus time, and how long it will work from 3 AA batteries.
Thanks,
David

[Jules Tresor]

Tesla Coil / Slayer Coil

Hi, found pictures of a Tesla Coil lighting Fluoresent Tubes :
Teralab - Small Tesla Coil


Slayer's Coil, IMHO, is an improvement/modification of a Tesla Coil, running at low voltage (not needing High voltage circuit), not making sparks, not needing spark gap, and self resonant (not needing pulse circuit) because of the connexion of the secondary coil to the base of the transistor, giving the feed back impulse !!!

An example of circuit that need little modification to do like Slayer's one !
Just suppress the 555 circuit and connect secondary to base of transistor:
SOLID STATE TESLA COIL WITH 555 TIMER | Circuit Project Electronic


Amazing discovery Slayer007 !! It's a full new device by itself, and I don't want to reduce it's importance by comparing it to Tesla's coil.
David

[slayer007]

I had a few Emails from people saying they couldn't view the circuit on the forum.
So here is a video of it showing the circuit.
And I'm also showing the current draw from the cell phone charger that is around 50 mA.
If you dont have one of these phone chargers it will also work great off a 6v battery.
But the little AA batteries are easy to charge and can even be charged with an outside yard light that has a small solar cell on it.
Let it charge during the day and it should run the light all night long.

Here is the video.
YouTube - Exiter Circuit And Current Draw.mov

[sniky]

@slayer007
Can you try to do an experiment? use and AV plug on the ends of the neon (the end of the L1 go to a diode on a end of the neon, and another one on the other end of the neon) and put a compass near the neon and see if the compass moves when the neon is lit.

I was watching a Stanley Meyer video on google and he was talking about magnetized gas and I was thinking this may be the case on your setup as well...

Thanks for all your experiments.

[slayer007]

@slayer007
Can you try to do an experiment? use and AV plug on the ends of the neon (the end of the L1 go to a diode on a end of the neon, and another one on the other end of the neon) and put a compass near the neon and see if the compass moves when the neon is lit.

I was watching a Stanley Meyer video on google and he was talking about magnetized gas and I was thinking this may be the case on your setup as well...

Thanks for all your experiments.

I tried as you asked the compass had no effect by the neon or by the coil.

[Lidmotor]

Light powered Slayer Exciter---no battery

@ All
I got the circuit to run on indirect sunlight using a small solar panel and no battery. I also got it to transmit a signal to a nearby radio. I could tap morris code on it and send out a very nice SOS! HELP!---now where do I put the mic in the circuit????

YouTube - Slayer Exciter --Indoor solar powered radio transmitter.ASF

Lidmotor

[slayer007]

@ All
I got the circuit to run on indirect sunlight using a small solar panel and no battery. I also got it to transmit a signal to a nearby radio. I could tap morris code on it and send out a very nice SOS! HELP!---now where do I put the mic in the circuit????

YouTube - Slayer Exciter --Indoor solar powered radio transmitter.ASF

Lidmotor

Great video lidmotor.

I like how this circuit can run off very low voltage and current from a dead 1.5v battery to a fully charged 12v battery.
I left a comment in your video I'd like to see someone with a good earth battery try running this.

My bigger coil will run from under 2.5 mA to around 150 mA.
It depends on the voltage used and the size of the L2 coil.

I also made a bigger coil yesterday 4" diameter 16" long.
The performance is around the same as the 3.25" by 14" coil.
But I did notice the bigger coil works a lot better for the wireless receiver tower.

I'll have to make a video later of this running off a 9v battery the field is so strong it will even light a 20w fl off the field around the battery.

[slayer007]

I don't have a good earth battery to try this on.
But I made two small water batteries with zinc and copper running in series going into a small capacitor.
It dosen't have enought power to keep the light lit but it will keep blinking.

I'm also running it off a 9V battery and lighting a 20w FL off the field around the battery.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter running off water battery.mov

[jonnydavro]

jonny i've been working with a similar setup using the big 3 1/4 inch toroid from my jeanna's light replication and i'm able to light a 20w tube or 22w halo solid (no interference patterns) using the 1 aa cellphone charger. it will also light an un-modified led bulb to full brightness (and i do mean full, it matches wall output), and keep a candelabra filament bulb steadily lit (although only enough to make the filament glow, light output is very little). The 20w CFL is very picky about the resistance and will not work over 1k.

I've got the diodes on the positive and negative rails (as shown in slayer's diagram) going to a fuji camera capacitor, then to an led bulb. with a 20w CFL tube on L1 i'm getting a constant 130v on the cap with no load. when i connect an un-modified led bulb to the cap it lights dimly and the cap drops to 90v. when i use a modified bulb the bulb lights more brightly and the cap drops to 50v. I tried using 2 cellphone chargers in series for 12v, it doesn't seem to change anything on the L1 output but there is more BEMF on the positive/negative rails. if i let the cap load up to 130v then connect to the filament bulb it lights up very brightly for a few seconds, fully discharging the cap in the process.

i just took my already-wound jeanna's light toroid, removed all but the big winding to use as L1, then added a 75 turn L2 and removed turns while observing performance until i hit the sweet spot (50 turns), at which point i'm seeing the stuff above plus wireless behavior. L1 is .6H, L2 is .03H.

Re: connecting the toroid to the helical coil: I put my 20w tube inside the helical coil and connected the toroid's L1 output to L1, leaving the other end of L1 free. I then connected a croc clip to one end of the L2, leaving the other end of L2 free. The other end of the croc clip then went to the LED bulb with the other end of the bulb going to ground. This lit up the LED bulb to about 90%, and also lit the CFL (i'm attaching a rough circuit diagram). The output is the same if I do the opposite (toroid output to helical L2, helical L1 to LED bulb). Attaching the free ends of L1 and L2 to either side of the CFL will keep it lit outside of the helical tube. If I use only 1 winding (either L1 or L2) and ignore the other I get maximum light output to the LED bulb and the CFL doesn't light.

Hi Kazm.When i was doing this experiment ,i was thinking about using Jeanna's toroid in this design and was going to ask someone to try it as i haven't found a source for these large toroids in the uk and i am also pants at winding them so the fact that you have already done this is great syncronicity and your circuit is the same as mine with the addition of your use of slayers L2.The results you have are great also especially regarding the led bulbs as i personally think leds are the best load for these exciters.
Regarding tuning your circuit.Have you found that the output and performance is the same,every time you start it up and it is not drifting out of tune and maybe we can put a variable inductor in there for fine tuning and also is there any chance of making a vid of your experiment?Nice work .Jonny.
@Slayer.Nice idea with the water battery.Have you considered Lemons and i am being serious.
@LidmotorGreat video's Lidmotor.Radio has a lot to do with these circuits and is the key to long range wireless transmision.Jonny.

[jonnydavro]

Hi.Here is a pic of an experiment i did with Slayers sec.
I was in my local superstore when i saw a 2 litre bottle of water for 13 pence so i thought about Lidmotors experiments with water and decided to make a water core coil.
The results were the water basically kills the output from the coil but the good news was when i emptied it out,the coil worked great.
I also wound an L3 coil on the bottle and just rested that at the top of the winding and that will light one of those flicker flame neons which are a lot harder to light than the standard neon's.If i can get some distilled water i will try the water core again.Jonny.

[solitech]

Hello All

I've been following this topic for a while now and hopefully will be recreating the circuit within the next week or so.

Slayer: Have you tried putting a magnet down into the large L2 coil to see if it increases output?

Also, I've been wondering, I've heard Dr. Stiffler say that his circuits are not RF, they're a different kind of energy, but I haven't been able to find out what RF is exactly or what the difference is, does anybody know of any links on this topic?

[Shamus]

Try Dr. Stiffler's homepage.

[jonnydavro]

power saving mod for simple sec+slayer exciter and wireless energy transmision

Hi .I discovered a strange modification which significantly reduces the current draw on both my Simple sec exciter and also Slayers exciter and may be worth trying on a joulethief.This is what i did.I added an extra transistor and connected the collector of the new transistor to the base of the original and the base of the new transistor to the originals emmiter and left the new transistors emitter floating.The current draw drops by over half and output is not realy effected.Whats more is you can keep adding transistors like so and the current draw comes down with each addition.If anyone has any thoughts on why this floating transistor is having this effect i would be really interested.
I have also had a think about the wireless transmision aspect of these circuits and come up with an updated simple sec reciever circuit but it works equally well with slayers exciter.
I am getting an led to light at over 2 meters distance.
I also did an experiment with slayers exciter and got it lighting an led on a vinegar battery so i think the lemon is a go'er .
Here is a vid of todays experiments and circuit diagrams of power saving mods and wireless reciever circuit update.Jonny

YouTube - Modified simple sec and long range wireless transmision

[Mavrick23]

Trigger transformers

I recently purchased 2 4kv and 2 10kv trigger transformers that have me confused. All 4 are wired such that pin #4 is open to the other pins, pins #1 and #3 are dead shorted, and pin #2 has equal resistance to both pins #1 and #3. This does not correspond to the schematics that I have seen utilizing trigger transformers. Am I missing something or are my transformers inappropriate?

Michael L

[Xenomorph]

I added an extra transistor and connected the collector of the new transistor to the base of the original and the base of the new transistor to the originals emmiter and left the new transistors emitter floating.The current draw drops by over half and output is not realy effected.Whats more is you can keep adding transistors like so and the current draw comes down with each addition.If anyone has any thoughts on why this floating transistor is having this effect i would be really interested.

Jonny,
my guess is that you experience maybe a negative resistance effect.

Transistor as negative resistor

Floating transistors can do that, you can even chain many of them in that fashion.
Keep it up,
Xenomorph