1872, Elihu Thomson - anyone got this document in scientific american 1872??

[nat1971a]

Here's a device comparison.The theory behind it is really open at this point.

All these devices have something in common...oppositely wound coils with probable high resistance causes a probable bunching effect...or polarity cancellation perhaps which in theory produces the radiant shock wave.

Enjoy!

[Raui]

Nat,
It's probably bleeding obvious but where did you get the picture of the Thomoson/Houston apparatus? Also great thread!

Raui

[nat1971a]

raui,

2nd link post 4 of this thread.


Nat

[nat1971a]

More info on thomson/ houston experiment

pages 173-174
pages 23-25



The Chemical news and journal of ... - Google Books

[baroutologos]

IMO do not look the answer too far from electricity. Radiant energy must be a form of electricity also.

Baroutologos

[boguslaw]

Not necessarily . I've posted possible explanation some time ago. It's a sonic effect - creating bubble in a steady-state magnetic field and collapsing it surely produce shockwave. Such bubble could be seen as magnetic or electric phenomena but it has to have very short life.
The exact equivalent of sonic collapse like that one : YouTube - Pistol Shrimp

[boguslaw]

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...html#post65325
I think it is also related to mass, in other words : it has to be connected with natural orientation of atoms and electrons in Earth magnetic field.

[boguslaw]

More info on thomson/ houston experiment

pages 173-174
pages 23-25



The Chemical news and journal of ... - Google Books

Great!
DO YOU SEE ? It's Edwin Gray "spliting the positive"

[nat1971a]

OMG i just noticed in edwin grays patent inductors 23 & 28 also (in the attachment of post 31 of this thread)...I know how this works now!!!!

Did you notice the symmetry too....

[boguslaw]

OMG i just noticed in edwin grays patent inductors 27 & 28 also (in the attachment of post 31 of this thread)...I know how this works now!!!!

Did you notice the symmetry too....

Please post a link to that post.

[nat1971a]

http://www.energeticforum.com/79939-post31.html

Heres the link. Review the attachment...And compare the inductors either side of the spark gaps to the thomson/houston device.

[baroutologos]

Regarding this coil wound opposite. If you study bedini's patent (not the monope , but the weird device one) he is using the opposite wounding style.

Also the Kromrey converter as depicted by Bedini in the board at EFTV 10, coils are wound oppositively, and if you think about it, a cancelation of polarity should occcur ( i have said it in the past also).

I do not have much hope(personally) the opposite wound coils have anything special to say. By the way, someone willing to experiment on that is cool i suppose.

Baroutologos

[Aaron]

magnetic current

OMG i just noticed in edwin grays patent inductors 27 & 28 also (in the attachment of post 31 of this thread)...I know how this works now!!!!

Did you notice the symmetry too....

I built that variation in the Gray patent - it is what beshires was so gung ho about in the Gray Tube Replication thread. It is following the exact principle
of colliding two positives and forcing them to common ground (between the
caps). That patent says those 2 coils are wound in the same polarity.
And the coils 23 & 24 is a bifilar choke in my opinion. Anyway, it worked
just about identical to all the other Gray circuits I built. But, that is with
the information provided and my builds never included anything that is
missing in the Gray patents, which of course, there is probably a lot
missing.

The experiment described in The Chemical News article sounds like it is
magnetic current.

What is A (capital A)? It is not defined in that article.

P is the spark gap in the "dark box" but what is the wire at the left side
going to? Just open to the air and not connected back to anything?

It is interesting they're pulling this "aetheric" force from the magnet cores
just like Ehrenhaft was with magnetic current:

Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles



Ehrenhaft was able to charge a soft iron core
with LIGHT.

[nat1971a]

A is a bar of iron/steel or cadmium as used by edison

[Aaron]

block diagrams

Thanks!

What about the wire coming out of the left side of the dark box connected
to the left side point?

Does it just go to earth ground, ground on the circuit, open air or something
else?