1872, Elihu Thomson - anyone got this document in scientific american 1872??

[nat1971a]

the dark box was used to view the sparks...edison used graphite for the spark gap and the other end of the gap was connected to a gas pipe...So i would assume that thomson/houston were connecting it the same way to disprove edisons theory

[Aaron]

dark box

Page 12 seems to answer it.

One point to ground and one to open.

http://www.nap.edu/html/biomems/tedison.pdf

[Aaron]

Etheric Force Solved?

Mystery solved or misinformation?

In either case.... seems pretty plausible:

Etheric Force

Thomas Edison almost invented radio. During November of 1875 Edison and his assistants were busy working to improve telegraphic devices. They were using a vibrating device to generate a small alternating electrical current of high frequency. They noticed that when the device vibrated, metal objects that touched it generated sparks. Although this phenomenon was known among telegraph operators, Edison decided that it must represent a new and as yet unknown force. After careful experimentation, Edison determined that the force was not caused by electromagnetic induction. The team decided to give this mysterious new force a name—the “etheric” (ee-theer-ic) force.




Edison's etheroscope. Courtesy: National Park Service, Edison National Historic Site.




Edison’s team built a dark box called the etheroscope. This allowed them to see the sparks more easily. It also demonstrated how the etheric force could be used on ordinary telegraph lines to send messages. Edison also discovered that the etheric force could be transmitted a long distance along a wire and still be detected at the far end. He used an existing telegraph cable to send a message to a point near New Brunswick, New Jersey, about 25 miles away, which was then detected a few feet from the wire. Edison decided that with further development, the etheric force could be used to enhance telegraph services, and this would be its major significance. He thought it would allow telegraph companies to send messages on uninsulated conductors such as railroad tracks, therefore saving them money.



When it was reported in the papers, however, Edison was ridiculed. The etheric force was compared to claims that others had made about mysterious new forces, such as “psychic” forces that could allow telepathy. Elihu Thompson and Edwin Houston published the results of their own experiments and concluded that the etheric force was simply electromagnetic induction, and Edison soon dropped his experiments. Thompson and Houston, however, were wrong.



What Edison had actually discovered, though neither he nor his opponents understood it, was the basis of radio communication. The vibrator he used produced radio frequency electromagnetic waves, which caused the sparks in nearby metal objects. The waves would tend to follow a conductor, even a very long one such as the telegraph line from Newark to New Brunswick. If a detector of radio waves had been available, it might have picked up the Edison transmissions from a long distance. Unfortunately, it would be more than a decade before Edison’s contribution would be appreciated. In 1889, Heinrich Hertz completed his experiments proving the existence of radio waves.

[Aaron]

Etheric Force Solved?

Mystery solved or misinformation?

In either case.... seems pretty plausible:

Etheric Force - GHN
Etheric Force

Thomas Edison almost invented radio. During November of 1875 Edison and his assistants were busy working to improve telegraphic devices. They were using a vibrating device to generate a small alternating electrical current of high frequency. They noticed that when the device vibrated, metal objects that touched it generated sparks. Although this phenomenon was known among telegraph operators, Edison decided that it must represent a new and as yet unknown force. After careful experimentation, Edison determined that the force was not caused by electromagnetic induction. The team decided to give this mysterious new force a name—the “etheric” (ee-theer-ic) force.




Edison's etheroscope. Courtesy: National Park Service, Edison National Historic Site.




Edison’s team built a dark box called the etheroscope. This allowed them to see the sparks more easily. It also demonstrated how the etheric force could be used on ordinary telegraph lines to send messages. Edison also discovered that the etheric force could be transmitted a long distance along a wire and still be detected at the far end. He used an existing telegraph cable to send a message to a point near New Brunswick, New Jersey, about 25 miles away, which was then detected a few feet from the wire. Edison decided that with further development, the etheric force could be used to enhance telegraph services, and this would be its major significance. He thought it would allow telegraph companies to send messages on uninsulated conductors such as railroad tracks, therefore saving them money.



When it was reported in the papers, however, Edison was ridiculed. The etheric force was compared to claims that others had made about mysterious new forces, such as “psychic” forces that could allow telepathy. Elihu Thompson and Edwin Houston published the results of their own experiments and concluded that the etheric force was simply electromagnetic induction, and Edison soon dropped his experiments. Thompson and Houston, however, were wrong.



What Edison had actually discovered, though neither he nor his opponents understood it, was the basis of radio communication. The vibrator he used produced radio frequency electromagnetic waves, which caused the sparks in nearby metal objects. The waves would tend to follow a conductor, even a very long one such as the telegraph line from Newark to New Brunswick. If a detector of radio waves had been available, it might have picked up the Edison transmissions from a long distance. Unfortunately, it would be more than a decade before Edison’s contribution would be appreciated. In 1889, Heinrich Hertz completed his experiments proving the existence of radio waves.

[Aaron]

"dark box" edison

Use this search:
"dark box" edison - Google Search

[nat1971a]

If one reads edisons notes carefully....he backed down under pressure from his financiers not because of houstons & thomsons theories....

He quite clearly states that it wasnt from extra current....

I am starting to believe that Tesla duplicated edisons/houstons device and refined it....

Starting to look like misinformation to me

[Tishatang]

Hi Nat and all,

Good research here. This specifically relates to the Hendershot device. See here: I prefer the 32 meg download.

Lester J Hendershot - The Hendershot Motor/Fuelless Generator - Hyiq.org

Hendershot uses the opposed twin solenoids exactly like Edison. The only difference is that he uses a magnet on top of the iron vibrating bar. Edison's notes don't show any experiments using a permanent magnet. I think Hendershot found a way to improve upon Edison's discovery? Henderson seems to have combined Tesla's idea of a radiant collector feeding the twin coil vibrator. They both would be in some kind of harmonic relationship to each other. This Edison stuff explains part of the mystery of the Hendershot design.

The only main difference I see is that Edison connects a wire to the iron bar where Hendershot does not. Maybe Hendershot has this wire hidden to protect secret? Or, maybe he never tried to connect a wire to the iron, thus never tapping the full potential of what he had?

Tishatang

[nat1971a]

Thanks Tishatang for bringing this up!!!

Looks like we have another example of something unusual happening!

Did you notice the symmetry in the circuit from the photos...

[boguslaw]

Good finding!

Yes Hendershot device has many common with etheric force.
AND Hendershot device looks very similar to Testatika !

IMHO the total way is to generate etheric force, then store it inside curious capacitor or enlarge using multiple coils. Then two such etheric forces has to be force against each other on permanent magnet coil to create normal current.

[Tishatang]

@Nat

Harold Apsden also has a free energy design using concentric capacitors as radiant collectors. But, I think what is being collected is scalar energy, not the magnetic spectrum as we know it.

You can go here and download Chapter 11 of Patrick Kelley's Free Energy Books where Apsden's Great Britain patent GB2390941 is described. Apsden uses the same concentric capacitors as Hendershot. So, you can also add this to the list of similar designs.

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter11.pdf

When you wind coils over the pegs of the Henderson basket-weave design, the same wire goes around the circle of pegs and when it comes around the second time, the wires cross at 90 degrees to the first winding. This is the same 90 degree crossing as appears in the Wilbert Smith Caduceus Coil. Think of the 90 degree crossing of the wires as a transducer converting electromagnetic energy into scalar energy. You could dump 1000 watts of energy into the caduceus coil and it would not get hot. It just swallowed it up like a black hole. So, where did the energy go? It got converted and sent out into space as scalar energy.

With Hendershot, the 90 degree basket-weave coil design together with the concentric capacitors are working as tunable receiver of scalar energy that is everywhere, but not detected with conventional electronics. This energy stimulates the buzzer coils make/break. The coils in opposition shock the iron bar into vibration which in turn sends out radiant energy as shown by the Edison notes. Part of this is fed back to the resonant tuning circuit as a feedback loop. All of this is an educated guess on my part. But it makes more and more sense because of the Edison notes you posted. It helps explain where the energy gain comes from. Until now I thought the make/break double solenoid was more or less passive, being used as a vibrator to convert DC into AC. But now I see it as active and part of the secret. Grey also used this type of make/break as well as Stubblefield. Ummmmm?

Tish

[nat1971a]

Thanks Tish!!!

Looks like we have another example of using opposing coils in Harald Aspens patent. I woundnt have noticed this unless i was specifically looking for it. It isnt mentioned in the patent description but the patent drawings clearly shows oppositely wound inductors in a symmetrical design.

So we have the following inventors using oppositely wound coils in slightly different ways and what appears to be symmetrical circiuts as described in function by houston/thomson. Whether this description is correct or something else is going on is very open at this point

edison
thomson/houston
Tesla
hendershot
harold aspen

Cheers
Nat

[nat1971a]

Guys i was watching stargate last night and something caught my attention one of the grays said "two equal and opposite waves cancel out to create a stationary wave"

Tesla talked about stationary waves all the time and i must admit I didnt really know what he was talking about until now..after reading this link. I think what Elihu thomson and houston had done was to create a stationary wave with their device. I would have a guess that edison probably didnt produce the stationary wave as his circuit wasnt symmetrical.

Strings, standing waves and harmonics

Start at "Travelling waves and standing waves" and watch the graphic "The animation shows the interaction of two waves, with equal frequency and magnitude, travelling in opposite directions: blue to the right, green to the left. The red line is their sum: the red wave is what happens when the two travelling waves add together (superpose is the technical term). By stopping the animation, you can check that the red wave really is the sum of the two interacting travelling waves. "



the equal and opposite waves apparently combine to produce a SUPER spike of High voltage from what i gather. I think this is what edwin gray meant by a floating flux field in his first patent. I think Mark Mckay was right all along. These equal and opposite coils hold the key to generating free energy. I know what i will be spending my time on from now.

Perhaps this SUPER spike is what is necessary to disturb the ether.

FREE ENERGY TO ALL

Nat

[Tishatang]

Nat
You can see standing waves form on a lake with two boats approaching each other. When they pass, their small wakes collide forming larger standing waves.

Super high waves are caused when the standing waves are in resonance within a closed system. Such as a sound chamber or electronic resonant circuit.

The most symmetrical coil in my opinion is the Smith Caduceus tensor coil. You start in the middle of the wire and wind it around the core. Much the same as putting new shoe laces on. You start at one end and as the wires come around they cross over each other just like shoe laces. It is described here :

Tensor Beam

It is a little different in that the waves cross at 90 degrees instead of crashing headon. But, the symmetry is perfect. I feel the crashing of magnetic fields creates these tensor, scalar?) waves.

Just other ideas to think about,
Chris

[nat1971a]

tishatang,

Yes the crashing of the waves according to sources on the NET apparently creates scalar waves. I also saw some references to stationary/standing waves and the flower of life as well. Which is all about sacred geometry and was what david hamels ufo technology was all about. So i am confident that this research of crashing opposing coils is on the right track. Edwin Grays first patent seems to be the most logical place to start. As there are photos of the floating flux field coils. They were apparently 10 turns of spark plug wire or something similar.

Nat

[elias]

Boyd Bushman's Levitiation Experiment

Hi,

The opposing coils mentioned in this thread caught my attention. I remember watching an interview of Boyd Bushman with David Sereda, and he was talking about reducing the effect of gravity by opposing magnetic fields, as he said he bought two powerful ring shaped Nd Magnets and screwed them together with opposing faces and then dropped it from a height, and he observed that it seemingly reduced the effect of gravity.

He argued that Gravity and Magnetism share a component and when magnetic fields are opposed some component of the Gravity cancels out.

Then he showed a coil which levitated when turned on which is demonstrated in this video: YouTube - UFO-Electromagnetic Levitation Demonstration

Elias