Dutch astronout about time, gravity

[Cherryman]

Hi all, just wanna share this video, it's a dutch astronout thinkingout loud.

Prof. dr. Wubbo J. Ockels is a Dutch physicist, and also the Netherlands’ original astronaut. He is a Professor of Aerospace Sustainable Engineering and Technology at the University of Delft, and tries to stimulate a mentality change among Dutch citizens.

In his mind-bending TEDxAmsterdam talk, Ockels explains how ‘time’ is created by human beings, as a way our brains can make sense of gravity. The speed of light is constant, because it is made by us: it’s the clock by which we have calibrated our existence. Based on this premise, Ockels proposes a new way to explore life in our galaxy.

VIDEO: Wubbo Ockels on time and gravity « TEDxAmsterdam

[Cloxxki]

Thanks a lot for posting.
I met Wubbo shortly once, although we didn't speak. A buddy was one of his students graduating. I had the honour to make some practical suggestions.

Wobbo seemed to be all into aerodymanics and free energy, and now this... Original thinking! Would be interesting to track that PhD student's thesis. Wubbo has a way to inspire them. And understandably so, whom of you wouldn't, with a room full of motivated nerd to your disposal for a couple years, to do research and open thinking?

What can take a common physics formula, and eliminate t from it?

[elias]

Hi

This was a very reasonable speech, with some vagueness in it, but the point that time and gravity maybe related makes sense.
The fact that consciousness creates time is what I completely agree upon.
The obvious is the fact that when gravity increases, everything will thus rate of time will seem to increase.

Elias

[Cloxxki]

Could this gravity/time correlation somehow be tested in a lab?
Take fish. The have a pretty predicatable life span, I suppose. Stick the aquarium in a NASA?Army centrifuge. Under water, fish matching water's density, should not be harmed too much. Water also doesn't compress too well, so I imagine pressure might also remain close to typical, even at 5G.
Now, will the fish grow and die quicker, for outsiders such as non-centrifuged earthlings? Maybe fish should not be the first subject to use, better start out with some oce-cell lifeforms or insects.
One issue I do see is that oxygen might rise up from the water quicker at 5G, making it harder to life in. It might take special measures to level that out.

We could just stick a man in the centrifuge and see if he'll die quicker than the typical isolation inmate, but the physiological stress would make that a no-brainer. If the subject were to live longer, that would not only be unexpected, but justify a whole new form of medical science.
Anyway, submerged life forms seem like a logical place to start. I seem to have heard once that Wubbo or another astronaut took frogs along into space, and they were unaffected by the acceleration of take-offs, due to being under water.

Any thoughts welcome. If it's too far off topic, it might require its own thread, or none at all.

[BinzerBob]

I was not able to watch the interview it did not download fast enough for my patients, something slow about my connection. However, my comments

Yes the mind creates time. When one gets into a car accident or something very horrific the mind is capable of slowing down the events or perceive the events in slow motion. It is my view that the mind starts to increase its speed maybe 2 or 10 times. We are able to think much faster than our bodies can react. Normally our minds settle down to a speed that we are accustom to realizing with our bodies.

Our morality might be linked to this as well, in many ways. My belief is that at a young age, say 3 or 4 time passes very slowly partly because our minds could be thinking much faster. The mind has not been taught to slow down. And partly because one day for someone who has only lived for 3 or 4 years is a significant percentage of their existence.

But as we get older and say at the point of dying. There might only be 3 seconds of life left in our bodies. But if the mind increases in speed say millions of times over, we can imagine ourselves being born again growing up going to school and getting married and growing old and dying again. And this can happen over and over again.

Time is something that is invented for sure, and it limits us.

[Aaron]

gravity and time

The obvious is the fact that when gravity increases, everything will thus rate of time will seem to increase.

Elias, doesn't the opposite happen? Increase gravity will have the result of time ticking slower instead of faster?

[elias]

I don't know maybe, you mean that gravity slows down time, and time is faster in outer space? I don't know, but gravity is something that is related to motion. more gravity means more faster motion and that's why I concluded that more gravity may result in faster motion, When you run if gravity was more than one G, you'd run faster, using more energy of course.
If you jump up and down, you need more energy to jump but, you'll get down pretty faster. It'll seem like the old black and white charlie chaplin movies.

Elias, doesn't the opposite happen? Increase gravity will have the result of time ticking slower instead of faster?

[Aaron]

gravity and time

Superman can jump over a building here on Earth because he is from a planet
with much stronger gravity, where he was normal there.

When on Earth, the gravity is much weaker and he doesn't have to move
against as much resistance as his body is designed to do.

It is like running with weights around your ankles. More gravity, you run
slower. But take off the weights and you will be able to move much quicker.

[Inquorate]

Time

Time has to be a direct artifact of perception of experience.

[Cherryman]

I was searching for a confirmation if it is true that in space time goes slower, it's said that astronouts watches and even atomic clocks in space are running a bit slower and have to be adjusted on return..
Did not nfind confirmatiuon yet.


I did find a nice article however about how time relates to gravity and speed :

TIME

[Cloxxki]

I was searching for a confirmation if it is true that in space time goes slower, it's said that astronouts watches and even atomic clocks in space are running a bit slower and have to be adjusted on return..
Did not nfind confirmatiuon yet.


I did find a nice article however about how time relates to gravity and speed :

TIME

Mechanical and Quarz the same? Long time ago I read on the causes for the found differences.