The Steorn Motor

[Michelinho]

I do believe the race is on for your top dollars.

Does Steorn want people replicating there motor? I do not think so....

I don't think he has a choice in the matter. I do believe that if he shows a working model, even an early cop>1 prototype, he is showing his cards prior to distribution of production models? Creates a demand in the units, sell all production at nice profit level ahead of the pack? The backers need their profit now while the economic system still runs?

Unless of course you spend the money to join the club.....

Replication should cost relatively little compared to retail units if you can get your hands on one.

They have not provided any details yet that give us enough information to do a "true" replication...

They have shown a model of something called Orbo. Even if it is an early prototype still lacking refinement, it is a big statement specially if Steorn shows a closed circuit.

Such things as size of the magnets, size of the toroids, what is the core material, how are they wound and with what size wire(s)..etc....

I prefer a working model to a vague Letters of Patent formulation. He has not shown a functional unit but more is yet to come, for now we have a nice simulation that resemble the model shown. There is just so many things you can hide in an acrylic model. It is OUR job to find out what he will not tell. This Forum is full of sharp and knowledgeable members, other Forums are also contributing, moved by the same motivations.

What does the hall sensor trigger?

Also the BIG part is the schematic showing what exactly they are doing to feed the pickup voltage back to the source battery.... (timing)

I would be happy to replicate but I want to do an exact replication not a guess.... then we can really compare apples and apples.....

Am I missing something, if so please enlighten me.....

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj

Many yet unanswered questions but the route is traced.

Hopes and Dreams, so True. But also so deliberately needed now. I hope to seek more knowledge by not only replicating but finding out what makes it tick. I for one would not pull a prank in front of an Irish audience.

Take care,

Michel

[tjnlsn255]

Hi Michel,

I look forward to tomorrows "latest" experiment on video....

If you experiment around and figure out the orbo and do a working replication feel free to share your design here and I will duplicate yours......

I am not smart enough to just look at the machine and make one.....

I need a schematic ..... etc......

I want to build one strong enough to spin a car alternator......;-)

I hope and dream that we really do get working closed loop replications here.....

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj

[Michelinho]

Hi tjnlsn255,

I want to build one strong enough to spin a car alternator......;-)

That is a load that the Orbo might not be able to fulfill. A Delcotron 60 Amps takes about 4-5 HP to run full load, a 100 A/h 7HP. Torque will depend on the size of the rotor and the max magnetic flux that can be used and still allow the release of the magnets from the toroids.

There is also the size of the rotor and number of magnet duets used per rotor and the sequence of firing. Ex.: two rotors with 4, 6 or 8 magnet duets per rotor, the rotors set in alternate firing position and feeding the rotors with each its own electronic (or mechanical) circuit.

If you experiment around and figure out the orbo and do a working replication feel free to share your design here and I will duplicate yours......

It is the FIRST thing I shall do.

One piece of information I have on toroids that might be of some use but not sure is if you have 2 toroids used as one. Let say you have 10 turns on the first toroid, wind with the same magnet wire 20 turns on the second toroid and come back to the first toroid with another 10 turns, the total equivalent of the result is a toroid with 20 X 20 turns or 400 turns. That is one thing that still bug me since I have never experimented the effect.

And I share your Hopes and Dreams on the self running charging device. ( I am getting 20 Nickel Iron battery cells ~750 A/h total and need one of those charging devices.)

Take care,

Michel

[Damian]

The latest model V3 currently under test...

Naudin has a new video on his site:

The Steorn magnetic motor replication by JL Naudin

[tjnlsn255]

Coil orientation...interesting...

In some models the coils are mounted horizontally and in other models the coils are mounted vertically.... very interesting.... does it work either way?

Just an observation.....

I sure wish I was a rich "hobbiest" ... a one year liscence to access their information data base is $628 US... I would expect to get a working orbo machine for that ..... LOL

To bad free energy is not free.....LOL

Hopes and Dreams....

Tj

[Karl_Palsness]

Now it is starting to get intersting!

As I said last week...I just did not get what all the fuss is about.

Well I think that this is starting to get way more interesting that I first thought.

The Steorn magnetic motor replication by JL Naudin

having done some more tests, this idea is by no way dead yet...and I think it is worth looking more into.

Thought you might like to see the latest from France...

Karl

[nilrehob]

fyi

Two more replicators that i know of:

YouTube - TinselKoala's Channel
YouTube - m1a9r9s9's Channel

/Hob

[Murlin]

very interesting indeed

As I said last week...I just did not get what all the fuss is about.

Well I think that this is starting to get way more interesting that I first thought.

The Steorn magnetic motor replication by JL Naudin

having done some more tests, this idea is by no way dead yet...and I think it is worth looking more into.

Thought you might like to see the latest from France...

Karl

Yes I am still extremely interested in his experiments.

Thanks for the heads up

I wonder why he doesn't use any ferrite on the rotor to increase the magnets strength and concentrate the flux?

Would it interfere with the magnetic field in the ferrite cores?

regards,
Murlin

[jibbguy]

Live Stream of the second scheduled Experiment going on NOW:

Steorn - Convenient, Clean and Constant supply of Energy

[Murlin]

alternator

He is using the top coils as an alternator....

OK, that does it...I gotta build one of these little gizmos and experiment with the schoolgirl and the steorn and see what's what for myself....

I have some magnetic sand I want to try for the cores. Bought it off the Net at the local Voodoo Shoppe

I will make a mold out of HDEP and use the sand for substrate with 5-min epoxy and see if that will work. I will make some 4"OD X 3" ID cores.

regards,

Murlin

[Karl_Palsness]

I tried the black sand...you are better off with a higher permeability core for this project. But that is just my opinion...

[Murlin]

I tried the black sand...you are better off with a higher permeability core for this project. But that is just my opinion...

How did you make your cores?

Each particle of magnetic sand has a north and a south pole. I was going to set the mold on top of a couple of large Neo's to align the polarity of all the grains.

regards,

Murlin

[tjnlsn255]

Ferrite versus powdered iron cores?

Does anyone know what the difference is between ferrite cores and powdered iron cores?

How does the mix of core material affect the magnetic field that is created?

Any and all information on toroid core materials would be very enlightning....

Hopes and Dreams,

Tj

[darkwizard]

Steorn is offering **** at a great amount of dollars

[Joit]

Does anyone know what the difference is between ferrite cores and powdered iron cores?

How does the mix of core material affect the magnetic field that is created?

Any and all information on toroid core materials would be very enlightning....

Hopes and Dreams,

Tj

Ferritcores demagnetize faster then Iron and have lesser or no memory effect.
But i dont think, that there is much different at the Field, what both create.
Probatly Ferrit makes a bit stronger one.
But i remember, that i read lately, Iron or ferrrit dont amplify the field,
it only reflect it from inside.