Dielectric emf recycler

[Inquorate]

05/12/2009 - Vox

Pretty much the same as the TS, but not needing to tune the damn thing; we can put one Joule to work 4 times, running a generator or bedini coil that just needs to be 25 percent efficient at feeding the battery for a self runner, even without counting the conditioned capacitor Electret effect.

Special thanks to Rave154 for finding these images.

[Inquorate]

The basic function

YouTube - dielectric emf recycler

Please see the youtube link in comment section for how the conditioned capacitor Electret effect will come into play.

Love and light

[rave154]

Beautifully simply explained, especially with the 2 bottles at right angles,

of course with the bottles analogy, you actually have to put "work in" to flip them at right angles - lifting the one bottles etc , but with the caps all you have to do is 'switch'....which costs next to nothing ( 555' , 494's etc..consuming mA only enabling you to switch vast potentials , going through a load each time you switch it./...minus normal cap losses of course, though even these can/could be reduced via conditioning etc )

If you think about a conventional circuit, cap to a load.....the load is actually a short acorss the cap....its what i call a "slow" short acrosss the load...a "fast" short would be a single piece of wire of course......but the motor(windings)....or the bulb (filament) is still a short across the cap = dead cap after a 1-shot dump of the cap.

with the cap switching circuit, the load is no longer a short ACROSS the cap but is in fact in SERIES with the flow of the electrons each time its switched.

David. D

[Tecstatic]

05/12/2009 - Vox

Pretty much the same as the TS, but not needing to tune the damn thing; we can put one Joule to work 4 times, running a generator or bedini coil that just needs to be 25 percent efficient at feeding the battery for a self runner, even without counting the conditioned capacitor Electret effect.

Special thanks to Rave154 for finding these images.

From me too.

I noted these diagrams too, way back in the Tesla Switch thread.

Take a look at these caps.

B25834D6156K004 (EPCOS) - Capacitors for Power Electronics (Damping)

Especially the B25834D6156K004 on page 5 is of interest for me

Eric

PS. how goes with your back ?

[dave_cahoon]

Real old news

Had this going back in early 90's

Here is more, BUT sorry its not OU. 94% was one mans measurement.
Seems, more like a circuit for another device, like a motor.

The Dielectric Shuttle

Only improvement I can think of would be to use photo flash caps for their lower resistance.

Plengos simulation YouTube - DrSpark replication

Someone patented the tech a few years ago. Or tried to...

Dave

[Inquorate]

94%

That sounds interesting. 94%, probably not pulsing a coil and harvesting the radiant spikes? I hope so.

Using the dielectric emf recycler with conditioned caps to power a bedini coil and harvest the sparks is the goal.

Thanks for the feedback everyone.

Love and light

[Inquorate]

Back

From me too.

I noted these diagrams too, way back in the Tesla Switch thread.

Take a look at these caps.

B25834D6156K004 (EPCOS) - Capacitors for Power Electronics (Damping)

Especially the B25834D6156K004 on page 5 is of interest for me

Eric

PS. how goes with your back ?

They'd left debris from the hemorrhaged disk they fixed in the last op. They appear to have gotten it this time though, cause my leg etc does what it's told now.

Way cool.

I've got a lot of stuff in mind to do, couple more weeks.. Of course then I'll have to start going back to work.

[Tecstatic]

Had this going back in early 90's

Here is more, BUT sorry its not OU. 94% was one mans measurement.
Seems, more like a circuit for another device, like a motor.

The Dielectric Shuttle

Only improvement I can think of would be to use photo flash caps for their lower resistance.

Plengos simulation YouTube - DrSpark replication

Someone patented the tech a few years ago. Or tried to...

Dave

Honestly, what is the point ?

You bring claims to the circuit posted by Inquorate by referring to the results of a non-identical circuit. Did you study that setup ?

Only improvement I can think of would be to use photo flash caps for their lower resistance.

Maybe it could be worth thinking a bit harder.

If you did read and understand the capacitor specs I posted right above your post, please give me the part number of that presumably better photo flash capacitor.

Real old news
Had this going back in early 90's

Yes, and much of Tesla's stuff is going way back to the early 90's ( 1890's ).

Whats the point, if it is a very interesting circuit ?

Eric

[Inquorate]

Thanks Tec

Honestly, what is the point ?

You bring claims to the circuit posted by Inquorate by referring to the results of a non-identical circuit. Did you study that setup ?



Maybe it could be worth thinking a bit harder.

If you did read and understand the capacitor specs I posted right above your post, please give me the part number of that presumably better photo flash capacitor.



Yes, and much of Tesla's stuff is going way back to the early 90's ( 1890's ).

Whats the point, if it is a very interesting circuit ?

Eric

I'm sure dave_cahoon was trying to be helpful. But tec is right; the TS works. The bedini coil works. Conditioned caps work.

Altogether the result will likely be 'OU' or we'll all have fun trying.

Dave_cahoon also probably hasn't researched the threads and experiments I've done in the leadup.

Love and light

[dave_cahoon]

@Tech your right i havent

The HI-freq version of the circuit 10khz+ works just not ou

Still its REAL OLD NEWS as is, your not the first.

Dave

[Inquorate]

Old news

@Tech your right i havent

The HI-freq version of the circuit 10khz+ works just not ou

Still its REAL OLD NEWS as is, your not the first.

Dave

@Dave_cahoon

Dude, silence was an option.

Bedini built / theorise the TS 30 years ago. Old news or new news is moot.

I came to this via lots of experiments with conditioned capacitors and Electrets etc, only afterwards learning others had done something similar. Similar but by no means the same.

I'll be sharing results soon for the sake of results. If I was after commendations I'd be slugging away in the private sector.

That said, if you could keep your comments constructive it would be most appreciated.

[Tecstatic]

@Tech your right i havent

The HI-freq version of the circuit 10khz+ works just not ou

Still its REAL OLD NEWS as is, your not the first.

Dave

@dave_cahoon,

This speaks for itself.

The HI-freq version of the circuit 10khz+ works just not ou

Could you please refer to a documented experiment on the original posted circuit supporting your claim, even though it is no proof. Just because a single person does not have the skills to succeed, it is no proof a specific circuit does not work.

IMHO you should not put destructive biasing here, with claims based on nonsense as judging Inq's posted circuit based on the results from a different circuit. Pure nonsense, and I don't understand why you do this (or maybe I do)

Still its REAL OLD NEWS as is, your not the first.

Where have you seen me claim I was the first ?

If you continue posting what I consider non-constructive posts, you end up on my ignore list, as IMHO your posts here are pure noise distracting from the goal of the thread.

If you do, you will stay on my ignore list until being quoted by others for doing valuable contributions to the forum.

Take a look at e.g Inquorate's posts here on this forum. They deserve deep respect, because a lot of questions is asked, a lot of experiments are done and observed with remarkable observation skills. Something to strive for.

Eric

[ren]

Nothing is new these days....its all old news. Doesnt mean its unworthy though. As they say....the OLD becomes the NEW

Ben I love the way your brain just doesnt stop.

Keep nuttin it out, I can see you are really trying to get to the guts of the WHOLE thing, trying to understand the mechanisms instead of just the circuit. There arent too many people that approach it that way these days...Im guilty of the latter too frequently.

Good to hear all is working as it should (after the op). I wanna catch up with ya soon, Im not liking my chances before Chrissy though at this stage. I will let you know. BTW if you wanna have a little play around with that cap flipper I built you are welcome to, I can drop it by sometime.

(PS: Listen to Eric, he is the goods )

Regards

[dave_cahoon]

Not OU, regarding this subject is BAD!, ok

Call me bad, that first pix, i drew it.., its been on my site for 12years+
since anglefire drspark86 use the archive..

I haven't given it thought ? LOL

Im bad cause its not OU, I suggested using differing caps and blammo

BAD BAD "ITs NOT OU" BAD BAD

OK im silent its not ou UNLESS, you have radioactive caps???

DrSpark I hate it when someone closes my mind for me.

[Inquorate]

Not ou

Not OU, regarding this subject is BAD!, ok

Call me bad, that first pix, i drew it.., its been on my site for 12years+
since anglefire drspark86 use the archive..

I haven't given it thought ? LOL

Im bad cause its not OU, I suggested using differing caps and blammo

BAD BAD "ITs NOT OU" BAD BAD

OK im silent its not ou UNLESS, you have radioactive caps???

DrSpark I hate it when someone closes my mind for me.

Again, silence was an option.

If you'd like me to remove your picture I will. Radioactive caps are unnecessary. As you built the circuit and as indicated by the schematic - was not what I had in mind; you're right, as you've drawn it it won't be 'OU'.

It sufficed for getting part of a point across regarding future experiments I have in mind using capacitors that have been conditioned by a very specific process. I have shown this process in fine detail on this forum quite exhaustively. I have also undertaken many experiments showing anomalous results, and submitted these experiments to peer review.

Please pm me if you'd like me to remove the linked images. I can draw my own schematic that I believe will be more efficient.

Also, I wonder you tested the energy dissipated in a heater element with a calorometer and calculate the joules of heat produced vs the joules taken from a battery?

I ask this because I intend to do so, and to openly share my results.

If you would like to continue posting on this thread, please do so in future with facts and numbers and experimental proofs on hand.

So far you have claimed not ou in caps repeatedly.

If you continue despite my aforementioned request I will recommend people 'ignore' you, and contact admin regarding your comments.

Enough said