Rodin Coil Tests and Replications

[rave154]

hi all

finally finished the 1,2,4,8,7,5 circuit & PIC32 thingy.....seems to be outputting the right stuff......see attatchment

on the scope, the centre horizontal line is zero DC volts...

im outputting 1.5V, 3V, 6V, 12V, 10.5V, 7.5V which of cousre are all 1,2,4,8,7,5 x 1.5 ( i chose this so the 8 would be @ 12V )

now to hook it up to the coil and see what happens.....wish me luck

p.s thanks a bunch 'bits' & others :-)

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

hi all

finally finished the 1,2,4,8,7,5 circuit & PIC32 thingy.....seems to be outputting the right stuff......see attatchment

on the scope, the centre horizontal line is zero DC volts...

im outputting 1.5V, 3V, 6V, 12V, 10.5V, 7.5V which of cousre are all 1,2,4,8,7,5 x 1.5 ( i chose this so the 8 would be @ 12V )

now to hook it up to the coil and see what happens.....wish me luck

p.s thanks a bunch 'bits' & others :-)

Nice David, great job!

[Golden Mean]

Excellent

Great job rave154!

Looking forward to seeing what happens.

Thank you.
Ahimsa,

[rave154]

hi all,

see attatchment,

i ve hooked up the Rodin coil to the 1,2,4,8,7,5 pulse circuit,

at first i tried the normal stuff anyone would try, connecting the output of the pulse circuit to the 1st winding of the rodin.....and placing the scope across the 2nd winding of the rodin, some spikes, 10v to 12 v, nothing major,

then i placed a pickup coil in the middle of the rodin, and again placed the scope across it..again...some spikes....same range.....10-15 v.....nothing major..

now im stuck.....what do i do now?

so i wire the pulse circuit like the following...

+ ( out put of circuit) to A-1 ( start of winding A of Rodin )

A-2( end of winding A ) to B-1 ( start of winding B)

B-2 to negative of pulse circuit....basically....both windings in "series" so to speak

played around with the scope, nothing to report, placed a spherical neo in the middle of the rodin....some humming , a lil jiggling......nothing to write home about

so now im REALLY stuck.......what to do next ?? i appear to have exhausted all my options...

now pay attention to this next part.....cos......either ive made a really dumb ass mistake here........or ive stumbled onto some thing....

i remembered a video by nilrehob....where he wound a bi-filar coil around a ferrite rod......then, on one of the windings, in the middle of it.......he snipped it.....so that it was no longer connnected in the middle...

on each end of this snipped winding he placed his singal gen pulse......and placed his scope on the other complete winding...with 2V inpuit on his pulse....he was getting a greatly increased voltage on the other complete winding....

this sprang to my mind... so i wired up the circuit as per the attatchment...

in other words..... + of the pulse circuit goes to A-2 of Rodin

(-) of the pulse circuit goes to B-1 of the rodin...in other words....there is NO ELECTRICAL connection between B-1 & A-" for the pulse circuit to have a current flowing through......


like wise at the same time, i connect a 12v bulb from B-2 to A-1.....again NO ELECTRICAL connection between these wires....

i ran my program which sends out the 1,2,4,8,7,5 pulses...and the bulb LIT to full brightness continually !!! ...........the analogue meter on the input battery was registering about 80mA ( its a 120mA bulb )

so...i rem,oved the bulb.....and replaced it with a 12V DC motor that i was using for magnet gen stuff...

i ran the program...the motor WHIZZES !!!!!! and....as it gets faster....for a short time....the amp draw goes down

WTF???????

[rave154]

re:- my last post.........am i missing something in regards to a bi-filar wound coil......some thing obvious?

[sucahyo]

hi all,

tided up the circuit ( attatched )

hows it looking so far? any obvious mistakes im making?

I think this kind of configuration can make any kind of transistor die. Good thing the slow optocoupler help reduce the effect by slowing down the transistor shut off operation. But, is slow shut off what you want?

I think you can prevent transistor from dying by utilizing the BEMF. Suggestion attached.


Did you vary frequency during experiment?

Off topic: If we wrap wire around rodin coil, it become TPU lol.

[Inquorate]

hi all,

see attatchment,

i ve hooked up the Rodin coil to the 1,2,4,8,7,5 pulse circuit,

at first i tried the normal stuff anyone would try, connecting the output of the pulse circuit to the 1st winding of the rodin.....and placing the scope across the 2nd winding of the rodin, some spikes, 10v to 12 v, nothing major,

then i placed a pickup coil in the middle of the rodin, and again placed the scope across it..again...some spikes....same range.....10-15 v.....nothing major..

now im stuck.....what do i do now?

so i wire the pulse circuit like the following...

+ ( out put of circuit) to A-1 ( start of winding A of Rodin )

A-2( end of winding A ) to B-1 ( start of winding B)

B-2 to negative of pulse circuit....basically....both windings in "series" so to speak

played around with the scope, nothing to report, placed a spherical neo in the middle of the rodin....some humming , a lil jiggling......nothing to write home about

so now im REALLY stuck.......what to do next ?? i appear to have exhausted all my options...

now pay attention to this next part.....cos......either ive made a really dumb ass mistake here........or ive stumbled onto some thing....

i remembered a video by nilrehob....where he wound a bi-filar coil around a ferrite rod......then, on one of the windings, in the middle of it.......he snipped it.....so that it was no longer connnected in the middle...

on each end of this snipped winding he placed his singal gen pulse......and placed his scope on the other complete winding...with 2V inpuit on his pulse....he was getting a greatly increased voltage on the other complete winding....

this sprang to my mind... so i wired up the circuit as per the attatchment...

in other words..... + of the pulse circuit goes to A-2 of Rodin

(-) of the pulse circuit goes to B-1 of the rodin...in other words....there is NO ELECTRICAL connection between B-1 & A-" for the pulse circuit to have a current flowing through......


like wise at the same time, i connect a 12v bulb from B-2 to A-1.....again NO ELECTRICAL connection between these wires....

i ran my program which sends out the 1,2,4,8,7,5 pulses...and the bulb LIT to full brightness continually !!! ...........the analogue meter on the input battery was registering about 80mA ( its a 120mA bulb )

so...i rem,oved the bulb.....and replaced it with a 12V DC motor that i was using for magnet gen stuff...

i ran the program...the motor WHIZZES !!!!!! and....as it gets faster....for a short time....the amp draw goes down

WTF???????

Very cool. Is there a way to measure input v output? 80ma to 120ma seems very good as an indicator.

Have you tried a regular Bifilar coil? How does that perform with respect to a Rodin coil?

Keep up the good work, watching closely

[rave154]

hi all,
just realised tyhat the way i had it wired up ( last post ) i had made one big complete circuit.....+ of output, through winding 1....to bulb...through winding B...then to (-) of output....a big Z shaped circuit

[sucahyo]

Instead of pulsing the rodin, how about use it to capture energy? I am talkin about TPU configuration.

You use the rodin coil as output coil. You connect load to the rodin coil and you wrap wire around the rodin coil and pulse it with your circuit. Vary the frequency too.

pulse the blue winding.


I may post the wrong winding direction.....I think you should try the opposite first.

[rave154]

suchayo,

thanks,

when i get back from work i will try winding your suggestion and will try pulsing both the Rodin and the blue coil too

[rave154]

hi all,
been playing with my rodin pulse circuit,

see attatchment...

when wired up as on the left, the bulb lights fully...and.....if i replace it with a 100 ohm resistor....i can see the 1,2,4,8,7,5 signal clearly on the scope

however....when i wire it as on the right... bulb does not light....and no signal is present on the scope other than positive and negative spikes

A-1 & A-2 are the start and ending of the first winding on the Rodin coil

B1 & B2 are the start and ending of the 2nd winding of the rodin coil

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

hi all,
been playing with my rodin pulse circuit,

see attatchment...

when wired up as on the left, the bulb lights fully...and.....if i replace it with a 100 ohm resistor....i can see the 1,2,4,8,7,5 signal clearly on the scope

however....when i wire it as on the right... bulb does not light....and no signal is present on the scope other than positive and negative spikes

A-1 & A-2 are the start and ending of the first winding on the Rodin coil

B1 & B2 are the start and ending of the 2nd winding of the rodin coil

Hi David, in the first drawing your light illuminates due to mutual inductance. You can actually tell which way the current is flowing by placing a diode in the circuit first one way then the opposite. Light should glow one way and not the other. In the second drawing, there is no mutual inductance because the connection points are essentialy at the same reference value.

Bit's

[rave154]

suchayo,

i just treied your idea of winidng the blue coil around the rodin and pulsing it...

i tried the windings of thr rodin in all of the combinations as a pickup coil........no luck :-(

[rave154]

BITS,

thanks for the reply,

but does this still apply to a rodin coil ?

remember......the wires of both windngs of the rodin are not 'next' to each other...as they would be for a standard bi-filar coil, in fact on the rodin coil...theres very LITTLE proximity of the winidng A to winding B, they do cross paths here and there...but certainly not the standard "mutal inductance" one would associate with "right next to each other wires"

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

BITS,

thanks for the reply,

but does this still apply to a rodin coil ?

remember......the wires of both windngs of the rodin are not 'next' to each other...as they would be for a standard bi-filar coil, in fact on the rodin coil...theres very LITTLE proximity of the winidng A to winding B, they do cross paths here and there...but certainly not the standard "mutal inductance" one would associate with "right next to each other wires"

Now your seeing what "radiant" energy is all about. Wires do not have to be close to one another to "feel the love" the others are giving off.

Bit's