Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[kcarring]

@All

I have been successful in making small amounts of Hydrogen with my SEC, has anyone made any useful amounts and if so how did you set it up?

I have aluminum foil warped around the bottom of a mason jar and using two diodes to make the Hydrogen. Very small amounts.

-Altrez

I never did see the revolution in this method. Maybe I don't get it. I've seen my homemade batteries with 1.1v and milliamp capacity put out more bubbles.

[seth]

exciter problems

hi!

my exciter has been in a bad way recently - i cant get the same performance as i used to from my favourite IRF 830. Other transistors are working fine and in the way they always did, and on larger input voltages also.....but the IRF 830 just doesnt want to get resonating. When i test the field with a light, the high voltage is only HALF way up the coil. What am i doing wrong? I tried moving the primary a little higher but it hasnt helped. I know you lot live and breathe exciters, so i thought you might have had similar problems and know the answers already. Thanks in advance for any help

PS ive shown a teenager at the school i work in how to build an exciter - hes using an IRF830 and its working great! He loves it But i cant help but feel a tiny bit envious that his one works and mine doesnt anymore!!!

[altrez]

@All

I have been successful in making small amounts of Hydrogen with my SEC, has anyone made any useful amounts and if so how did you set it up?

I have aluminum foil warped around the bottom of a mason jar and using two diodes to make the Hydrogen. Very small amounts.

-Altrez

[altrez]

I was informed I missed the most important pointer to using the small transistor radio antenna coils. What is important about this page is that it shows how one can simulate an Exciter with a simple signal generator and coil and is one of the best ways to get up to speed when building the Doctors circuits.

Spatial Energy Conversion

Yep I have built that circuit and tested with my Signal Generator and it works as accepted.

The issue I am having is I don't have a spectrum Analyzer to verify that I am hitting coherence.

-Altrez

[conradphd]

Hey thanks for sharing. I have one of his version 18 SEC Exciters and it really is neat. I have not conducted many experiments with it as of yet. I need to get the proper gear to test it.

I can say that it is very well built.

-Altrez

I was informed I missed the most important pointer to using the small transistor radio antenna coils. What is important about this page is that it shows how one can simulate an Exciter with a simple signal generator and coil and is one of the best ways to get up to speed when building the Doctors circuits.

Spatial Energy Conversion

[altrez]

You can find additional info on using the antenna coils from early work of Dr. Stiffler. A side note is that to do one-wire transmission over great distance and to light many tens of LED's or FL's one does not need large coils and in fact a single turn for the secondary works just fine. You can obtain much info from the following links.

For antenna coils SEC Special Coil
For single turn secondary SEC Driver Circuits

Hey thanks for sharing. I have one of his version 18 SEC Exciters and it really is neat. I have not conducted many experiments with it as of yet. I need to get the proper gear to test it.

I can say that it is very well built.

-Altrez

[altrez]

Here is an easy way to make a Slayer Exciter if you don't want to wind a big coil.

The L1 is a Ferrite Loopstick Antenna Coil for a crystal radio.
The L2 Primary is 9 turn of 23 awg mag wire.

The circuit is just the basic slayer exciter with a 1M resistor and a mpsa06 transistor.


YouTube - Miniature Slayer Exciter

Thanks for the post. Looks good.

[conradphd]

Additional Coil Info

You can find additional info on using the antenna coils from early work of Dr. Stiffler. A side note is that to do one-wire transmission over great distance and to light many tens of LED's or FL's one does not need large coils and in fact a single turn for the secondary works just fine. You can obtain much info from the following links.

For antenna coils SEC Special Coil
For single turn secondary SEC Driver Circuits

[slayer007]

Here is an easy way to make a Slayer Exciter if you don't want to wind a big coil.

The L1 is a Ferrite Loopstick Antenna Coil for a crystal radio.
The L2 Primary is 9 turn of 23 awg mag wire.

The circuit is just the basic slayer exciter with a 1M resistor and a mpsa06 transistor.


YouTube - Miniature Slayer Exciter

[altrez]

YPersonally i do not think these are overunity devices, now that I've built one... .

I think its really hard to define what OverUnity is. I feel that some SEC exciters do show some signs of a COP > 1. Its only through the hard work of independent experimenters that we will ever know for sure.



-Altrez

[altrez]

You'll have no problems, especially if you don't try to go as small as I did. I think you'll find real good performance in a Seth/Jiffycoil approach. jonnydavros Simple SEC III is really cool too. Personally i do not think these are overunity devices, now that I've built one... I do think though, they give you wonderful not-before-available benefits such as one wire power transmission, wireless power, dimming, and unusual load arrangements. If you have any need to "stretch your lighting dollar" in a green house, for example... this is real neat stuff. Not too mention it's just fun... to build, it is indeed.

Well a Tesla coil can already do all of that! They have been able to light lights an do one wire transmissions / wireless power for over a 100 years.. And the more I work on this little circuit the more it feels like it is a solid state Tesla Coil. That's why I really need a Spectrum Analyzer to see if its hitting the upper Bands. And yes it is really fun to play with

-Altrez

[kcarring]

@kcarring

Ok that's cool, Looks great for a first attempt. I have not been able to light a tube as of yet, but I just ordered 1000 foot of 25awg wire and feel confident that I will soon have one lit!

-Altrez

You'll have no problems, especially if you don't try to go as small as I did. I think you'll find real good performance in a Seth/Jiffycoil approach. jonnydavros Simple SEC III is really cool too. Personally i do not think these are overunity devices, now that I've built one... I do think though, they give you wonderful not-before-available benefits such as one wire power transmission, wireless power, dimming, and unusual load arrangements. If you have any need to "stretch your lighting dollar" in a green house, for example... this is real neat stuff. Not too mention it's just fun... to build, it is indeed.

[altrez]

@kcarring

Ok that's cool, Looks great for a first attempt. I have not been able to light a tube as of yet, but I just ordered 1000 foot of 25awg wire and feel confident that I will soon have one lit!

-Altrez

[kcarring]

Nice work! How much wire did you use on your coil? And where do you get 1 Watt Fluorescent lights?

Honestly... this was an experiment to just get me rolling. The Magneticitist created the absolute simplest circuit he could for me, shot a video and pretty much walked me through it. I didn't pay any particular attention to the number of winds - but - it is only about 2 3/4" of windings @ 30guage wire. Not much. My 5 wind pancake primary is very poor loosely wound group of probably 22 guage wire up 5/8" from the bottom. It took me maybe an hour the whole thing.

As for the fluorescent bulbs, I lucked into those. I got them for $0.10 ea., on a hardware liquadation table. They are called Malibu by Intermatic LZ1WU. Originally from a solar lamp setup, but I don't own a lamp. I guess they were pretty expensive outdoor solar lamps, and didn't survive in the marketplace due to their $50 price tag.

Thanks
Kyle

[kcarring]

10 inch diametre!!

Im envious - i really wanna build another coil on that kind of size pipe. If i see any at the plumbing shop ill definitely buy one and get winding. I cant wait to see your results anyhow, so keep us posted. My PVC, by the way, is 10.8cm diametre.

24 guage is what i used too. for the primary i used copper and iron with little difference in performance.

@johnny - have fun with the ion spinners!! I have no doubt whatsoever that you'll get them working in a matter of minutes Dont forget to make a video so i can see - im really interested in your opinion about the IRF 830.

6,8 and 10" pipe is easy to come buy, just go to an excavation company who specializes in road work. They are constantly cutting up city mains, and are left over with 1,2, and 3' sections of schedule 40 / 80. If you ask nicely they will hang on to a piece for you. Best place is right on site, as it generally is laying all over the place. My approach is, you walk up while they are obviously on a coffee break and you pick out the foreman, and ask kindly (a box of donuts can help here too...) if you could contribute to their beer fund buy purchasing a leftover unused pipe section (while you hold a $20). It really is worth a lot of cash, this stuff, especially considering you have to buy a set length, you usually cannot just buy it by the foot.

Cheers