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  • Hi Luc
    great thread you have here and as always I enjoy all your videos
    As for the DC motor, I could recommend a treadmill motor, you can get one from ebay for about 50$ and it is easy to control. They are usually rated about 1-2 HP and the RPMs can be varied from 0-6000 if a variac is used
    Hope this helps.
    Jetijs
    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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    • Hi Jetijs,

      thanks for your support and good suggestion as always

      I may end up buying one on eBay like you suggested. However I'll try the DC motor that I already have to first see if I can confirm the results before investing more $.

      I hope it's not high RPM needed to get this to work!

      Luc

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      • GOTO,

        i agree, those magnets look scarey, my two 1 inch spheres are scarey to me..and they are only N42 !

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        • Hi all,

          I made a new video to demonstrate the effect of a Resonating Generator coil.

          Using a high windings coil and the right value of capacitor in series one can achieve very high power (Watts) output. Even a heavy gauge wire coil cannot come close to this power output. See for yourself the difference

          Link to Video: YouTube - Generator Coil test 9

          So far in all my tests I have found no benefits of combining low and high windings coils together. I've also tested adding capacitor and or diodes in countless combination's and nothing interesting. Possibly a switch would be needed to best test this.

          Luc

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          • Nice vid Gotoluc

            Goto.........just seen your new vid.

            Although you are not claiming any overunity, the
            motor does seem very efficient.

            What would happen if you added 6 or 8 more coils?

            Could the output of all those coils be combined, or
            would they somehow slow the motor down or make
            it draw more power?

            Keep up the good work!

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            • Originally posted by bobo36us View Post
              Goto.........just seen your new vid.

              Although you are not claiming any overunity, the
              motor does seem very efficient.

              What would happen if you added 6 or 8 more coils?

              Could the output of all those coils be combined, or
              would they somehow slow the motor down or make
              it draw more power?

              Keep up the good work!
              Hi bobo36us,

              correct! it is very efficient. Seem to be very close to 100% which I don't think is the case with most generators. However, I'm quite sure adding more coils will not increase efficiency but it would increase the voltage or current depending on how one connects the coils (series or parallel). However, the motor (prime mover) will use more current if the coils are outputting more current

              I have a dual high turn (windings) coil combo that I will test next to see how it compares.

              I'll make another video if proves to be better.

              Luc

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              • Variable capacitor.

                I believe a variable capacitor will improve your efficency even more, or two in series with a finer adjustment on the smaller one like twin potentiometers. They are inexpensive, hemi style, recognizable as radio tuners.

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                • Merry christmas Luc

                  Hi Luc , nice video as allways.

                  Your cap is in series or in parallel, I think in series, but let me know.

                  A question off topic, have you ever seen a diode (1N4004) get hot and break down in a circuit which when tested to see what voltage is there, there is no voltage, but distroys the diode? well that is what is happening to me and I can not explain it, 12v on one side and no more than 1v on the other. I have blown two diodes now!!!!! Check on the test you did of mine that the diode to the + of the battery is still good. Speak to you again

                  mike

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                  • Originally posted by synchro View Post
                    I believe a variable capacitor will improve your efficency even more, or two in series with a finer adjustment on the smaller one like twin potentiometers. They are inexpensive, hemi style, recognizable as radio tuners.
                    Hi synchro,

                    I do agree that a variable capacitor would be nice. I do have one but it goes only up to 560pF and such a small capacitance will have next to no effect. If you know of variable capacitors that would have a range of .5uf down to .09uf please let me know.

                    Thanks

                    Luc

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                    • Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post
                      Hi Luc , nice video as allways.

                      Your cap is in series or in parallel, I think in series, but let me know.

                      A question off topic, have you ever seen a diode (1N4004) get hot and break down in a circuit which when tested to see what voltage is there, there is no voltage, but distroys the diode? well that is what is happening to me and I can not explain it, 12v on one side and no more than 1v on the other. I have blown two diodes now!!!!! Check on the test you did of mine that the diode to the + of the battery is still good. Speak to you again

                      mike
                      Hi Michael,

                      the capacitor is in series.

                      I did smoke and crack one 1N4007 using your circuit which happened at high frequency. I have had this happen before on my H-Bridge circuit and had to use an Ultra Fast diode and had no problems after that. I noticed your circuit is not necessarily switching the mosfet at the frequency that the 555 timer is outputting. It seems to start to oscillate something like Rosemary's circuit. So even though you may think you're at a low frequency it could be 4 or more times then it is. You really need to get an Oscilloscope to see what's going on.

                      Luc

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                      • you are right

                        Originally posted by gotoluc View Post
                        Hi Michael,

                        the capacitor is in series.

                        I did smoke and crack one 1N4007 using your circuit which happened at high frequency. I have had this happen before on my H-Bridge circuit and had to use an Ultra Fast diode and had no problems after that. I noticed your circuit is not necessarily switching the mosfet at the frequency that the 555 timer is outputting. It seems to start to oscillate something like Rosemary's circuit. So even though you may think you're at a low frequency it could be 4 or more times then it is. You really need to get an Oscilloscope to see what's going on.

                        Luc
                        You are right about the mosfet oscillating at another frequency, the trigger frequency of 4.3khz+- just seems to get it started, the feed back to the mosfet some 70-100v seems to throw the mosfet into an oscillation at 6khz+-

                        Yes I need a scope, looking into this for the new year, money tight at the moment, my daughter is costing me a fortune in PETROL. Sorry again for being off topic, but What you have there is of interest to me for creating an energy loop, we need that 100% efficiency motor to generator, better than a transformer if you see what I am thinking about.

                        Keep up the great work

                        Mike

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                        • Circular Instead of recipocating

                          Hi

                          Very nice concept. I did not read all of the post but I did watch the first post and Youtube video. Here is my input.

                          if the Neomagnets combined with the metal are arranged into a complete circle (North wrapped around to south). You could pulse the coil in such a way as to continuously revolve around the metal / magnet bar ring. There would be advantages over not having a reciprocating motion. If the magnet is held in place then the metal and magnet ring would start to revolve (now that rotating mass could be connected to a rubber wheel to take off some power).

                          I think if there is only one magnet used with a metal ring going from north to south, then the coil would run around the configuration without being pulsed, or conversely the ring would just continuously move. I could be wrong about that I am not 100% up on magnetic circuits.

                          Very nice concept.

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                          • Originally posted by BinzerBob View Post
                            Hi

                            Very nice concept. I did not read all of the post but I did watch the first post and Youtube video. Here is my input.

                            if the Neomagnets combined with the metal are arranged into a complete circle (North wrapped around to south). You could pulse the coil in such a way as to continuously revolve around the metal / magnet bar ring. There would be advantages over not having a reciprocating motion. If the magnet is held in place then the metal and magnet ring would start to revolve (now that rotating mass could be connected to a rubber wheel to take off some power).

                            I think if there is only one magnet used with a metal ring going from north to south, then the coil would run around the configuration without being pulsed, or conversely the ring would just continuously move. I could be wrong about that I am not 100% up on magnetic circuits.

                            Very nice concept.
                            Hi BinzerBob,

                            I wish I could make a metal ring for the motor but you may have missed that the magnets are in opposing fields (North facing North). If the magnets were in a N-S arrangement between the metal bar or a ring the motor would not work.

                            Thanks for your post and interest

                            Luc

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                            • Hi luc,
                              Nice tests. Just had a few things for consideration. First, im not sure how much this has to do with resonance or if its just power correction like i was mentioning in my earlier posts about using ac. Even if you are using a mono pole its still giving your coil an ac signal, and with ac there is a certian amount of power available, and a certian amount that is actually being used due to the fact that voltage and current arent always lined up depending on the load. This is usually fixed by adding the right amount of capacitance to line up the voltage and current, thats what i think you may be doing with your capacitor. If you had a higher value capacitor you should be able to get the primary low turn coil to work well too. Here is some info on the power correction stuff
                              Power factor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                              So it may be possible to get even more effiecent with even higher amounts of capacitance to actually hit 1/4 wave or whatever resonance. You should be able to hook the coil up to your SG and set it at 400hz or so and find the most effiecent capacitor to use. Variable capacitors do come in handy like the other guys were saying. I made one using sets of nine capacitors from each value (pf, nf, uf etc.) and each set had its own nine pole switch. It makes it easy to add them up and dial it in but it takes a while to make it. Anyways, great work as usual and im lookin forward to the next vid

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                              • Supporting experimental evidence ..
                                YouTube - Inverse Transformer.wmv
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