Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, i have an idea and was wondering if anyone thinks this might be able to function in some way like Thane Heins perpetia generator. I am aware of his dual toroid model, could with the right frequency and such, could the secondary thicker wire wrapped over the fine gauge secondary provide power without reflecting back so much to our main self oscillating bifilar coil as does his mechanical version. The fine gauge secondary is short circuited upon itself. Let me hear your thoughts. Here is a pic of two different designs, though i'm sure many other designs are possible.
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/1...neheinidea.png
peace love light
Tyson

[Xenomorph]

Hi folks, i have an idea and was wondering if anyone thinks this might be able to function in some way like Thane Heins perpetia generator. I am aware of his dual toroid model, could with the right frequency and such, could the secondary thicker wire wrapped over the fine gauge secondary provide power without reflecting back so much to our main self oscillating bifilar coil as does his mechanical version. The fine gauge secondary is short circuited upon itself. Let me hear your thoughts. Here is a pic of two different designs, though i'm sure many other designs are possible.
http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/1...neheinidea.png
peace love light
Tyson

You need a closed magnetic path and a path of lower reluctance and i am sure that the 2nd toroidal core is vital for it, it wouldn´t work otherwise.

The Tesla method to do what you propose would be simply to bring the secondary out of the near field of the primary tower.

[SkyWatcher]

Hi Xeno, thanks for the reply to my thoughts. So your thinking it would have to be along the lines of what Armagdn03 is talking about or use a dual toroid design. I just have this feeling that if the size of the fine gauge secondary is properly matched to a given primary magnetic field strength and pulse frequency, that it may have similar effects to the perpetia mechanical model. As usual, only way to know is to build the sucker. Maybe I will give it a whirl.
peace love light
Tyson

[juju]

my exiter

By the Way Juju how about your your 50 cm coil any datas ? Because i intend to wound one , but as you said is it worth the big work? Thanks

good night

Laurent

Hi Laurent...

Using the TIP 31 C, my amp draw is 0.4A at 12V... as more as you go up in the tower with primary coil, more output, but more consumption... at the middle it draws 1A but high plasma all arround the primary and at the end of secondary!

with the MPSA the consumption is 350mA ... But the field is nothing compared with the TIP 31 (5 times more power/distance).

the output at the end of secondary (avplug) without load is 220V... i think my small tower was 300V... how much do you get with yours woopy? and what is the resistance of your coils?

im using earth ground at the base, if i dont use it the consumption go up 20 or 30mA! i dont get any plasma with the MPSA!

im using 4 turns at the primary of network cable (0.5mm) with 0.5ohm resistance,, the secondary is 140ohm resistance!

thanks wrench, you get the same amp draw as i get but with more thicker wire but less resistance... interesting!

hugs

[wrench76]

YouTube - The Gadget Show - Wireless Electricity
just an interesting video I found. Also ,try the tip3055 it is working much better then the tip31 for me

[jonnydavro]

Hi I did an experiment tonight using a modified Slayer exciter which uses a rectangular L1 coil with the L2 coil wound on a ferrite torroid as i have already shown in a previous vid anyway the rectangular coil works very well as an exciter and what i like about having the L2 on a torroid is it allows you to experiment with some really crazy shaped coils that it would be hard to wind an L2 on,i'm thinking starship etc as i think the next big performance jump is going to be in the L1 coil so if you can imagine it and wind it,using the torroid you can easily try it.
The experiment i did was in regards to energy transfer between two coils,the exciter coil and a receiver coil and i stumbled onto a configuration which will fire fluorescent tubes and neons from 1m away when normally the tubes fire at about 4" away from the exciter.
If i move the reciever coil closer to the exciter,there is a plasma arc on both outputs of the rectangular L1 but what i find really interesting is for the rectangular coil to recieve energy,the output and input of the rect L1 have to be orientated a certain "C" shaped way.One wire in the vertical plane and the other,horizontal.If they are not orientated like i show in the vid,the coil can be right next to the exciter and it is dead.I don't understand this so any idea's here would be most welcome.Thanks.Jonny
YouTube - Slayer exciter-Rectangular coil and wireless energy transmision

[juju]

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spectecular jonny!

how did you remind to make that type of shapes at the end of the wires?

very interesting...

have your tryed to ground the down end of the receiver to see if you got best results?

hugs

[kazm]

@jonnydavro - is there a visible effect on the amp draw when the bulbs are lit at the receiver?

[jonnydavro]

@Juju.Hii tried grounding one end and it killed the effect but i will try sitting it in an alu tray and see if there is an increase in recieved energy.
Regarding the position of the wire's.The 26swg is a very bouncy wire and when you move the coil they bounce and move a lot and i saw a neon flash so it was just a question of moving the wire's around until the neon stayed lit and the "C" shaped shape in different plane's seemed to work best.
Its funny though how the rectangular coil recieves energy and the round one dosen't don't you think?Cheers.jonny
@Kazm.Hi I cannot see any change in the amp draw .Jonny

[juju]

yeah jonny

i thin k you found some kind of "sacred geometry" of wireless electricity!

you should experiment with both rectangular (emiter and receiver) towers, to see the difference, what do you think?

now im focused in the plasma that you showed to us, all the people are talking about plasma, the 4 state of matter... if there is free energy, plasma is the secret!

hugs

EDIT: by the way, i love the smell of plasma!

@Juju.Hi

Its funny though how the rectangular coil recieves energy and the round one dosen't don't you think?Cheers.jonny
@Kazm.Hi I cannot see any change in the amp draw .Jonny

[jonnydavro]

@Juju

you should experiment with both rectangular (emiter and receiver) towers, to see the difference, what do you think?

That is a great idea .I should be able to make an exact copy and lets see what happens.
I also love plasma but not to keen on the smell and i will try the rectangular coil in the Bedini exciter and see if it behaves differently to the round coil regarding plasma output.Cheers.Jonny

[Farrah Day]

Brilliant stuff as per usual Jonny!

[totoalas]

SEC at 1 meter WOW

Johnny great find on the coil
Wrench attached video showed the painting on the wall with hidden coils
I will try the rectangular coils of the microwave to see ???
Can you show us the circuit ?????

totoalas

[Zooty]

Johnny great find on the coil
Wrench attached video showed the painting on the wall with hidden coils
I will try the rectangular coils of the microwave to see ???
Can you show us the circuit ?????

totoalas

Painting on the wall with hidden coils???? Do you have a link to this? Congrats Jonny, excellent find! Just out of curiosity, does the round coil perform as well as the rectangular coil for lighting stuff when not using a receiver? I was also thinking about why your coil arrangement works one way round but not the other. It looks as if a larger mass coil will pick up the energy being transmitted by a smaller mass coil but i just can't see that being the case. Maybe the receiving coil has to have a minimum inductance equal to the transmitter coil. I also noticed that your receiving coil is also acting like a transmitter at the same time. Do you think that maybe there is a 2 way communication between the coils?

[wrench76]

post #605 see link