Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[theremart]

Nice charger Slayer,

kazm this is what I was talking about.
In this video I have a cell phone charger running a joule thief.
That JT is filling the big 4400uf capacitor thats also charging a 12v 7.5 ah battery and running a SEC 15.
There is a diode comming off the capacitor to charge the 12v battery.
There is also a tower connected to the cell phone charger case thats charging ten more AA batteries.

The setup will run for around eight hours while lighting the light and charge the batteries.
After that I can just replace the cell phone charger battery with one of the ten other batteries.

Here is the video.
YouTube - Cell Phone Charger plus JT and SEC 15.mov

What is the voltage on the cap?

[slayer007]

What is the voltage on the cap?

In the video the voltage in the cap was just under 14v.

[Lidmotor]

The water tower

@All
This just keep getting more and more interesting. Today by accident I discovered that a tall glass of water can act like a SEC receiver tower. Here is the video of it:
YouTube - Pan Oscillator with Water Tower.ASF
I am really hooked now on using these one AA cell phone chargers as the power source. My solar ones work well also but the (1) AA is my favorite because, just like Slayer showed--- you can cycle the battery with the ones that are being charged up.



Lidmotor

[jeanna]

water mistake!

Wow, another great one.
I love the mistakes we make!!

I asked about how good the frequency feels today but I am also curious about the av plug.
I want to get this straight, please.
Did you say you dip the twisted end of the 2 diodes into the water and the lights go on?
And all the other lights stay on this time?

Amazing,

thanks,

jeanna

[Lidmotor]

Lets go for a dip!

Wow, another great one.
I love the mistakes we make!!

I asked about how good the frequency feels today but I am also curious about the av plug.
I want to get this straight, please.
Did you say you dip the twisted end of the 2 diodes into the water and the lights go on?
And all the other lights stay on this time?

Amazing,

thanks,

jeanna

Yes. All you do is dip the twisted end of the AV plug into the water. You have to add a ground path out (your hand, a wire attached to a metal mass, or an earth ground). In the video experiment I think that I just attached the ground wire to a place on the led string. It can go on the negative of the AV plug as it comes out of the led string. If you place the glass of water near the HV lead then you can light up a neon by sticking one it's legs in the water. You feel no sensation at all when you do it. Adding a load (more lights) dims the other lights usually, but does not add more of an amp draw on the battery.



Lidmotor

[jonnydavro]

@Kazm.Hi You are doing some great experiments.Adding the extra mass was particulary interesting and the joulethief starting the sec may mean that a high performance jt like jenna's torroid may also work as a SEC interface.Thanks for shareing your experiments. Jonny.
@Slayer.Nice vid and ideas's with the charger running a jt.What are the specs on the transformer you are using in the jt?.It looks like it works great and im all for ready made jt coils.
You are also getting a lot of light from your setup.That 4w looks really bright. Do you think this light could be used in conjunction with lidmotors solar phone charger and maybe incorporate this somehow?
I like the direction you are going with this slayer and the fact that you are charging so many batteries and using only one has got to make you wonder don't you think?Nice work.Jonny.
@Lidmotor.Great work Lidmotor.You had a fair bit going on in your latest vid but i find the water discovery really exciting and all great finds are accidents but this could lead to some great things like you alluded to on utube with the possability of one wire transmision using water and if that works i hope you haven't got any copper investments
Regarding the led board in the water experiment.How important is the virtual ground?and can it support more than one load and do you think these water towers could be linked with a pipe?
In your vid you mention the charge rate was slow with Dr stifflers batt charger of the phone charger body but i was thinking about this and you maybe able to use a resonant reciever circuit here by using two pickup's,one each side of the charger but not touching or use insulation or maybe place one near the positive rail and feed each pickup into another 10kv trigger coil and feed the hv output to the av plug.
Thanks for shareing you work with us LidmotorJonny.

[slayer007]

@Kazm.Hi You are doing some great experiments.Adding the extra mass was particulary interesting and the joulethief starting the sec may mean that a high performance jt like jenna's torroid may also work as a SEC interface.Thanks for shareing your experiments. Jonny.
@Slayer.Nice vid and ideas's with the charger running a jt.What are the specs on the transformer you are using in the jt?.It looks like it works great and im all for ready made jt coils.
You are also getting a lot of light from your setup.That 4w looks really bright. Do you think this light could be used in conjunction with lidmotors solar phone charger and maybe incorporate this somehow?
I like the direction you are going with this slayer and the fact that you are charging so many batteries and using only one has got to make you wonder don't you think?Nice work.Jonny.
@Lidmotor.Great work Lidmotor.You had a fair bit going on in your latest vid but i find the water discovery really exciting and all great finds are accidents but this could lead to some great things like you alluded to on utube with the possability of one wire transmision using water and if that works i hope you haven't got any copper investments
Regarding the led board in the water experiment.How important is the virtual ground?and can it support more than one load and do you think these water towers could be linked with a pipe?
In your vid you mention the charge rate was slow with Dr stifflers batt charger of the phone charger body but i was thinking about this and you maybe able to use a resonant reciever circuit here by using two pickup's,one each side of the charger but not touching or use insulation or maybe place one near the positive rail and feed each pickup into another 10kv trigger coil and feed the hv output to the av plug.
Thanks for shareing you work with us LidmotorJonny.

Thanks Jonny

The transformer is from an old pc power supply.I have another one around that still has the part # on it I'll look around and see if I can find it.
It wont put out a lot of voltage around 120v max.
But the current it puts out is amazing.

I also thought it was amazing that it can charge all them batteries up using only one AA battery.
And still light the light very bright.

EDIT part# liteon 37-c5181102

[theremart]

Thanks Slayer

In the video the voltage in the cap was just under 14v.

Kool.

I tried this setup with my 2n3055 joule Theif to a 3.5 Farad cap, it ran for some time but took 2 AA batteries to run it.

I have put on order for the aa cell phone charger. that combined with the sec is a real winner from watching your and lid's videos.

[Lidmotor]

Water electrolysis

@All
Dr. Stiffler suggested that I try water electrolysis with my water glass setup and I did. He has a new video posted showing basically how to do it. This really really makes me wonder about this energy we are dealing with. The electrolysis happens as the energy passes through the water and right out the other side. That isn't the way that it usually works. Usually the energy goes into the water and is used up splitting the water apart. This method also uses distilled water with no electrolyte. If you add an electrolyte (like lye) to improve the conductivity---it kills the effect.
I tried daisy chaining bowls of water together with one wire between them and that worked. I also tried filling a lenght of plastic tubing with water and capping the ends with a steel machine screw. The energy ran through the tube like it was a wire. I may have created the world's first "water wire". If there was just one air bubble in the tubing the effect would not work. It was just like an open connection in a copper wire.
Here is some of what I did today.

YouTube - Pan oscillator---water electrolysis.ASF

Lidmotor

[sigzidfit]

Avramenko's voltage doubler

I've been experimenting with the joule thief and thought I'd make a video for you all.

YouTube - teslaswitch's webcam video January 15, 2010, 08:46 PM

Here's the page referenced in the video:
Resonance methods of electric power transmission

There's a pic of him powering a toy boat using water as the medium for transmission 'ala Lidmotor. Haha.

Peace
PJ

[slayer007]

Kool.

I tried this setup with my 2n3055 joule Theif to a 3.5 Farad cap, it ran for some time but took 2 AA batteries to run it.

I have put on order for the aa cell phone charger. that combined with the sec is a real winner from watching your and lid's videos.

Theremart the JT really seems to make a big difference.
Yesterday I let it run most of the day 11 hours.I had the jt turned down just a little so the cfl wasn't quite at full brightness.
After 11 hours the battery voltage went from 1.40 to 1.20 after running 11 hours.
The Jt really helps to keep the power consuption down.

[CaptainScat]

does anyone have a schematic for the circuit inside the aa cell phone charger? thanks.

[slayer007]

does anyone have a schematic for the circuit inside the aa cell phone charger? thanks.

CaptainScat I thought it might just be a joule thief circuit in it.But it's a little more than that.
I looked around on the internet but I couldn't find a circuit for it.
But the good news you can buy them off ebay for under $7.50.
I dont think you could even make one for that cheap and it also comes with 12 cell phone attachments for different phones.

Search ebay for (emergency cell phone charger)

[Vortex]

Lidmotor and ALL

water electrolysis .. Quote:"means their is current"
Ok, this power field is strong and large.
So is the magnetic field of the "One magnet no bearing Bedini motor"
strong and large.

What effects might be observed around this power field with a
"One magnet no bearing Bedini motor" running close by?

Does it effect the water electrolysis?
Does it ill-effect the power field?

Just a curious thought .. these two fields intermingling ...

PJ, nice find about the Circuit of voltage doubling (a) and
circuit of monophase input of three-phase bridge rectifier (b).

just thinking
randy

[Lidmotor]

Cell phone charger circuit

does anyone have a schematic for the circuit inside the aa cell phone charger? thanks.

I did some hunting on the web for it also and found a chip and a circuit diagram for it at Mouser. Here is the chip that I think would work and the circuit diagram for getting it to work. It takes a few capacitors and an inductor wired to the chip to complete the circuit. The chip costs about $3 and if you add in the cost of the other parts, then the ready made Ebay cell phone charger makes more sense cost wise like Slayer says.

http://www.diodes.com/datasheets/AP1603.pdf

It still might be fun to get one of these chips and build up the circuit.

@sigzidfit
I enjoyed reading that article and the info on one wire power transmission was very interesting. Thanks.

@ Slayer
I think that your JT setup is the way to go. That is my next thing to try.

Lidmotor