Free Energy Device Working - COP ∞ - Please Replicate This

[Mark]

There was one interesting Mylow video I saw where he held up some magnetic viewing film and showed a magnetic wave when the magnets went by the film.

[Joit]

Amigo
you did allready start the contest, anyhow, i can not hear 'mylow' anymore,
especially when its used for to debunk something to be the great enlightener,
ie, when it comes close to a similar Howard Johnson Device.

Hows about to stay sober and try to estimate if something works or not,
but not to start with the first Estimation of a Mylow.
And if you say, you tried it allready, then i dont understand your doubts.
Else there should be an other Problem for you, that it dont works,
as only 2 Lines, what you did maybe see.

But true Jibbguy,
it seems it works well, that the Word Mylow is deep injected into a width area from much Peoples Thinking,
and they do her best, to keep it presentable.

But btw, why dont blame all other Inventors and compare with, which has allready a Patent,
and dont work, when you rebuild them.
Some do even start allready with the TPU and blame Mannix, S Hartman and others for it, allready found a Page on the Net about that.

And well, Mylow seems is still fighting with his Device, to get it working, or not.

2 Ring Magnets, they actually works only at a Distance from ~5 cm,
but they are anyway weak, therefor there is less from this Effect.
I think Bars are better for that.

[blackchisel97]

2 Ring Magnets, they actually works only at a Distance from ~5 cm,
but they are anyway weak, therefor there is less from this Effect.
I think Bars are better for that.

I agree, there is quite a difference. I have tried both. My bars are approx. 2"x1"x0.4" ceramic. I'm busy with Tesla Switch at the moment but will come back to this idea.


Vtech

[sseti]

hy all

interesting aproach:

YouTube - Basic magnetic array track. A review of attraction vs repulsion

[amigo]

Oh man, some of you are so paranoid...

jubbguy and Joit, *nobody* is after you to get you, especially not in here. Unless your lives are monotonous that you seek some kind of excitement in the form a secret agent scenario. You know, kill the bad guy, save the World and get the girl at the end.

Alas, I spent a better part of the day playing with the ceramic bar magnets I have and at the first glance it would appear that the principle in the video shown has merit.

Unfortunately after hours of playing I came to realize that there still is a sticky spot at the exit point and the magnet does not get released or pushed away (at least during my experiments).

This is simply not perceptible when you suspend it on a bearing an hold it with your hand, but if you build a rail or a carousel and let it play on its own it's a different story.

Some level of shielding seems to be necessary and perhaps custom magnet configurations as well. Thus many will stop here as not everyone has a diamond saw ready to cut magnets to custom designs.

[jibbguy]

Amigo, my life is pretty interesting, actually But then i was always easily amused and never bored... I guess it must be all those inner voices and imaginary friends

And no i am not a secret agent... like millions of other regular folks around the world, am proud to be "an agent for change". No training or security vetting is required for this.. Just the desire to see a better planet and future. And yes i am damned proud of being that; and don't give a flip over what says about me "psychologically".

BTW reading over my last post, i did not want to imply anything to anyone here at this thread... People disagree honestly with me all the time and i don't mind at all or suspect them of anything but having questionable opinions lol (just kidding). This is how dialog works. My rant about the "mylow" thing was lurking for a chance to come out for a long time. And BTW if anyone is interested in that discussion, ive got several points to support my claim of it being a "professionally done disinfo job".
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Today we reached "2000 members" at the Free Energy Facebook Group, i am happy to state It took 9 months to get there. Hopefully the next 2k will only take a few months as i have figured out "how it works" there now and also because the word is spreading on its own now. Many thanks to all of you who have gone there.

[broli]

Dr.K.Yin if you believe there's a net force then you must also believe in the force in the attached diagram, which will pull the magnet in and not pull it back. So if you can prove that this idea has substance. I believe you have jumped the gun a bit too early but we'll see.

[Zooty]

I tried it and it does work just like what was shown in the video. I used my bedini wheel magnets. It worked so well i am going to try and build something that rotates. I spent all day observing the effect and so far in my mind there is no obvious reason why this wont work with a bit of tinkering. What tipped me over the edge was the fact that at the right distance and positioning, there was no noticeable problem spots. If the stator is too close, you get repulsion. I tried this on its side because i wanted to see if there was any attraction after the magnet gets pushed. I am pretty sure that even if there is, its definitely much weaker than the initial push so in my mind there is definitely more force in one direction than the other, enough for me to make an effort to build something. Play with it first and make up your own mind.

[Aaron]

rotary linear track

I have built rotary linear tracks.

If you take rectangle magnets for example, put them all north or south
up...all has to be same and you push them into a long narrow line,
the magnets try to push apart, but if you pin them there, glue or whatever
and put a single rectangle magnet of the same kind on the line of magnets
orthogonally or perpendicularly, it will move in one direction.

Fixed track moving magnet.

So I put the linear track around a 10 speed wheel, pushed the magnets
together and taped them and for example, leave one magnet out.

Then take the normally moving magnet and sit it at the bottom like
where a Bedini coil would go, the wheel rotates. When it comes to
the gap, the sticky spot, just bend the magnet over so the gap glides
by and raise the magnet back up.

So to keep the whole wheel moving, you only need to move the magnet
back and forth about 1-2 cm's.

My plan was to fix the magnet to some spring loaded base where if
you pulled it over a couple cm's and let go, it would pop back up
perpendicularly. So on the shaft, I was going to put a lever that would
simply push the magnet over right before the gap, and when gap passed
level would pass and magnet would spring back up.

I did this 10 years ago when I worked down the street from Bedini.

I didn't do the spring loaded magnet deal with level but the wheel would
turn with almost doing nothing other than just moving one single
magnet from perpendicular to a couple cm's over and back up again.

The speed would get going pretty good too. Just make sure the magnets
are pushed together end to end.

That may be a little off topic, but just watching this thread closesly
because I have spent a lot of time in the past with this stuff and it is
addicting.

Perpetual motion sickness lol

[Matthew Jones]

This is funny.

The author who ever he was had some clue as to how to make it work. The text is about 50% accurate. The drawings on the other hand seem to be wrong, or he misunderstood what it was he was looking at.
I am not sure about the test shown in the movie, I didn't watch it. Don't need to join anything else.

This is the magnetic arrangement described by the text.

The author is also somewhat correct about the angles at which the driven magnets need to line up to this arrangement. But although he mentions them he does not mention that a 360 deg circle of driven magnets will not line up with the arrangement except for a very small amount of time. Probably not enough to drive a closed loop. I think he was aware that, that was a more complicated problem, he mentioned not discussing it at this time.

Johnson had already solved this. Whether it worked or not I have no clue.
Cutting magnets this accurate is still not a possibility for me. I have for sometime looked at Howard Johnson's Twist Motor shown in the Bedini films.
I believe to be not functional as shown but with a few additional magnets it would be.

This assembly without greater detail is not functional in a closed loop.

Its real easy to find little ways that make it feel possible but they don't scale up.

Wish I had something better to say about it.

Matt

[elias]

I have built rotary linear tracks.

So to keep the whole wheel moving, you only need to move the magnet
back and forth about 1-2 cm's.

My plan was to fix the magnet to some spring loaded base where if
you pulled it over a couple cm's and let go, it would pop back up
perpendicularly. So on the shaft, I was going to put a lever that would
simply push the magnet over right before the gap, and when gap passed
level would pass and magnet would spin back up.

This is the exact idea came to me when I did some experiments yesterday, if the stator magnets are used on spring loaded base, it might assist the rotation, anyway, experimentation is what will tell.

[Aaron]

1/2 Halbach Array?

Matt,

From the original diagram in that book, to me it almost looks like it is
1/2 of a Halbach array, where it is a pseudo monopole. Strong on one side
and hardly anything on the other.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...mallinson.html

[Matthew Jones]

Matt,

From the original diagram in that book, to me it almost looks like it is
1/2 of a Halbach array, where it is a pseudo monopole. Strong on one side
and hardly anything on the other.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...mallinson.html

I don't see it. I could model whats there and show you.

The author says: It makes use of a unipole magnet so that the net force is exerted at all times on the armature in one direction only. The unipole magnets consist of wafers magnets magnetized through the thickness, and arranged and beveled in such a way that unipole is the result...... In all positions the force exerted on the stator is in only one direction.

That wouldn't be possible if the alignment is as shown. Unless he has CAST some new kinda magnet. But that leaves us all in the dark.

Like I said before you can find little things that appear to give you gain, but they don't necessarily scale up to a full closed loop.
The diagram is also far to simple to produce an asymmetric field as described.

But feel free to try. Lord knows I gotta pile of super glued and ducked taped magnet scrap from things I needed to try, just so I knew they would not work. And I could get them outa my head.

Cheers
Matt

[Dr.K.Yin]

Several misinterpretations have been placed on the diagram in the book. In actual fact all it is, is a stator with all its norths facing outward and all its souths facing inwards. The ether particles flow from the outside to the inside.
The rotor magnets are self-explanatory.

This works in the same way as the Howard Johnson gates as per YouTube - Discovering Magnetism Magnetic Gates Howard Johnson 2006 part 1 and YouTube - Discovering Magnetism Magnetic Gates Howard Johnson 2006 2, it is just a simpler implementation. I would also not underestimate Joesph Cater's understanding of things to quickly, he has a simple working theory of everything and he accounts for all phenomena in his book in painstaking detail. This is not some nebulous theory, but something anyone can understand and it makes amazing logical sense.

If you think his design will not work please enlighten us as to why, im interested. Also, I will have a physical explanation as to why this idea will work, typed up soon.

[Dr.K.Yin]

More Verification

Here's even more verification of the concepts. Its known as the quadratic gate and it is an unevloved form of the diagram in cater's book.

YouTube - howard johnson linear magnetic track accelerator video
He even says "North attracting north!". Similarly to the setup which I demonstrated on video in the first post on this thread

PowerPedia:Quadratic Magnet Gate - PESWiki