Solar Radiation Shielding

[Bodkins]

I do feel ''something coming'' but I think it is not from the sun, but outside the galaxy. I meditated just now, and in all honest craziness, I had the impression of 'when the solar flares are suppressed, the time has come'

Now, I take that with a grain of salt the size of the moon; probably complete nonsense.

However, if dr paul laviolette's interview with project camelot (on yt or google videos) are anything to go on, it's radiation or cosmic rays from 'outside', not a changing sun, that are a possible cause of increased skin cancer.

I've got no solutions to share, but I don't believe what is coming will be quite as cataclysmic as popular media is now portraying. Having said that though, I've been moving away from the coast for years now.

Let the chips fall where they may.

Hi all Ive been away to rebuild me and bring good in to me. anyway Im back and understand the realms of life above and below Ive been there!
Have met people that can switch lights off at distance and if i go to high in freq. I crash computers
anyway dont worry.
YouTube - Crop Circle 2009 Decoded : The Message is hope for 2012

[thedude]

Hey Bodkins. Nice to see you here.
It is definitely encouraging to know that we are not heading for trouble without help. I recently launched www.ETaffairs.com - Your Portal Here on Earth. Another youtube clone related to the increasing number of UFO sightings around the world as well as some documentary from the Billy Meier case and another compelling study of the Carlos Diaz experience. Some great video content there that i have hand picked as unique and as authentic as can be determined through filter analysis that i've been able to do on my own. Thanks for the video and i'm going to add the category of "Crop Circles" to the site. I've been following them for years now and i'm convinced of some of their validity although just like UFO sightings, there are alot of hoaxes. That does not discredit the others that do stand up to scrutiny well, such as the Carl Sagen messages.

I phoned Mars Metals and i'm waiting for a fellow there named David to call me back to discuss pricing on 1/32" sheet lead. I will need aprox 600 sq ft to entirely cover my slab area. I made this composite sketch in Photoshop to help explain my garage slab bunker.
(edit) Recieved a call from David at Mars Metals and he says that they sell rolls of 1/32" thick 4x10' dimension at @ $166.10 per roll. I would need 15 rolls to completely cover my slab for $2491.50. Close to what my cement will cost. That price didn't include shipping, which i have to guess is going to run the bill up closer to $3000 . Was to be expected. Said the price gets better with more than 50 rolls.


At this point i have 20 yards of "A" base gravel piled in my yard and i've drawn up my basic garage plans and just finished line locates with my local waterworks, electrical, and telephone company. I have my building permit ready to turn in and start getting the ball rolling.

I should start by explaining that i intend upon pouring the slab and excavating the interior of the space beneath it afterwards through the pit entrance. This might sound quite difficult, however i'm not confident in trying to shore up form work for a slab of this dimension from beneath a void area, should i excavate the space first. I know i have a huge task ahead of me in excavating by hand. I have first hand experience at doing so when working in Calgary on the Spy Hill Jail. We had to cut into a section of floor and excavate by hand to find leaking pipe work in a number of areas. Was not fun but very possible. I still enjoy physical labour that is progressive.

I have a 3'x8' - 2" angle Iron frame that seats a 3 piece grating that will cover my mechanics pit. I will need to excavate the pit first and do it in 3 separate pours. 1st is the pit wall footings, followed by the pit walls with grating frame inset on top, 3rd pour will be the steps. I plan to inset a metal door into the wall opposite to the steps down into the mechanics pit. Mechanics pit should only be 5'6" from the top of the slab to pit floor (my scale is incorrect on mechanics pit depth in drawing).
The sheet lead could be embedded completely in the cement but might cause a breakable bond between the two separate layers of cement above and below the lead layer. Vertical pieces of rebar would need to be stabbed through the lead layer to eliminate the potential for problems with the slab cracking or fracturing apart from itself. Having worked as a concrete finisher for many years, i know that this slab would be a tricky pour involving pouring in the first layer of cement covering bottom layer of 10 mm rebar. Floating a smooth area upon which to lay the leaded sheet goods in workable and reachable sections, adding the top layer of horizontal rebar grid as well as vertical rebar "stabs" and then the top layer of cement. It would be tricky but not at all impossible.

There are alot of considerations that are not included in this picture, but it is a good start. Thats what i'm proposing to build. As soon as the snow melts i'm starting my mech pit.

[Stealth]

Your layout looks good, but if it were me, I would also allow for an earthquake scenario. That's a lot of concrete above your head. I would allow for some movement with expansion joints, just to be on the safe side. There are so many variables and scenarios that could happen, it would not hurt to be prepared in case they happened. The best of Luck with your project, and
I hope it works out like planned. Stealth

[thedude]

Your layout looks good, but if it were me, I would also allow for an earthquake scenario. That's a lot of concrete above your head. I would allow for some movement with expansion joints, just to be on the safe side. There are so many variables and scenarios that could happen, it would not hurt to be prepared in case they happened. The best of Luck with your project, and
I hope it works out like planned. Stealth

Thanks Stealth. I appreciate that. Hopefully this thread might be useful to others at some point. I'm definitely trying to put together as much good info as possible. As far as earthquake protection, I'm living in the mid prairies of Canada. There is not much tectonic plate activity around these parts, however i'm planning on using double 10mm rebar on 1' centers through out the pad so can not imagine there being much trouble with any kind of shifting. Also planning on using 5000 psi cement or as strong as i can really purchase. That sort of reinforcement could literally handle having the whole slab lifted up by one edge without breaking. There is also epoxy modified cement, but i'm not sure if it available from my local cement suppliers. Also thinking about embedding a layer of copper mesh sheeting (1" grid) and have leads to connect to it from one end to another. This would provide additional strength as well as EMF protection. Might make sense to lay this layer in close to the surface while bull floating the pad, so that if there is a possibility of it actually conducting solar radiation while inhibiting EMF, that it would be above the lead or water protective layer. [Edit - Having second thoughts about copper mesh embedded in cement as it is a porous material and copper would likely corrode quickly]

Turns out water or liquid hydrogen might be a good, if not even safer alternative than lead according to Nasa researchers. looks like it works well for cosmic rays as well. hmmm. who knew. Always seems like the simplest answers are always the best. :P Was also pleased to find that they are developing an electrostatic shield of sorts. Sounds like the holy grail. :P

Also occured to me that an Orgone Accumulator might be just the device to help scrub radiated oxygen from outside. I have little experience with these devices so would love it if anyone really familiar could help clue me in.

Also wanted to mention that i've purchased a portable cement mixer from Home Depot to batch parts of my mech pit myself as i am a distance from cement plants and it will comprise of 3 separate but relatively small pours. Mixer will be key for cinder block wall construction on the interior. Its a sweet mixer.

Lots to think about.

[Stealth]

Sounds like you pretty much have it all figured out. There is super insulaton called aerogel, which can be purchased as a blanket or sheets. It is far superior to any other insulation out there. I will use this if and when I build a new house. It is probably expensive, but so is energy usage. You could possibly use it to super insulate your bunker. Good Luck. Stealth

[thedude]

Sounds like you pretty much have it all figured out. There is super insulaton called aerogel, which can be purchased as a blanket or sheets. It is far superior to any other insulation out there. I will use this if and when I build a new house. It is probably expensive, but so is energy usage. You could possibly use it to super insulate your bunker. Good Luck. Stealth

Ya Aerogel is the coolest matter we have, or rather can stay the coolest. I saw some on Techtv awhile ago, but you piqued my interests on it. Found a good vid on youtube I wish money wasn't an object or you could rest assured that if i could afford it i would. You've got me thinking a bit about temperature and methods of cooling and/or heating a temporary stay inside. Issues like water storage and recycling (I have HHO/Propane(Geet or Joe Pipe)burners in mind. Much smaller scale than Joe Pipe but augmenting HHO with Propane is what i have in mind. Been fracturing HHO efficiently with my Dual Oscillator (need to put up a new video of it running with spark gap on HHO cell). Perhaps there is a way to condense the emitted water vapour for drinking. Possibly use heat energy for cooling as well??? I literally need a pile of cash and a couple years off to put everything i want together.

Truth be known, I've had this project in the works for more than a year now and have been shuffling along with it. I feel like the wheels are in motion again, but finances aways seem to grind them to a sudden halt. Its all progressive, even the down time to conceive of new ideas is useful sometimes.

I plan on detailing the bunker project completely and probably going to set up a web site dedicated to it before too terribly long.

Thanks again.

[thedude]

Thanks Panacea!

Really need to add here that i also intend on investing some serious time into the use of Spatial Energy Coherence (SEC) Technology By Stiffler Scientific (PDF), Rosemary Ainslie COP 17 Heater Technology (PDF) as well as the Cloud Busting PDF which quite literally sound like it would make a great air scrubber. I may have been sleeping on these technologies but i havent had my eyes closed to them either. Thanks Panacea University!

[sucahyo]

So, you intend to build a pond or pool on top of your bunker? Some plants are said to reduce radiation in a water (sorry forget which, maybe related to iodine). The water should help reduce the temperature in case of hot wave reach the bunker.

Heat can also shielded with vacuum or trapped air in between walls. This should reduce the need of energy for active cooling or heating. There is a commercial solution. Maybe it is a good idea to buy Peter's book which mention where to get this material.


If you don't connect the copper sheet and the lead sheet together you may get yourself a big earth battery. Who know, maybe it have enough power to turn on Joule thief hundreds of LEDs .