Joulethief SEC exciter and variants

[seth]

@Seth.Hi and welcomeThere are a few things you can try.I would experiment with a loose wound lidmotor style L2 with plastic straw spacers.Check his vid out i think he called it "plasma at last" if you don't no what I mean.
Also try a 1.5v emergency phone charger.You will be amazed by the performance and it is still using a 1.5v AA battery and once you get your 4148 diodes you can be charging batterys to replace the one your using.Slayer has posted some good vids about charging.
You can also experiment with reciever towers,mine lights a xenon tube wirelessly and the AV plugs are a must so plenty of things to try.
The beauty of slayers simple circuit is the tuneability.Its like owning a custom car,there is always something you can do to make it better and there in lies the fun Happy experimenting.Jonny
@Magneticitist.Hi.Its great to see you made it over here and i look forward to see your experiments and hear your ideas.Welcome to the team.Jonny

Thanks for the welcome! I really appreciate the help all you guys give with your instructive videos.

Ill be trying the phone charger and the diodes.....i tried to build a little toroid like you and slayer were using, but without success. I also want to play with a flyback and see if i can get similar effects. Cant wait to do more with these ''big towers'', but ill have to get winding, and I see that i need an AV plug to tune them. So diodes, phone charger and super bright LEDs on the shopping list. Cant wait!

Happy experimenting everybody

@ Tantric
Simple as that eh? Im gonna start looking at some of the maths behind this oscillator - luckily i have a twin brother who is a maths teacher and also likes experimenting. I figure we need to team up to understand how best to use this beast.

Heres a video of my earlier measurements - such a fun device!

YouTube - exciter measurements

[slayer007]

Nice video Seth.

You may also want to try a L3 coil off the emitter.
It seems to take the field from around the source battery and redirect it back to the L1 coil.
It will also help with tunning by moving it away or closer to the L1 coil.

Also a variable capacitors across the L2 coil helps a lot when using low voltage.

It looks like your having great results.

[jonnydavro]

@Seth

i tried to build a little toroid like you and slayer were using, but without success.

Hi Seth.Here is a diagram for the torroid modification.Note the winding direction of the wire.I have marked it over and under on the diagram as the direction is important.Jonny

[totoalas]

[QUOTE=seth;108042]Thanks for the welcome! I really appreciate the help all you guys give with your instructive videos.

I I also want to play with a flyback and see if i can get similar effects.

Hi Seth
Nice color of lights

You can also use a magnetron( used in microwave oven) in series with the L1 output as Slayer said and see the increase in output... Use the pos rail for series connection.......Ive removed the two ring magnets and cooler fins

hope this help


cheers

totoalas

[TanTric]

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sex bomb, sex bomb!!

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i loved it!!!



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Thanks for the welcome! I really appreciate the help all you guys give with your instructive videos.

Ill be trying the phone charger and the diodes.....i tried to build a little toroid like you and slayer were using, but without success. I also want to play with a flyback and see if i can get similar effects. Cant wait to do more with these ''big towers'', but ill have to get winding, and I see that i need an AV plug to tune them. So diodes, phone charger and super bright LEDs on the shopping list. Cant wait!

Happy experimenting everybody

@ Tantric
Simple as that eh? Im gonna start looking at some of the maths behind this oscillator - luckily i have a twin brother who is a maths teacher and also likes experimenting. I figure we need to team up to understand how best to use this beast.

Heres a video of my earlier measurements - such a fun device!

YouTube - exciter measurements

[seth]

@Seth


Hi Seth.Here is a diagram for the torroid modification.Note the winding direction of the wire.I have marked it over and under on the diagram as the direction is important.Jonny

Thanks Johnny! ill try again tomorrow.

@slayer
I tried an L3 just hanging off the emitter.....firstly about 100 turns, then i tried about 7 turns - i wanted to see if moving it around would tune it, but it didnt seem to make any difference. Should the other end of L3 go back to the battery in series, or just sit there floating off the emitter?

[slayer007]

Thanks Johnny! ill try again tomorrow.

@slayer
I tried an L3 just hanging off the emitter.....firstly about 100 turns, then i tried about 7 turns - i wanted to see if moving it around would tune it, but it didnt seem to make any difference. Should the other end of L3 go back to the battery in series, or just sit there floating off the emitter?

It will work off eather the positive or negative side of the source battery.
I just like to use it off the negative side or the transistors emitter.

It sounds like your L3 coil is to small.It should be as big or bigger than the L1 coil.
Also you could try reversing the coil around,It might just be backwards.
And the open end should just be floating free.

[Jiffycoil]

My build of the simple Exciter

Ive been away from this forum for some time. I came back and find this. Well thinking about it kept me up at night so I contacted Slayer and he pointed me to the schematic and I built the simple Exciter. Running on 5 volts Oh my! I'm so excited to move forward.


Slayer Exciter by jiffycoil, on Flickr

Thanks Slayer

[CosmicFarmer]

Welcome Back Jiffycoil!

Funny to see all those lights stuffed in that oscillator...

Ya the Slayer exciter seems a little stronger then the Stiffler exciter, and a little more robust... but I am sure there are differences, however for the tinkerer, the Slayer exciter is a little easier to use and not as sensitive.

The addition of tuning capacitor and operational LED / protection diode are useful to have, as well as doubling or triple your transistor for greater field, or use the current limiting transistors.

@Seth

Try a pancake L2 with an adjustable height. I found that it should be mostly near the bottom, if the top is your desired HV end. Not completely on the bottom, maybe give it an inch or two, like Jiffycoil shows, even though his isnt a pancake.

So many different exciters so little time...


One question, though. Non ionizing radiation from cell phones is about to be claimed cancerous. Is this similar to, or different then that? I know if I hold a cell phone to my ear for an hour my brains begin to bake, I feel it. But I can play with wireless and not feel that. However I dont sleep ontop of my coils...

One idea is to incorporate the rife frequencies to this technology. Do you think there would be a way to set specific frequencies that this transmits at, lets say 10,000 hz? or is that too low... Instead of worrying about cancer, maybe these things can be wireless-transmission-of-relaxation-and-health machines.... and we are just now working on the heart of it !!

[Jiffycoil]

Hey Cosmic,
Thanks for the welcome back. This is very fascinating and I'm looking forward to experimenting more with it. I'm also picking up where I left of with the SEC Exciter. I'm so far behind but that makes it fun. One question I had does anyone have a source for the 5-512pF variable capacitor? I've looked around and cant seem to find them.

[slayer007]

Hey Cosmic,
Thanks for the welcome back. This is very fascinating and I'm looking forward to experimenting more with it. I'm also picking up where I left of with the SEC Exciter. I'm so far behind but that makes it fun. One question I had does anyone have a source for the 5-512pF variable capacitor? I've looked around and cant seem to find them.

Hello Jiffycoil

Nice to see you in the forum.And a vey nice work with your exciter.

The capacitor I'm using I bought off ebay.But here is a link to one site that has them also.

Scotts Electronics For Sale 266pf Variable Capacitor Dual Section Poly Plastic

It's two caps in one, I have them together for 0-532 pf.

[Jiffycoil]

Thanks Slayer. I should have put two and two together. I buy parts for my crystal radios from him. I put together a larger coil combined with a pancake coil last night. I'll post it later today. Thanks for the welcome.

[seth]

@Seth

Try a pancake L2 with an adjustable height. I found that it should be mostly near the bottom, if the top is your desired HV end. Not completely on the bottom, maybe give it an inch or two, like Jiffycoil shows, even though his isnt a pancake.

Just tried this - first i put my 4 turns of insulated floppy wire at the bottom, rather than stretched all over the secondary, and it seemed to work just as well, with no difference from the original. So then i got a thick uninsulated copper wire coil of 6 turns and put that at the bottom (again with my lights at the top), and i got really poor results.......so, i lifted it up all the way to the top, and it worked much better (but still not as well as my thinner uninsulated wire.)

...I have no idea why. I'll keep trying different coils and see what happens i suppose.

@Jiffycoil

Great photo!!! Well done.

[slayer007]

@Seth

Like Cosmic said I think the pancake coils work the best also.
The one I'm using is nine turns of 21 ga. plastic coated wire.

With mine the current draw is lower using the pancake coil.
And when you find just the right spot the magic happens.

[Jiffycoil]

S Exciter 2

I had a few coils that I had wound this year and put them to use with a new setup. The next setup I'll build to spec but I thought it would be fun to see what this would do.

Setup:
Slayer simple exciter

MPSA06
1M Resister
12v power from converted computer PS

L1 3.5" form, AWG 27 magnet wire, 962 turns, coil capacitance 6.2pF
coil inductance 17.1mH.

L2 Pancake coil 9 turns AWG 21 plastic coated solid wire

L3 3.5" form, AWG 27 magnet wire, 513 turns, coil capacitance 4.6pF
coil inductance 8.4mH.

I will take images of meter readings from this point forward. Please excuse their absence.


Slayer Exciter 2 by jiffycoil, on Flickr


Slayer 2 L1 Plasma Jet by jiffycoil, on Flickr


Slayer 2 L1 to L3 by jiffycoil, on Flickr


Slayer 2 UV Tube by jiffycoil, on Flickr


Slayer 2 Helium Tube by jiffycoil, on Flickr


Slayer 2 Plasma Bulb by jiffycoil, on Flickr


Slayer 2 Maltese Cross Crookes Tube by jiffycoil, on Flickr

This exciter does amazing things with 12 volts. I look forward to building a setup to spec.