Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[kazm]

Please let me know when you find a way to light a filament bulb (even a tiny one) with the current that flows in the AV-plug's branches.
;-)

@slayer007 - great circuit i've been tinkering with this since you posted it! i matched your "simple exciter" circuit diagram (530u L1 counter clockwise, 4u L2 clockwise, 1N4148 diodes, 2N222 transistor, 1K resistor). My 2N222 isn't getting hot at all, but I added a second transistor since it boosts both the one-wire and wireless output. I'm getting the same behaviors seen in yours and lidmotor's videos (lighting CFL/Neon/LED bulbs and AV plugs, seeing local area excitation of objects, water effects).

@All - I've found one thing I'm able to do that I couldn't with jonny's circuit, I'm able to light a small filament bulb by connecting it's positive to the L1 output and it's negative to the aluminum tape on the cellphone charger casing. I tried it with a larger filament bulb but couldn't get that one to light (both bulbs are shown in the attached image). Not sure how significant this is, the bulb lights to the same brightness when connected directly to the charger output so this is sort of a round-about way of doing the same thing. I was surprised it would work this way though and would be interested to hear any thoughts or comments.

cheers,
kazm

[marxist]

Wonderful progress by all

Hi kazm,
;-)
But will this kill the wireless effect? or does the charged field still persist, when you pull that trick?
Well, I can try it myself, I guess, but watching you guys is just too exciting ...

In case the charged field collapses, as the filament bulb gobbles up all the HV from the top of the long coil, ...
maybe one can connect two identical tuned pairs of coils in parallel:
- one L1 feeding a filament bulb or other inductive resistor(s) as in your photo, while
- the other excites the environment
!?

I also like slayer's idea of several concentrically nested L1 coils inside each other.
As long as they all have the same resonant frequency or harmonics of it, I think they will boost/aid/add to each others output, rather than waisting energy fighting each other.
But that will surely require a lot of tuning (or knowledge of the related maths - which I don't have).

[kazm]

Hi kazm,
;-)
But will this kill the wireless effect? or does the charged field still persist, when you pull that trick?
Well, I can try it myself, I guess, but watching you guys is just too exciting ...

Both this and jonny's simple sec let you choose how much stays in the circuit and how much gets broadcast wirelessly based on how you configure it. That particular setup funnels almost all the energy down the one-wire into the filament. However, by adding an excitation point (i.e. stainless steel tray) in between the negative of the filament and the foil on the battery i got more wireless output without any visible reduction in light on the filament. I also increased the light output of my AV plug by adding a 10kv trigger coil between my AV plug and it's ground tray (tried the 4kv trigger coils but they did nothing).

Cheers,
kazm

[slayer007]

@ Lidmotor
Great video as alsways.

@Kazm
It looks like your having some great results also.
Thank you for sharing your results.

@All
I'v been tring differant coil setups.
Right now I'm having great results with two L1 coils(going to be three later today).But if you put one L1 coil inside the other(or more) it multiples the voltage.
Also if your using more that 3V on your setup do the tap start.
The tap start is when you connect the 1k resistor to the transistors base for a sec then disconnect it.The exiter will stay running if it's tuned right.
Also compress the L2 coil all most like a pancake coil so it's more compressed.
And fucused on a certain spot on the L1 coil.

[marxist]

sorry to have started confusion

Hi Lidmotor,
in your video
YouTube - Slayer Exciter with large coil.ASF
you state that the outer and inner coil have to be wound in opposite direction.
But I think this is not so.

Being insecure, I must have started some confusion, when I initially asked slayer about the winding direction of the coils. I just didn't want to do something wrong.

However, I have just now proved to myself, that the winding direction is not critical, if the ends of the outer coil are connected to the correct electrical polarity (i.e. to plus and to minus).
I did the following:
As I am presently working with an outer coil of just 5 turns (heavy gauge magnet wire) it was no problem to wind two outer coils with identical length of wire and number of turns, for comparison: one with same direction as the inner coil and one with opposing winding direction. I found that they both work, together with the same inner coil.
But each only when connected with the right polarity
edit:
my above statement seems to be disproved, see jonnydavro's posting
regarding coil polarity
posting 260

[slayer007]

Here is another short video of another coil test.
I just wanted to document this coil test because it is working so well.
I didn't show it in the video but when you tutch the battery it extends the field even more making the lights brighter.
People be carefull with this thing it bites I got a couple good rf burns off it.
It's not a shock but it's like someone tutched you with a lit cigarette.

Once my test are done I'll upload the circuit with all the specs.

Here is the video.

YouTube - Exiter Coil Test 2

[everwiser]

I've been following all these various developments for some time now and it's all very exciting. Excellent vid Slayer. One question I have surrounding most of these developments, "Are there any health concerns with all these radiating fields?"

The circuits are small enough that one could build point-of-use devices to light up fluorescents on a 1.5V rechargeable batteries and save a bundle on electricity costs (although lighting is probably the smallest portion of one's electric bill) and/or reduce the capacity needed for off-grid apps.

Great work guys!

[slayer007]

I've been following all these various developments for some time now and it's all very exciting. Excellent vid Slayer. One question I have surrounding most of these developments, "Are there any health concerns with all these radiating fields?"

The circuits are small enough that one could build point-of-use devices to light up fluorescents on a 1.5V rechargeable batteries and save a bundle on electricity costs (although lighting is probably the smallest portion of one's electric bill) and/or reduce the capacity needed for off-grid apps.

Great work guys!

I have felt no ill effects from this circuit.
Accept if you tutch the end of the coil when your holding a cfl.
You will get a good rf burn but it's not to bad.

[Lidmotor]

Slayer Exciter--With ferrite rod tuneable inductor

@ Slayer
I worked with several coil arrangements today and really wasn't happy with any of them until I tried a ferrite rod inside one. That did the trick. You can tune this now just like a SEC-15.

Here is the video of it:
YouTube - Slayer Exciter with tuneable inductor.ASF



Lidmotor

[slayer007]

@ Slayer
I worked with several coil arrangements today and really wasn't happy with any of them until I tried a ferrite rod inside one. That did the trick. You can tune this now just like a SEC-15.

Here is the video of it:
YouTube - Slayer Exciter with tuneable inductor.ASF



Lidmotor

Great Video.
I like how your using such low current and still getting a Great wireless effect.
I have tried a ferrite rod with this circuit awhile back.
But I wasn't getting as good a results as you are with it.
Thanks for showing this, it should help a lot of people with getting this going.

[CosmicFarmer]

@Dr Stiffler

Thank you for your patience with me! I still have a great respect for you and I just try to keep things lighthearted. Sometimes a "failure" might be a success in disguise, but thank you again for that clarifying schematic. You have so much information out there, just to catch up with where you are now would be a full time job. A happy one, but one that wouldn't pay the bills.

I appreciate all the work you have done with Panacea U.

Ive shown the SEC to dozens of people but no one seems to be really interested in it... Strange, how it fascinated me so completely, but its less then a party favor to other people... Its so subtly complex in its operation... maybe I need to get the motor setup working right and start burning some water before I get some interest in my project / your invention. ... so strange how people only follow the money. Can it make you money? they ask.. No I cant sell it! no I wont sell it! so they loose interest. So greedy the average person is... I'm starting to think the only way to save the world is to somehow plant a tree that grows money.

@ everwiser , safety of SEC.
I think the field from a SEC is safer for you then some people first believe. Listening to Dr.Stiffler explain how his radio went out when the sec went into some strange lock-up shows me that the RF from outside was being funneled away from the radio into the SEC device through near-field . Or thats my take on it. Of course if you have metal inside of you that is neccicary for you to live, like a pacemaker, then things get complicated for the electronics of that, but for people without implants, I think the sec field might actually protect you. However, I am interested in a RF absorption suit lined with silver, supposed to block 99% of RF from your body...

Anyway. Thanks again for your patience and much

[DrStiffler]

@Dr Stiffler

Thank you for your patience with me! I still have a great respect for you and I just try to keep things lighthearted. Sometimes a "failure" might be a success in disguise, but thank you again for that clarifying schematic. You have so much information out there, just to catch up with where you are now would be a full time job. A happy one, but one that wouldn't pay the bills.

I appreciate all the work you have done with Panacea U.

Ive shown the SEC to dozens of people but no one seems to be really interested in it... Strange, how it fascinated me so completely, but its less then a party favor to other people... Its so subtly complex in its operation... maybe I need to get the motor setup working right and start burning some water before I get some interest in my project / your invention. ... so strange how people only follow the money. Can it make you money? they ask.. No I cant sell it! no I wont sell it! so they loose interest. So greedy the average person is... I'm starting to think the only way to save the world is to somehow plant a tree that grows money.

@ everwiser , safety of SEC.
I think the field from a SEC is safer for you then some people first believe. Listening to Dr.Stiffler explain how his radio went out when the sec went into some strange lock-up shows me that the RF from outside was being funneled away from the radio into the SEC device through near-field . Or thats my take on it. Of course if you have metal inside of you that is neccicary for you to live, like a pacemaker, then things get complicated for the electronics of that, but for people without implants, I think the sec field might actually protect you. However, I am interested in a RF absorption suit lined with silver, supposed to block 99% of RF from your body...

Anyway. Thanks again for your patience and much

It is indeed a shame that many people can not think beyond what is already in front of their eyes. The ability to visualize rather than 'patronize ' would be a decide advantage in understanding that SEC is for the most part unlimited, Scalar in general.

I always go back to and side with a quote by Dr. P. Petersons wife about the educational systems, a somewhat caustic yet true view and twist on 'No child left behind', rather Dr. Peterson wife's saying as told by Dr Peterson is 'No child left with a mind'.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, Hi slayer, i replicated your simple circuit exciter setup with a long coil like yours i had built awhile back, i can light a 30 string of christmas led's to almost full brightness and a 3 watt fluoro tube. using 2n2222 a couple in parallel, though at 4.8 volts inout when outer 16 turn 18 gauge coil is tuned for max brightness on both the heat rises in transistors, already fried a couple. Will have to sort out this heat issue. Is the cell phone charger output straight dc like using my 4 nimh. Anyway thanks for the circuit, it has interesting effects.
peace love light
Tyson

[slayer007]

Hi folks, Hi slayer, i replicated your simple circuit exciter setup with a long coil like yours i had built awhile back, i can light a 30 string of christmas led's to almost full brightness and a 3 watt fluoro tube. using 2n2222 a couple in parallel, though at 4.8 volts inout when outer 16 turn 18 gauge coil is tuned for max brightness on both the heat rises in transistors, already fried a couple. Will have to sort out this heat issue. Is the cell phone charger output straight dc like using my 4 nimh. Anyway thanks for the circuit, it has interesting effects.
peace love light
Tyson

Hello SkyWatcher

Yes the cell phone chargers put out a little more than 5.5 v DC.
With my setup the transistors don't get hot at all.
But the current intake is still a little high around 60 to 140 mA.

You may also want to try disconnecting you resistor after it's started it might help with your heat issue.

Still tring differant coil setups but so far the one in my last video is the best so far.

[slayer007]

In this video I just wanted to show that you can run the lights and still capture the BEMF from the circuit without affecting the lights. It actually makes the lights a little brighter and it should reduce the current intake a little if you use the positive source for your negative charge.

Here is the video.
YouTube - Exiter BEMF Test.mov