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  • Jiffy Coil a la CD Wireless

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    Hi To All
    Jiffy / Slayer thanks again for the pancake design
    @14 v dc 460 ma very strong plasma and 10 cm wireless transmission
    29 awg 3mm thick on a cd case coiler 10 cm dia
    1.5 mm stranded plastic insulated 12 cm outside dia ( on a cd) 6 turns
    cannot touch the output of L1
    TIP 42c NPN 1M transistor
    I think we can still reduce the coil to a coin????????????
    cheers
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    1 aa cellphone charger L2 12 t 2.5 mm plastic insulated stranded 130 ma with 1 M resistor
    With 689 ohms 250 ma with 8 w fl lamp load
    totoalas
    Last edited by totoalas; 11-07-2010, 12:07 PM.

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    • I posted these results previously, but I am re-posting for comparison with the pancake coil circuits. I have not made a pancake coil to compare the two directly. But, from my notes and posts that others have made, this design seems to have similar performance to the pancake coil and is easier to make. However, I found it was difficult to find a good turns ratio for the coil. Maybe it is easier to get the pancake coil design to work.





      Last edited by xee2; 11-06-2010, 12:58 PM.

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      • Voltage Swapper

        http://www.energeticforum.com/115329-post16.html
        I'll try to make a drawing later tonight, I would like to try this as well with a simple exciter circuit, as simple as possible so I can get some results quickly as an indication. I really don't know if it would work. Maybe someone with an exciter could try a small experiment soon ?
        Here's the vid- YouTube - AlternateFarmhand1's Channel

        I'll try to make time tommorow to demonstrate the function of the battery swapper on a couple of good batteries, I have a load dump set up but it's only two fans, if the sun is out they might get fried if they can't handle 18 volts.



        Quote from Farmhand above

        Hi to all



        there is a request from this thrEAD if we can try his circuit on the Slayer

        Any input is welcome

        cheers
        totoalas

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        • Hi totoalas, If somebody could try a simple set up similar to this for a very quick test to see if an exciter will charge the cap. Any old slap up arrangement will do, maybe somebody has already done a plate charge test.
          I forgot to draw it but a diode may be needed between the plate and cap. Or a bridge.


          Thanks

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          • simple apparatus to detect the right point on coil

            Hi all

            always working on all those coil and the Slayer Xter i tested a good and simple way to find where the coil is at it's best.

            An electric testing screwdriver that you hold in your finger and you simply go up and down the coil and you see exactly where is the best working point. The neon light work also but much less precisely and the led on AV is very difficult to judge objectively and my scope probe is totaly unusefull as the trace completly crazy and out of range.

            Just for info my conical Slayer coil (L1) can be easily excited by a a pancake coil underneath and give also great results. So perhaps that a conical coil has also the same advantage than the flat pancake . Just to think


            my 2 cents for today

            Laurent
            Last edited by woopy; 01-26-2011, 10:47 AM.

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            • Originally posted by woopy View Post
              Just for info my conical Slayer coil (L1) can be easily excited by a a pancake coil underneath and give also great results.
              I bet it took a long time to wind that coil (looks hard to do). Thanks for posting your results.

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              • Originally posted by woopy View Post
                Hi all

                always working on all those coil and the Slayer Xter i tested a good and simple way to find where the coil is at it's best.

                An electric testing screwdriver that you hold in your finger and you simply go up and down the coil and you see exactly where is the best working point. The neon light work also but much less precisely and the led on AV is very difficult to judge objectively and my scope probe is totaly unusefull as the trace completly crazy and out of range.

                Just for info my conical Slayer coil (L1) can be easily excited by a a pancake coil underneath and give also great results. So perhaps that a conical coil has also the same advantage than the flat pancake . Just to think


                my 2 cents for today

                Laurent

                @Beautiful work Woopy,
                You have spent some time winding many coils lately. The information gathered form your experiments helps us all.

                @Xee2
                I need to wind a coil like the one you posted. It will be good to see how they work. Thanks for posting that.

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                • Puck Lights

                  Hi Jiffy
                  nice output from your puck lights
                  My replication of your puck coil
                  @ 14 volts tip 42c and ! k resistor 460 ma
                  the end of the pancake L1 had a half cm plasma along the wires touchng anything metal burned the loop coil at the end and a different smell of the plasma when i chaned to 1 meg resistor the output was tamed and no more blue output 140 ma

                  cheers
                  totoalas

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                  • Originally posted by Farmhand View Post
                    Hi totoalas, If somebody could try a simple set up similar to this for a very quick test to see if an exciter will charge the cap. Any old slap up arrangement will do, maybe somebody has already done a plate charge test.
                    I forgot to draw it but a diode may be needed between the plate and cap. Or a bridge.


                    Thanks
                    I just got hold of the 2uf cap and will try on the weekend with the slayer coils incuding the pancake

                    cheers

                    totoalas

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                    • Hi totoalas, I've been a little bit distracted, I should have mentioned that a larger cap would be ok it's just to test, I thought with a small cap if the effect is weak or strong or non exsitant it will be easy to tell.

                      Thank you.

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                      • Originally posted by totoalas View Post
                        L1 had a half cm plasma along the wires touchng anything metal
                        Smoking good performance. I hope you will post some pictures.

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                        • pancake coil vs. solenoid

                          @ Jiffycoil

                          You have probably already done this, but I compared the inductance of a pancake coil and a solenoid (both using the same length of wire) and it seems that the pancake coil produces about 50% more inductance than a solenoid. More inductance equals more voltage. I guess that is why they work so well.

                          equations at:

                          Wheeler Formulas for inductance

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                          • @Xee2
                            Thanks for the formulas and the comparison. I'll run these coil numbers.

                            Thanks again

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                            • Originally posted by Jiffycoil View Post
                              @Xee2
                              Thanks for the formulas and the comparison. I'll run these coil numbers.

                              Thanks again
                              If you want to calculate inductance of pancake coil try this calculator (makes it easier).

                              Flat Spiral Coil Calculator

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                              • Pancake Booster

                                Originally posted by xee2 View Post
                                Smoking good performance. I hope you will post some pictures.
                                Hi Xee2
                                I think the reason for the strong plasma output and a different smell from the air like ionization was I run the center end wire across the flat coils instead
                                of isolating it from the coils
                                I opened up my coils and black spots on the loose ends touch the flat coils



                                Using tip 42c and 1 k resistor 560 ma 14 v dc
                                Conclusion
                                Running the output wire of L1 somehow caused to increase the output energy
                                from the pancake coil

                                Ps (DO TRY this at home LOL

                                cheers

                                totoalas
                                Last edited by totoalas; 11-10-2010, 09:59 PM.

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