Orbo

[sucahyo]

Have a look at my GOBO test 3 video which is truly my first Toroid test. Let me know what you think.

What will you test on your toroid, the effect of circular flux movement or flux collapsing each other?

[gotoluc]

What will you test on your toroid, the effect of circular flux movement or flux collapsing each other?

Hi sucahyo,

I'm not sure what will be next.

I've been away for a few days and now find that J.L. Naudin is claiming today that he has found the below information

Sounds like quite a coincidence to me

Luc

The Steorn Orbo motor replication by JL Naudin

"The patent is very interesting because it say that in a common toroidal coil each layer are equal of one coil turn along the axis of the toroid. So, a one layer of toroidal coil is equal to a flat coil of one turn and thus it can catch or produce emf outside. So, to counter this, the only thing to do is to wound a one tun coil along the main axis of the toroid so as to create a magnetic field which nullify the virtual one turn coil created by the one layer toroidal coil... This is simple be this is a very important thing to do for canceling the weak CEMF induced in the toroid... "

[sebosfato]

I'm following your progress gotoluc

great work

don't give up

[gotoluc]

Thanks sebosfato for your interest and encouragement

The wheels keep turning

Luc

[sebosfato]

I think you should try using two magnets per coil and with the coil turned 90°

What do you think about ?

[gotoluc]

Hi sebosfato,

yes! I'm testing all kinds of configerations at this time.

Below is my last video (not posted here yet) and some test data.

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Hi all,

here is a new video that better demonstrate the differences between a single coil toroid over a dual split coil toroid since I did not show the difference between the two in the last video.

I did build a new rotor to accommodate 2 magnets but before adding the second set of magnets I decided to do this video (single magnets) so we have a measuring difference using the same rotor since the rotor characteristics have now changed.

I didn't have enough time at the end of the video to do an Inductance test of the coil once in the preferable configuration, so here are the numbers:

880mH @ TDC (coil on position)
1,050mH @ (coil off position)
6.75 Ohm DC Resistance

Also single coil resistance is 3.35 Ohms

I will be away for the next 2 days, so the dual magnet test will have to wait till maybe Sunday.

I don't understand this effect, so if anyone has an idea of what's going on please share.

Link to video: YouTube - GOBO Magnet Motor test 4

Luc

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Hi all,

a last quick update!

I added the top row of South pole magnets to the rotor and basically the current is half of what it was. I also had to back out the core about 2mm as it was getting noisy.

The current is now around 8.6ma @ 1.58vdc with the coils connected in the preferred dual mode. RPM is 195 from 210 with single magnets and flyback at 1K load is 1.19vdc from 1.43vdc with single magnets.

Inductance @TDC is 793mH and 1,053mH at off position.

That's all for a few days.

Luc

[gotoluc]

Luc

Hi everyone,

here is a new video an maybe my last video of GOBO as I've tested many things and this is the best as I can get it to at this time.

Link to video: YouTube - GOBO Magnet Motor test 5

Luc

[gotoluc]

This video is now deleted as it was incorrect.

See below explanation

Luc

[torpex]

Hi everyone.

Hi all.

another video for today.

This experiment is to simulate the effect a coil would have if an Inductance gain occurs during a coil energizing period.

Although I say in the video that it seems to be valid, I fail to see the positive use this of this effect since energizing a lower Inductance coil uses more power than energizing a higher inductance coil.

If anyone can help explain the advantage I'm all ears

Link to video: YouTube - Coil Inductance Gain during on time test 1

Luc

I do not quite understand the idea, but I suspect that the process would take an alleged surge of energy with the effect, the core is energized and to vary its inductance energy stored varies.

Take this opportunity to congratulate you on your great work and videos on youtube.

Greetings

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone.



I do not quite understand the idea, but I suspect that the process would take an alleged surge of energy with the effect, the core is energized and to vary its inductance energy stored varies.

Take this opportunity to congratulate you on your great work and videos on youtube.

Greetings

Thanks torpex for your positive comment.

I did some new tests today and I now can confirmed that there is no energy gain if inductance is increased during a coil energizing period (on time).

I had not realized that when the core dropped back down when switched off it induces a current in the coil because of the magnet I add to the core. That is where the gain was coming from.

I will delete the video as it maybe misleading and not mention confusing

Luc

[torpex]

Hi Gotoluc

I did some new tests today and I now can confirmed that there is no energy gain if inductance is increased during a coil energizing period (on time).

Like what you measured?

I think the approach may be the one indicated in his post by Broli on overunity.com, you may have to look no motor consumption, rather to harness the potential effect of the change in inductance to capture that extra energy (if that is real). Example: 2 coils to operate the motor and other 2 coils as generators to capture the potential energy. The primary set loses energy, but the secondary gains more energy consumed above. Maybe ...

Have you seen the link:
http://ziosproject.com/NJ/magPres/index.htm

Actually this kind of effect would explain the variety of magnetic motors and their different results.

Greetings

[gotoluc]

Hi Gotoluc

Like what you measured?

I think the approach may be the one indicated in his post by Broli on overunity.com, you may have to look no motor consumption, rather to harness the potential effect of the change in inductance to capture that extra energy (if that is real). Example: 2 coils to operate the motor and other 2 coils as generators to capture the potential energy. The primary set loses energy, but the secondary gains more energy consumed above. Maybe ...

Have you seen the link:
http://ziosproject.com/NJ/magPres/index.htm

Actually this kind of effect would explain the variety of magnetic motors and their different results.

Greetings

Hi torpex,

thanks for the link. I don't quite understand the 3rd box explanation!... it is written: "As the magnet moves away it is being attracted by the now saturated core"

How can it move away from the core and be attracted in the same time

Can you explain how a core can be saturated by a permanent magnet fields and to then energize its coil will release the magnet from the core?... maybe if you energize the coil to create opposite fields then it may loose its attraction but that field needed to oppose the already established PM field and I think that would take more energy than you would get out!

please explain what I'm missing or not considering here.

BTW, what is this site?

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[torpex]

Hi Gotoluc

Inductance Variation: I saw your video, according to my tests the inductance is reduced when approaching the magnet to the toroidal core. Since I found this effect some time ago playing with an oscillator circuit JT, but I could not interpret it correctly.

Explanation 3rd box.- I understand that intends to use the effect to saturate the core with energy from the battery, just as lower inductance, but not to drive the motor itself, only to recover that energy when the magnet is withdrawn, taking advantage of the increased inductance and using W = I ² L / 2.
Try to think of the energy gain to remove it, not to enhance the motor current drain. This site I've only seen in that post.

Another interesting link:
YouTube - Understanding the Orbo principle: 3 KEY EXPERIMENTS

Greetings