Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[TanTric]

@woopy, yeap really flying, thats my goal!

jonny is right, the plasma propulsion can maybe lift a very small object!

but jonny, my idea is to unite the 2 concepts... "lifter (just to levitate) + plasma propulsion (to accelerate forward and in different directions)"

my lifter will weight just a little bit amount of grams, made from aluminium sheet! and 12cm wide... maybe i will need a very strong plasma to make it accelerate! will need to start the experiments...

BOOM

@Juju

hehe why not let something really flying

good evening

Laurent

[jonnydavro]

@Woopy.Nice Vid.That little plane is actually flying.Things sure move fast around here
If you get a chance,have a look at this link which shows a plane called the flying bedstead which was used to test the vtol for the harrier fighter plane.
Flying Bedstead - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I am wondering if you made a very light lifter with four corner thrusters,like the legs on the bedstead and had a very light,fine wire supplying the plasma,it may fly.What do you think?Jonny
@The Cell Hi Bob.The switch is so you can isolate the 2nd large coil so you can connect it up to av plugs,different parts of the circuit like battery posts or connect to a bridge rectifier or diode cascade voltage multiplier,basically it allows for experimentation.Jonny
@TanTric.Hi Juju.I think i have got what you intend to do.Build a lifter like JL Naudin but with plasma propusion to move it about.
http://members.fortunecity.com/jlnau...ml/lifters.htm
Is this right or are you going to do both the lifting and propulsion with plasma.Either way,it sounds neat but pretty difficult to balance but if anyone can do it,its you Juju Jonny
Edit-Just seen your thread Juju and see its the Naudin lifter direction.Seems like a really interesting project to undertake anyway

[TheCell]

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@The Cell Hi Bob.The switch is so you can isolate the 2nd large coil so you can connect it up to av plugs,different parts of the circuit like battery posts or connect to a bridge rectifier or diode cascade voltage multiplier,basically it allows for experimentation.Jonny

Thanks Jonny for the info, I finally replicated slayers circuit by using your great explanations....combination of good team work....Thanks Guys.

Bob

[xee2]

woopy plasma jet

@ woopy,a
Great videos. Thanks for posting them. I think you could also make a Jacob's ladder.

EDIT: My calculations indicate you are using 28 AWG wire for large coil. Is that correct?

[TheCell]

@ woopy,

Great videos. Thanks for posting them. I think you could also make a Jacob's ladder. Are you using 30 AWG wire for large coil?

The last Coil we showed has the following:

3.5" OD PVC Pipe
24" long
20 " of winding on the pipe
30 AWG wire from Mcmaster Carr (USA only sorry) Ceramic coated
Ends are held with Self Vulcanizing Silicone tape
10 to 12 volts DC, 110 ma to 225 ma, if it hits the 325 ma the Transistor is shot....and believe me I went through 30 of them!

The circuit is Slayer007,

Be careful of the plasma as it is intense and BURNS

Thanks,

Bob

[serfer5]

@woopy, yeap really flying, thats my goal!

jonny is right, the plasma propulsion can maybe lift a very small object!

but jonny, my idea is to unite the 2 concepts... "lifter (just to levitate) + plasma propulsion (to accelerate forward and in different directions)"

my lifter will weight just a little bit amount of grams, made from aluminium sheet! and 12cm wide... maybe i will need a very strong plasma to make it accelerate! will need to start the experiments...

BOOM

having done many lifters i can say that it was a very interesting project but being that these devices are very fragile and need at least 10Kv and are useless in a vacuum they lead to a fun project that has no usefulness but your welcome to prove me wrong

[TanTric]

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[CosmicFarmer]

The responsibility to find use of the device rests in the replicator's hands.

[totoalas]

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[slayer007]

@Woopy.Great vid Laurent .I could not beleve the acceleration and high rpm's of your spinner.Sometimes a vid is needed to convey to others what you are seeing in front of you .
After watching your vid,i think Juju may actually get a lifter airbourne as the thrust you show seems to be high enough to lift a very light object.Also your thrust seems greater than nasa ion drives weighing many tons.Great work and i look forward to the refinements you are sure to discover.Jonny
@Lidmotor.Really great couple of video's.
I have been thinking about the plasma propulsion and when you think about it,the plasma output is a freebie as you are not placing a load on the exciter when you utilise it in a spinner or thruster.You still have the same electrostatic field whether its spinning a rotor or not.Regarding your amp draw.have you tried the tranny mod?This cuts my amp draw by half,it may work for you.
Also i think Juju may be right about the L2,Try a few different types and also a torroid.
@TheCell.Hi Bob.what circuit are you using in your vid.Is is the super joulethief sec with the output hooked up to the large towers?One other thing you can try with this circuit is you can put another trigger transformer in the emitter follower config and have two outputs and i think they may be 180 degrees out of phase with each other but don't have a scope to check this.

@Slayer I am getting quite good results with a twin slayer exciter like in the attached pic.Have you tried anything like this and also in emitter follower config?Jonny



@All.Just an update on my wireless neon experiment.I can now light the neon on 6.6v at 35mA at 1.8m and a cap will charge up to 90v.
At 16v the cap will charge up to 153v at 2m.I added a virtual ground to the negative leg of the av neon and that increased efficiency.This is how i had it two weeks ago but did not keep notes as usual, so i learnt a lesson Jonny

Yes, I have tried a setup just like your showing.But to be honest I didn't have the results I thought I should have.

But if your having good results with it keep at it.It sounds like you found a good coil configuration for it.

[TanTric]

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he is also right but you are right at all brother,

@serfer5 yeap, i was not very well informed, the "ionized air lifter" will only work in the earth atmosphere... but plasma work in vacum also, and so, what do you think of that?

hugs

@sory the offtopic again, i am also on a spectacular sec project and i think you will all enjoy it!

The responsibility to find use of the device rests in the replicator's hands.

[TheCell]

he is also right but you are right at all brother,

@serfer5 yeap, i was not very well informed, the "ionized air lifter" will only work in the earth atmosphere... but plasma work in vacum also, and so, what do you think of that?

Interesting...Thursday we can test this theory...we have a chamber that can give 29.5 " of vacuum.

Bob

[serfer5]

he is also right but you are right at all brother,

@serfer5 yeap, i was not very well informed, the "ionized air lifter" will only work in the earth atmosphere... but plasma work in vacum also, and so, what do you think of that?

hugs

@sory the offtopic again, i am also on a spectacular sec project and i think you will all enjoy it!

I have never tried a plasma drive so if it works then
looking forward to what you come up with

[serfer5]

Interesting...Thursday we can test this theory...we have a chamber that can give 29.5 " of vacuum.

Bob Potchen

very interesting indeed

[TanTric]

yeap cool idea, plasma balls work in vacumm... but we have to make shore that the "propulsion" property will also reveal on it!

Interesting...Thursday we can test this theory...we have a chamber that can give 29.5 " of vacuum.

Bob Potchen