Open letter to P. Lindemann

[carbideTip]

If anyone was able to "produce more energy than they run on" they would be held in the highest regard ever in the history of man, period!

[Ted Ewert]

Well said h20power.
It takes a while to fully understand a new technology. You have to really think about it before it dawns on you what's actually going on.
I would bet that the great majority of people who build a Bedini SG don't really understand it. It's easy enough to understand electrically, but it has many subtleties that go unnoticed. There are different layers of understanding.
This is why building and experimenting are so important. The "failures" are the most important part. Those force you to think about every little detail and to carefully examine what you did. That's when learning and understanding takes place.
The physics we learn in school often bare little resemblance to what we find in the real world. It's not easy to unlearn and then relearn, but a certain amount of this is necessary. Like h20 said, it can open up a whole new world of understanding.

Ted

[jibbguy]

i dunno about that Carbide, the names of the guys who invented the "refrigerator" and the "air compressor" are pretty much lost to history, and are not exactly "house hold names"

Do we know who invented the first laser capable of shooting a satellite out of space?

The first particle beam weapon of the same caliber (well, Tesla is said to, but in our modern age anyway)?

Or the name of the inventor of that sound energy weapon that is now being deployed for "crowd control"?

I never heard these last 3 names, and am not likely to in common usage. The weapons are secret.

Most in the scientific community know the name "Edward Teller", but how many common folk know it?

The name "Tesla" on the other hand, is rather well known these days

[carbideTip]

Sorry jibbguy I don't understand your analogy. What does refrigerator's and air compressor's have to do with OU?

[h20power]

Sorry jibbguy I don't understand your analogy. What does refrigerator's and air compressor's have to do with OU?

I think what he meant CarbideTip is the names of the people that have done the most to change humanities way of life are unknown to us, forgotten in time. Even Tesla, who's technology is all around us, is largely forgotten. Ask the typical person on the street to name the one man that has changed the world the most and that person will never even think of Nikola Tesla. It is his technology that gives us our energy at the moment and all that has been created in doing so afterwards is to be also credited to just one man, Nickola Tesla. But that is what happens if you cross the Ruling Class, you are taken out of history. For the most part the world thinks Thomas Edison is the one that changed the world, but it is Nikola Tesla that made these changes possible. Without Nikola Tesla's work we'd still be mostly in the dark as DC is very hard to transfer over long distances, and the alternator of a car too would have never been thought of, still would have been using the DC generators. When it comes to the greatest world changers the world has ever known, Nikola Tesla should be at the top of that list. For without AC we would not have most of the things we have today, computers, cell phones, TV's, air conditioning, none of it. But today he is a forgotten man for the most part.

Hope that helps,

h2opower.

[jibbguy]

When the temperature gradient changes from compression or expansion are considered with the use of air compressors, the COP can be greater than "1". Unlike Heat Pumps, this energy cannot be considered to be coming "from the sun", since it is due to molecular movement.

Which BTW, was not even understood back in the 1860's when the THEORIES that later became "The Laws of Thermodynamics" were first written. But that doesn't matter anyway; because those "Laws" have been proved WRONG in some instances and mainstream science certainly knows it, beyond doubt.

Whether this heating due to compressing, and cooling due to expansion energy is actually "used" for anything or not, does not matter; it still exists.

So the point was, that such a device is already sitting in our garages and no one gets excited about it, or even remembers the name of the person(s) who invented it.

... Breaking that old argument we always hear that: "If there was OU we would know about it".

Besides which, there are lots of things going on in the world of Science that "we" (the public at large) don't know about... and are not going to be told about any time soon, either lol Like secret weapons capabilities.

Your argument for us the public "knowing" these things were possible would first have to prove that we would be told about it if it hadn't already happened. There is evidence that it has happened many times already and it has been suppressed; by the same people who routinely suppress information on weapons. Federal gag orders to remain silent on Patent Applications, the "secretization" of them, has been reported to have happened over 3,000 times (and specifically with free energy-related Applications), by a U.S. Patent Office employee, Dr. Thomas Valone. Who btw, is still working there at USPA at least part time according to Sterling Allen. So even after very publicly first making this statement over 3 years ago, he still does work there.

Is it "impossible" that at least SOME of these Applications were illegally and immorally secretized as a corrupt method of stopping TOTALLY SAFE technologies from reaching market? For instance, at the behest of a major corporation who will lose greatly when such technologies do finally reach market? Considering all the proofs we have every year of "non-conspiracy theory related" every-day crime, corruption, and graft in government.... That would be a pretty hard sell to most people when they look at it from this angle

These "secretizations" are done by a panel at the Pentagon, and are NOT subject to Congressional approval, or even oversight. Lol considering how many Admirals and Generals retire then take jobs for over a $1 million a year with major corps.... There certainly is "motive" there.

And it doesn't even have to be any "big conspiracy" either.... Just every day graft and the usual "little" conspiracies that people are convicted of thousands of times each year in this country by our Judges.

[carbideTip]

I guess my point is there are many people who have changed this world in there fields and are held in high regard. I'm not here to debate what can and cannot be done. I don't mean any disrespect to Mr Lindemann. I know he has work hard in this field and is respected by many including me. But the statement seems a bit disingenuous does it not? It's like saying I know the cure for cancer but I don't have the time or money to make it happen and I'm not going to tell you how to do it.

[boguslaw]

What next ? Assuming that someone will find a nice simple way to create OU device allowing theoretically to power house or automobile.
Is there any possibility that he can obtain help to make a commercial grade device : fully automatic ,nice,cheap and safe ?

Actually I don't see it can be done without money :-(
Look what has happened to Richard Willis who found a way to produce up to 50kW of power and planned to build a power plant.Nothing!
He is buried in some hidden lab experimenting with various circuits and coils.
Slow progress...a lot of money needed..

Directory:Magna Coaster Motor Company - PESWiki

[boguslaw]

Oh, actually he is selling his units:
Products

no luck, I need at least 30kW to heat my house

[blackchisel97]

C.o.p

Sorry jibbguy I don't understand your analogy. What does refrigerator's and air compressor's have to do with OU?

They represent a device demonstrating C.O.P>1

Vtech

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, time to throw in my 2 nuggets. The world not having these excess energy devices is not due to money in any way whatsoever, it is due to the spiritual level of this world thus far, which has nothing to do with religion, it has to do with consciousness and the collective which determines when a world will manifest these things for all. Money is the old paradigm and in the old paradigm, no such devices would ever see the light of day. All may wish to believe anything you want or as the reality field would have you programmed to believe. it is a choice, always has been, choose wisely.
peace love light
Tyson

[Inquorate]

Putting my neck out there again

Ok, first things first, this will be hodge-podge and presented awkwardly; such is the way my brain works..

All overunity devices I have run across tend to run cooler than the ambient temperature. It is possible to shift heat from one area to another with these machines. If something is hot, something else will be colder.

Now, that is astonishing. Period.

Using a simple battery and a resistor across the terminals (which spends most of it's time destroying the work done to charge the battery) we can make heat, but nothing else gets colder.

With an ou system, we find that if it is not properly balanced in a state of imbalance (like a boulder atop a mountain which threatens to do work but never does) then the heat we lose in one part can manifest in another and burn out our LED's or transistors etc.

Sometimes, like with the ainslie device, we can fine tune the system to place the extra heat (work added) where we want.

People, we are doing something that can cause heat to move, or apparently turn heat into a more useable part of the electromagnetic spectrum.

Now, that doesn't make sense, and when something doesn't make sense as a causal property, then the what we thought was a causal property is indeed an effect, and we will find a previously unknown cause underlying the heat loss or transfer of energy. This underlying cause will make sense.

So, what are we doing that can make our machines cold? To understand where our heat is going, we need to understand where it came from.

Now, one might go conventional and say that heat is distributed to earth by the sun. That is mostly correct, but not entirely.

The lightest element, helium or hydrogen (i can never remember which name goes where), never turns from a liquid into a solid. Never, even at absolute zero. At zero Kelvin, it remains a superfluid.

From whence does the energy to sustain this energetic state come from? Not from the sun. We have to assume it is coming from somewhere else outside of the atom's mass. If this energy had mass, it would freeze. But we know it cannot because it keeps the hydrogen? fluid.

So, the source of this energy must have no mass. It is massless, and has a minimum ground state energy which it is not permitted to go below.

This is important to realise, because it cannot have a minimum ground state energy and also be a static force.

The 'energy source' must be kinetic; it is in a constant state of flux, and therefore if we push on it by displacing it with the one thing it cannot be - mass - then it will push back on that mass.

Now, given that we know it is kinetic, the force it applies on mass will have to go into the mass. This force cannot be static like water in a cup; and we have established why above.

So, why does mass not grow more massive? where does this extra energy go? Where does the river flow?

The aether hits mass on all sides, either macroscopically re the planets or the sun, or microscopically as in an 'elementary particle'

Cont...

[carbideTip]

They represent a device demonstrating C.O.P>1

Vtech

Show me a AC unit or air compressor that runs itself. You understand why its C.O.P>1 right?

[Inquorate]

To see want is happening, we can visualise a bath tub full of water.

Now, the aether is massless and kinetic. Mass has mass (for all intents and purposes this is agreed on in science, and will suffice for now) and is static.

In the bath analogy, we'll switch it around 180 degrees, and say that the water is the aether, and that the elementary particle is 'not water'. Co,es let's pull the bath plug out and make a 2D vortice (keeping in mind, a particle may be an 11D vortice)...

ignoring the water going down the drain just for now, we see the water rushing in the fill the 'not water', but in doing so, sustaining the vortice.

That is what the aether is doing with mass. I'll tell you a secret, there's no mass.

Now, in the real world, the aether does not go down the drain. If it did, we'd never see colour or hear sound or feel heat or cold. In dynamically sustaining the mass vortice ( creating gravity in line with the net direction of flow ) and re-radiating the energy in the electromagnetic spectrum, the aether is constantly creating all that there is.

When too much mass gathers in one spot, such as with the critical mass of uranium, the aether cannot sustain the vortice; too mich feedback, and the energy in the whirling vortice is immediately released until a stable vortice is formed.

Now, setting aside the possibilities for a moment (which are mind staggering), let's consider the beast; electromagnetism.

We can stress the aetheric currents with voltage fields and magnetic fields. When we do that; say we make a magnetic field, we have to push. The aether just sets up a new equilibrium.

When we release the magnetic field, the aether sets up a new equilibrium, and letting go of the field can cost us nothing. The re-establishment of the aetheric equilibrium is kinetic, and is for free.

Cont...

[Inquorate]

Now, let's look back at the simple battery and resistor from positive to negative.

if we measure the watts from the battery positive to resistor, and we also measure the watts from the resistor to the battery negative, we will find a slight difference. If we put the resistor in a calorometer, we would find the 'lost' joules there; a small fraction of the energy lost in total by the battery.

Why? Because we are destroying the source of the energy far more rapidly than we are using it, by destroying the voltaic stress of the battery on the aether. We use the aether woefully inefficiently to destroy the very source of energy.

So, how do we make a device that does not destroy the initial condition that is powering our resistor? We use the flow of electrons to charge another battery, or better yet, switch so quickly that the inertia of the electrons and their aether is not overcome; then all we will have is the aether moving - just like a boat anchored in a river that the water flows past.

Now, we can use that source dipole to shove the aether out of equilibrium; the aether flows from positive to negative - from the sky to the earth, so we can utilise a real ground or a large mass.

We can utilise a coil or a cap, recover as much as we can from stressing the electromagnetic fields of force, an is a transformer or movement of a motor.

And when we remove that stress, we need to provide a way to trick the aether as it sets a new equilibrium, to do some work for us.

There, that's the big secret. Now quit all the yapping and let's think and build and think and build