Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[xee2]

improved circuit

This circuit seems to be fairly fool proof. It even survives hooking battery up backwards. Works from 3V to 9V battery or cell phone charger (will light neon with 1.5V battery). It has a lot of output power and will light a tube wirelessly (not as impressive as slayer007 does it though). I have built this several times and it always worked. It also works with a lot of different coils. The circuit can be used to blink 7 watt 110 volt filament bulb using a cell phone charger. Based on slayer007 and k1zm designs.

assy drawing: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=43008

assy photo: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=43009

wireless tube photo: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=43011

blinking 7W 110V bulb video: YouTube - 7W 110V bulb

EDIT: This circuit is not so fool proof after all. The TIP31C will overheat if power supply can supply enough current. A resistor of a few ohms should be put in series with power supply when not being powered by cell phone charger (which can not supply high current).

[jonnydavro]

Hi .I have been experimenting with slayers exciter and noticed that the position of the L2 coil basically creates 2 zone's.High voltage above the L2 and much lower voltage below so i have experimented with different L2 coil configs and have managed to get maximum voltage from the L1 when the L2 is positioned right at the start of L1 so utilising the entire lengh of L1 for hv.
My coil now performs like slayers high output one and i am ony using 1 2n2222a transistor and not collecting the bemf so i still have a few more things to try.My coil is easy to make as the former is an ordinary 2L pop bottle, wound with 26swg from the start of the flat surface at the top to the end of the flat surface at the bottom and if you put a strip of double sided tape on the bottle it makes winding easy as it won't unravel on you.The L2 is 8 turns of 18swg.
I have done a few experiments with this setup and the output is high enough at 6v to produce streamers in a gutted plasma globe and at higher voltages the streamers are stronger.
I have also investigated the true current draw of the 1.5v phone charger.
Here is a vid of the slayer plasma globe and phone charger tests.
I think slayers circuit is amazing and we have only just scratched the surface of what we can do with this.Jonny
YouTube - Slayer exciter plasma globe and other tests
@kazm.Hi.I set your circuit up the other day using a coil instead of the torroid and sustituted the light bulb for a dc motor and that span like a bansheeJonny
@Xee2.Nice work with the power increase .What is the output of your foolproof circuit?1400v?Jonny

[slayer007]

Hi .I have been experimenting with slayers exciter and noticed that the position of the L2 coil basically creates 2 zone's.High voltage above the L2 and much lower voltage below so i have experimented with different L2 coil configs and have managed to get maximum voltage from the L1 when the L2 is positioned right at the start of L1 so utilising the entire lengh of L1 for hv.
My coil now performs like slayers high output one and i am ony using 1 2n2222a transistor and not collecting the bemf so i still have a few more things to try.My coil is easy to make as the former is an ordinary 2L pop bottle, wound with 26swg from the start of the flat surface at the top to the end of the flat surface at the bottom and if you put a strip of double sided tape on the bottle it makes winding easy as it won't unravel on you.The L2 is 8 turns of 18swg.
I have done a few experiments with this setup and the output is high enough at 6v to produce streamers in a gutted plasma globe and at higher voltages the streamers are stronger.
I have also investigated the true current draw of the 1.5v phone charger.
Here is a vid of the slayer plasma globe and phone charger tests.
I think slayers circuit is amazing and we have only just scratched the surface of what we can do with this.Jonny
YouTube - Slayer exciter plasma globe and other tests
@kazm.Hi.I set your circuit up the other day using a coil instead of the torroid and sustituted the light bulb for a dc motor and that span like a bansheeJonny
@Xee2.Nice work with the power increase .What is the output of your foolproof circuit?1400v?Jonny

Great video Jonny
It looks like your getting very nice performance out of your coil.

When I switched to the pancake coil it cut my current intake in half.
With keeping the same performance.

[xee2]

@ jonnydavro

@Xee2.Nice work with the power increase .What is the output of your foolproof circuit?1400v?Jonny

With cell phone charger or 6 volt battery it is 900 to 1000 volts. With 9 volt battery it is 1400 to 1500 volts.

When you run out of room to add more turns on your long coil on the bottle, you can probably make a coil on another botte and add that in series with the output of the first coil (at least that has worked for me in the past).

[jonnydavro]

@Slayer.Hi.I will try your pancake L2 next
@All.Here are a few more pics of some tests i did today with some fluorecent tubes.The first pic is three tubes being lit on 2.7v- two depleated AA batteries and the next is one tube being lit with 1.5v-one AA.These tubes are just resting against the coil and i will use the output to light some leds.The camera brightens them up a bit but they were still pretty bright
In this setup,the transistor was a bc182 and i had a 1N4148 diode from emitter to base.This increased current draw and the power of the circuit.I also tried the tranny mod but this reduced the current draw so i stuck with the diode.Jonny .

[xee2]

The fool proof two transistor circuit I posted turns out to not be so fool proof after all. The TIP31C will overheat if the power supply is able to supply high current. A resistor of a few ohms had to be placed in series with the power supply to prevent overheating. The resistor is not required with the cell phone charger since it will not supply sufficient current to overheat the TIP31C.

A better solution is to only use the 30K resistor to start the circuit. In this case the TIP31C does not overheat.

[jonnydavro]

@ jonnydavro



With cell phone charger or 6 volt battery it is 900 to 1000 volts. With 9 volt battery it is 1400 to 1500 volts.

When you run out of room to add more turns on your long coil on the bottle, you can probably make a coil on another botte and add that in series with the output of the first coil (at least that has worked for me in the past).

@Xee2.Thanks for that voltage info.
Your idea of connecting another coil in series is interesting as I have run out of space on the bottle so I will have a go at that.Did you use the same wire gauge for the 2nd coil as i was planing to wind another bottle but with a different gauge wire to compare with this one or do you think it would be best to stay with the same gauge?Jonny.

[slayer007]

In this video I wanted to see the best performance I could get out of a 1.3v AA battery.
The Exiter is running right off the AA battery lighting a 15W FL tube while lighting 40 LED'S and charging 10 other AA batteries.
It's using around 25 mA from the rechargable battery.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter Running Off A 1.5v AA Battery Lighting & Charging.mov

[xee2]

In this video I wanted to see the best performance I could get out of a 1.3v AA battery.
The Exiter is running right off the AA battery lighting a 15W FL tube while lighting 40 LED'S and charging 10 other AA batteries.
It's using around 25 mA from the rechargable battery.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter Running Off A 1.5v AA Battery Lighting & Charging.mov

Great video, thanks.

[xee2]

I have been experimenting with a two transistor version of the kazm/slayer007 toroid circuit. After trying many configurations, I think the best fool proof solution is to use a variable resistor. The circuit will always start with the resistor set to 30K and the resistance can then be increased if necessary to prevent the TIP31C from overheating.

circuit diagram: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?a...0;attach=43096

[Lidmotor]

Running on low power

In this video I wanted to see the best performance I could get out of a 1.3v AA battery.
The Exiter is running right off the AA battery lighting a 15W FL tube while lighting 40 LED'S and charging 10 other AA batteries.
It's using around 25 mA from the rechargable battery.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter Running Off A 1.5v AA Battery Lighting & Charging.mov

I worked most of the day on your circuit using just a ONE AA BATTERY---and it works! I finally decided to push the edge of the envelope and ran it on the light of a table light with a solar panel and then one small button cell.
You have made a great circuit my friend.
Here is a video of the low low power runs:

YouTube - Slayer Exciter running on very low power.ASF

Lidmotor

[slayer007]

I worked most of the day on your circuit using just a ONE AA BATTERY---and it works! I finally decided to push the edge of the envelope and ran it on the light of a table light with a solar panel and then one small button cell.
You have made a great circuit my friend.
Here is a video of the low low power runs:

YouTube - Slayer Exciter running on very low power.ASF

Lidmotor

Lidmotor Great video as allways.

When you go to a bigger coil you should see even better performance.

The PVC tube I'm using is 3.25" x 14".There is about a half inch space at each end so the coil is only about 13" long.

The PVC pipe I bought at homedepot you can buy a 12' pipe for under $4.

P.S. Doc just uploaded another video everyone should be very interested in.

[slayer007]

I was inspired by Dr Stiffler's last video.
I wanted to see if I could get my circuit to self run also.

I'm using a old PNP transistor a R 591-7419.
I have the polarity for the circuit reversed and I also have the emitter and collector connected backwards.
Running it backwards it will draw as low as 30 uA while it's running.
This way the fields very weak but it still has enought power to run and charge it's self.
When I first started the circuit it only had 116.4 mV in the capacitor but it's slowly charging it's self.

At the end of the video I switch the transistor back around and the led will dimly lit off 136 mV.


Here is the video.

YouTube - Self Running Exiter

[Xenomorph]

I was inspired by Dr Stiffler's last video.
I wanted to see if I could get my circuit to self run also.

I'm using a old PNP transistor a R 591-7419.
I have the polarity for the circuit reversed and I also have the emitter and collector connected backwards.
Running it backwards it will draw as low as 30 uA while it's running.
This way the fields very weak but it still has enought power to run and charge it's self.
When I first started the circuit it only had 116.4 mV in the capacitor but it's slowly charging it's self.

At the end of the video I switch the transistor back around and the led will dimly lit off 136 mV.


Here is the video.

YouTube - Self Running Exiter

Slayer,
how about pre-charging the cap off a battery to a higher voltage and then running it only off that cap but at a higher voltage than in the millivolt range?
Keep it up.

[xee2]

@ slayer007

Your results keep getting more and more amazing. What video from Dr Stiffler were you refering to?