Orbo

[sebosfato]

i have just watched a video from steorn YouTube - 6/6 Addendum to Steorn's Orbo Electromagnetic Interaction COP greater than 1

Question

are they stating that they can multiply the energy by 99x ???

tomorrow they will release the answer to all

[sebosfato]

they stated more than 327% can be obtained.

basically they apply the pulse on the coils when the magnet is at the closest position from of the coil. And turn of when it leaves. This would give a inductance gain of 99,99%.

What i was thinking is if they can have more electricity than inputed why a demonstration using a battery. Seems quite stupid no? They could use a capacitor ?? Maybe they didn't figured out a way to recharge the battery=??? seems very strange...

[sebosfato]

In this 327% i guess they consider the losses on the coils too.

[Armagdn03]

Batteries have relatively flat charge and discharge curves, capacitors very much do not, this makes a huge difference in their operation, and they are not interchangeable in careful energy management systems

[sebosfato]

I was thinking if this isn't the same effect Stanley meyer claimed in his vic because they talk about collapsing magnetic field too.

[Michelinho]

Questions?

Hi all,

I have a few questions and comments:

1- From all the old electrical books, a toroid should be wound only on 330 degrees and not all around. Why? I have a few toroids coming from an old medical laser power supply and the toroid were wound only on 330 degrees...

2- When making a transformer, the old ones were placing a small spacer of paper or mica (4mm I think) between the adjoining parts of the armature increase its "efficiency? A toroid with a small slit on it with a thin paper spacer in would work better?

3- What if the toroid has slit and the winding is in 2 sections covering each half of the 330 degrees and placed with the 30 degrees with no wire facing the incoming magnet duets? Would it change something in the equation? (The slit could be on the exit side of the magnet duets)

4- what if the toroid is slit in two and each has its winding as #3?

5- The coils are all in series but are they connected the same or some are inverted?

Thanks to all that can shed light on these.

Take care,

Michel

[gyula]

Hi Michel,

1) If I recall correctly a toroid is wound that way you describe when the coil self capacitance is important to remain low (physical distance is left deliberately between the wire endings) I do not think this is so much important in Orbo though, cannot think of any reason a few picoFarads more across the coil would make much difference in the operation.

2) If I get you correctly, you mean normal air gap, right? If so, it was used for preventing the transformer from going into saturation. Air gaps usage was a "must" for choke coils in power supplies where the rectified AC current had to be filtered and the DC component would have saturated the choke coil's core, making the the several Henry self inductance fall dawn, hence rendering the 'choking' i.e. filtering effect useless.

3) The same would happen to a toroidal core, it would need higher current or stronger magnetic field from the magnets to bring it into or near to saturation, if it had an air gap.

4) Again the question of saturation, if the Orbo principle is based on saturation

5) Sorry, no info on that.

rgds, Gyula

Hi all,

I have a few questions and comments:

1- From all the old electrical books, a toroid should be wound only on 330 degrees and not all around. Why? I have a few toroids coming from an old medical laser power supply and the toroid were wound only on 330 degrees...

2- When making a transformer, the old ones were placing a small spacer of paper or mica (4mm I think) between the adjoining parts of the armature increase its "efficiency? A toroid with a small slit on it with a thin paper spacer in would work better?

3- What if the toroid has slit and the winding is in 2 sections covering each half of the 330 degrees and placed with the 30 degrees with no wire facing the incoming magnet duets? Would it change something in the equation? (The slit could be on the exit side of the magnet duets)

4- what if the toroid is slit in two and each has its winding as #3?

5- The coils are all in series but are they connected the same or some are inverted?

Thanks to all that can shed light on these.

Take care,

Michel

[Michelinho]

Thanks Gyula.

Much appreciated.

Take care,

Michel

[sucahyo]

Hi all,

I have a few questions and comments:

Try Bob Boyce method of winding toroid on like shown on D9.pdf.

[samedsoft]

Dear Sucahyo,

Did you tried this configuration?

Can you post pictures and results?

Also could you please send what was the frequencies you have applied and DC bias voltage?

Thanks

[sucahyo]

No, I just post picture from Bob Boyce TPU pdf file.

As for efficiency, I think TPU is the main component of 6X output of Bob Boyce Hex Controller. The same one that boost Bob Boyce cell. The same one that make self charging battery with hex controller.

Frequency is mentioned to depend on load, so it is a variable factor.

[samedsoft]

Dear Sucahyo,

Could you please post the PDF file?

We need to find a real replication with full specs and operational data.

We have made our pic based frequency synthesizer up 1 MHZ and we can play with the phase also.

We will now build the tpu part of the system.


I think otto and others made it already but they dont share ha?

[sucahyo]

I don't collect much material, and most of it from:
Successful TPU-ECD replication !

I see otto is answering question there.

[sucahyo]

also see document bellow for circuit and tuning:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/D9.pdf

[samedsoft]

Dear Suhayo,


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