Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[jimboot]

@Johnnydarvo luvyawork. I'll be trying that on one of my Rodin pulse motors.

[jonnydavro]

@totoalas.Hi .Use the 2nd circuit to run the motor in the same way as in the vid.Just add a capasitor across the output and motor.
The efficient rectifier circuit spins the motor on less input to the slayer circuit than a bridge rectifier made from 4148 diodes but the single transistor rectifier will spin the motor on the least input to the slayer exciter.
If you try the efficient rectifier circuit.Make sure you use two 4148 diodes and one 5408 diodes.I have uploaded the circuit diagrams to my previous post for easier reference.Cheers.Jonny

[ricksl]

well after a month of procrastination i finally took pics of my slayer exciter and put it back together ya know. i show my mini slayer with the ferrite rod attached to a novelty garbage can and then a fluorescent tube is resting between it and a slinky happily lit up. apologies for the bag pictures my camera dosn't work well with no flash and thats the only way to see the lights

the battery is 8 rechargeable D cells in series to make about 12 volts but with how long ive been using it- im sure the voltage has dropped to significantly less. any way i have two neons lighting up off of some metal contacts on the battery terminals with two alligator leads just going off into space attached to the other ends of the neons. in the next pic i have 32 small red leds in series and an av plug connected to a piece of metal just sitting on the batteries with no electrical contact.

so yeah i know its a little dated but either way. side note i was able to run it without a ferrite rod but when it rand like that it was touchier and wouldn't light up a tube only av plugs but power consumption went down.

[totoalas]

Go jonny go !! go !!!! lol
This can run my rotor marvelous :
How about the last circuit on your video its application????

cheers

totoalas

[jonnydavro]

Hi.Here is a way to rectify high voltage using just a transistor.
It will step down the voltage and step up the current from a slayer exciter and use it to run a DC motor wirelessly.
The transistor is switched via an ariel which recieves rf energy from the L1 coil.Jonny
YouTube - Single transistor rectification of HV, HF AC




@Slider.You are on a roll manThe plasma speaker vids are amazing and something I have wanted to try for a long time but I can only get plasma with my pop bottle coil at 240mA with an mpsa06 and they don't last long at that draw so your high performance small coils are a must replication.Have you tried upping the voltage to see if the plama increases?
I wonder if it would work with my Bedini exciter?
I have also replicated the wireless phone charging but i want to do more tests regarding the charge the phone is actually getting.Jonny
@SuperCaviTationIstic.I have not heard of anyone linking transformers like that.Could be an interesting experimentJonny

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

Has anyone used 2 separate transformers tied together with the basic 1 transistor feedback design? Tie the secondaries together in series, and the the primary windings on the transformers are primary and feedback. Then you can experiment with putting the magnetic fields of the two transformers in aiding. bucking, or rotating orientations

[totoalas]

Generotor

There is a new version with a how to at the end. YouTube - Mopozco's Channel

Thanks Xee2
I need all the info i can get
Slayer ... economically fit for the 3rd world great design
This generotor can be ou thru this forum

cheers

totoalas


YouTube - Generotor 284011.avi

[xee2]

YouTube - radiant-energy


Replicators please


totoalas

There is a new version with a how to at the end. YouTube - Mopozco's Channel

[Slider2732]

I'm really sorry that meter problems are how they are. I do need to fix that situ, so will look at them again today. The Radio Shack yellow one will come on, but flashes 0.0L and that's about it, it will only do that at a midway point between settings too. Could be of major benefit to me too, because if you find something out and I can replicate, we have confirmed data of whatever it is. Right now mostly people have different coils and much has to be in 'ballpark' language. Even the excellent Jonnydavro pop bottles will be somewhat different to each other.

To perhaps wet the appetite if you like the audio ability ideas of the Walgreen...
Here we have the same tower and setup as other vids, with diode on the output replaced by a simple piece of thicker wire, playing the Star Wars Imperial March.
Again, much stronger output than the last video

YouTube - Micro Tesla tower plays Star Wars Imperial March

Of interest because -
It's a replication in a different way ! A YouTube video of a Tesla coil playing the tune was fed out to my tower. The original video is here: YouTube - Arcattack: Faraday Fun- Imperial March

[xee2]

I know about the 1ohm x2 sat on an analog needle meter though...if I did that, would it give decent enough results ?

I knew you had limited working meters. I had hoped at least one was working. I do not think the analog meter will work. I will have to keep experimenting. Thanks for showing that it is possible.

PS - I have had the same problem with replacing batteries in meters. I finally bought a Radio Shack 22-813 meter which only needs three AA batteries (and they last years).

[Slider2732]

@Jim - The music comes from the plasma
It is THE most head messing thing and has to be experienced !
In an electrical storm, the thunder sound is, I believe, the ripping through the air by the lightning. What we're doing is akin to frequency modulating continuous lightning ! Some rigs are so loud with such audio as to be uncomfortable to listen to...here's a great demo of what happens when scaled up:
YouTube - Zelda played on Twin Musical Tesla coils
On top now is a diode, a random bigger short wire, to widen the plasma punch. However, for giggles you may say, the diode is connected backwards...the plasma still leaps through it.
Here's a little story that also created a mind wrap inside out and back to front - ya know the talking that didn't really go too well on the first video ? (better in person) I got the voice from a language translations website and the one that worked best for a short sentence was called Jennifer. On finding that out, I wrote out the somewhat HAL type speech, then after some time changed the voice to different ones...well, it wasn't the same, was like an imitation of the 'personality' the coil had taken on, inefficiencies and all !
My wife said I have to get out more lol

@xee2 - agh, hmm, I have very little test equipment. Most of everything is done through trial and error. Been very unlucky with meters from yard sales. The new meter I got from Radio Shack a couple of years back needed a 12V non standard battery for which I didn't have funds, so got used with a wall adapter..til it failed in a lightning storm. My Virtua Racing arcade machine got fried then, as did battery rechargers and even things that weren't plugged in to the wall. That was 2 years back and we're still finding things that now don't work!!! Tell ya though, the fizzz noise as the bolt struck right next to the house was incredible.
The KN2222A is another alternative and as used on the speaker experiments (rubbish wired as Darlingtons though). A great all rounder and allows loose and messy primary winds of 2 or 3 turns for plasma. If you see my audio vids and where the coil is, it's just dropped down over the tower. The KN would seem to be superior to the 2N version of that transistor...if indeed they are related.
I know about the 1ohm x2 sat on an analog needle meter though...if I did that, would it give decent enough results ?

[xee2]

@ Slider2732

I found a 2N7000 and it works but does not produce plasma for me. I tried duplicating your L2 coil as close as possible. Please post your L1 coil resistance if you can. That may allow me to work out what size wire you are using. That is the only difference I can think of between our circuits.

[jimboot]

...and now things are much better
I cut a foam cup in half and joined them end upon end, to form a speaker surround. The audio is much improved.
It now has sound to light too, in the form of an energy saver bulb that flashes to the beats.
Music is Kraftwerk - Pocket Calculator

YouTube - Micro plasma tower plays Kraftwerk

Heheh. Where is the audio coming from? Is it actually coming off the coil itself? Do you detect it vibrating?

[jimboot]

I hooked up an av plug to my scope probes tonight. My 4" tower does not do electrolysis as well as my mini exciter with a ferrite core that i got from a crystal radio kit. I was curious since the 4" has a massive field comparison and lights a 40watt 4' cfl. According to my scope the 4" oscillates at 1.5mhz whilst the crystal radio coil oscilates at 3.13mhz. I then tried another two coils. One with the same wire as the 4" (0.28mm) and one with much finer wire that looks about 0.15mm. I got it from rechargeable hand crank torches. Both were wound on a 19mm dia and both hand higher frequencies. The finer wire wound on 19mm at about 40mm height gave me a frequency of 5mhz. it does electrolysis a lot better than any other coil but the field is quite weak. Btw im simply attaching the end of the primary to the anode of a 4148diode and immersing the entire diode in the water. No copper tape on the outside of the glass. Also the smaller coils do not give plasma. All these measurements were taken whilst using the h945 from a PC power supply.

[Slider2732]

...and now things are much better
I cut a foam cup in half and joined them end upon end, to form a speaker surround. The audio is much improved.
It now has sound to light too, in the form of an energy saver bulb that flashes to the beats.
Music is Kraftwerk - Pocket Calculator

YouTube - Micro plasma tower plays Kraftwerk