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  • i just want to add a few things i have found to the discussion and it may help and then again it may not.
    in older times of the 1880's aether was the internal working of fields within an atom and the term ether was for the external forces acting on the atomic structure. Tesla often uses these terms and it is good to know how to use them for discussions about his thoughts.

    there are a few thoughts i have come to except and they were hard learned as to physics there are allot of laws that are just theories and some things like torque that are rotational forces and as a law they have a center axis or could even have more but as a law if it spins it has a center point about which the rotation occurs. this is a law and will always exist.

    here is just an oddball thought it came to me several years ago and has been serving me well since i found it physics has identified and established the atom as having a virtual proton and electron and a neutron core from this neutron the positive and negatives seem to be separated and the positive seems to have a greater attraction to the neutron so goes to the center and the negative pulled or surrounding the core and suspended by each others fields which they are repulsed from making them easier to be moved from the atom than there inner positives. this allows the voltage gradient to fill the ether. the magnetic orders the flow to some symmetry as best i can figure.

    i have seen separating bowls in china and have seen this demonstrated by a man i work with and at the right frequency flour sugar and salt can all be separated from each other on a vibrating table with sugar moving rapidly to the center and the salt to the outside and the flour spreading over the rest of the plate. so wave action can account for many actions and reactions as aetheric to etheric.

    as for the speed of light and radio waves they have both been slowed drastically by dense magnetic fields and in weak magnetic fields are much faster than what we use as the speed of light so this fact can be added to the list of field actions as well. it was documented by both NASA and MIT physics department about ten years ago.

    i appreciate this thread very much and am enjoying what is proposed very much but i just wanted to pass on a few things i had to learn the hard way as for batteries you gave me an idea and i need to test it out and will get back to you with what i find out.

    all the rest i pretty much agree with the discussion and goes with many things i have seen and done but you might want to add john Keely to your list of wave theory activists. I am sorry i do not relate well writing so please bear with me i am a practical guy and need examples to follow along.
    Martin

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    • sorry i forgot another point from stanford university is the wieght of a standard brick 1.5" x 3"x 8" weigh the same no matter which side it is sitting on? the answer was the largest area side made it weigh the most just a half a gram but still a difference and this goes for what is being said about charge flow pulling or pushing.

      sorry i forgot this above.
      Martin

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      • Originally posted by nueview View Post
        sorry i forgot another point from stanford university is the wieght of a standard brick 1.5" x 3"x 8" weigh the same no matter which side it is sitting on? the answer was the largest area side made it weigh the most just a half a gram but still a difference and this goes for what is being said about charge flow pulling or pushing.

        sorry i forgot this above.
        Martin
        a video is like a picture it is worth a thousand words:

        ‪Cymatics - Bringing Matter To Life With Sound (Part 1 of 3)‬‏ - YouTube

        Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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        • @ monsieur

          the following is a link to my you tube channel i have many favorites collected there and some of my own i thought that i would see some interest but it seems it is a bit above most folks to understand and to simple a demonstrations the electrostatic energy video shows how to raise the total power and still arive at a continous use through the neutral bar.
          i have built capacitive generators that function opposite of normal generators allowing the charge to be moved by the voltage gradient and have stalled 3/4 horse motors when the charge is not allowed to flow and is locked to the plates.
          the three plate capacitors are a initial view into this but it was not picked up by anyone that the charge is replicated many times for use and it can be multiplied as well it is hard to expand an idea by ones self so i tend to enjoy these type of discussion groups and wish some of the concepts were actually put more to use in new ways it has helped me realize many things most of which follow the ideas in this thread posting and i wish more people were here reading and thinking about this i have gotten allot of new thoughts about how to do things differently and need to do some testing.

          ‪geshbeddin's Channel‬‏ - YouTube

          Martin

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          • Originally posted by nueview View Post
            @ monsieur

            the following is a link to my you tube channel i have many favorites collected there and some of my own i thought that i would see some interest but it seems it is a bit above most folks to understand and to simple a demonstrations the electrostatic energy video shows how to raise the total power and still arive at a continous use through the neutral bar.
            i have built capacitive generators that function opposite of normal generators allowing the charge to be moved by the voltage gradient and have stalled 3/4 horse motors when the charge is not allowed to flow and is locked to the plates.
            the three plate capacitors are a initial view into this but it was not picked up by anyone that the charge is replicated many times for use and it can be multiplied as well it is hard to expand an idea by ones self so i tend to enjoy these type of discussion groups and wish some of the concepts were actually put more to use in new ways it has helped me realize many things most of which follow the ideas in this thread posting and i wish more people were here reading and thinking about this i have gotten allot of new thoughts about how to do things differently and need to do some testing.

            ‪geshbeddin's Channel‬‏ - YouTube

            Martin


            the four stages involved in any revolutionary development.

            1, It's nonsense, don't waste my time...
            2, Oh, it's interesting but not important...
            3, I always said it was a good idea...
            4, I thought of it first.

            Arthur C Clarke


            I will definitely check out you links, i do like the old magnetic core video, i think i will start with that one..if i may suggest, we could use someone with your knowledge over at http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...-romerouk.html , you know as they say: the more the merrier , besides some of the best way to test your ideas is to take on an old concept (muller replica for instance) and rework it with your own ideas...
            Last edited by MonsieurM; 07-25-2011, 07:49 PM.
            Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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            • Ok just a quick post for the day Jeff Cook has discovered bacteria that convert heavy metal tailings from mines into gold found this interesting.

              also i was watching a show last night about the chemists that worked on the periodic table of elements and they said that radiation is the emmission of protons alpha particles form the material and that when these emmisions were used to bombard nitrogen for a period of time that oxygen molecules were produced

              i would think this would make nuclear decay a fairly fast process or there are allot of alpha particles in the nucleas of the atom just a few questions on my part.
              For me it is the numbers that would not add up over the period of time perhaps this is due to the deffinition of what is an alpha particle.
              Martin

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              • I know I just posted this in another thread but then saw this one and it may fit even better here. It would seem to erase the traditional concept of gravity

                RAR Energia Ltda

                I have to believe that anyone putting that much money into a huge construction like that has down their homework and have built smaller working prototypes.

                Sorry for the duplicate post but I think it fits better in this thread. Does anyone recall seeing a somewhat similar gravity machine elsewhere (but smaller)? I think Armagdgn03 had mentioned one somewhere here and there was a picture of it - quite complex looking. I'd like to find that pic.
                There is no important work, there are only a series of moments to demonstrate your mastery and impeccability. Quote from Almine

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