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**Aaron** · 02-02-2010, 12:11 AM

Dollard reference?

Daniel,

Are you talking about Dollard's reference to the direction of movement
so there is less resistance against it?

I think if you just spell out your perspective on it and post a diagram
that it will be easier to get some feedback on it.

**Guest** · 02-02-2010, 01:15 AM

Incredulous

Hi there Aaron.

Nice of you to reply here.

Yes, that is exactly the relative motion of the generating coils which Telsla used in his oscillator to create the magnetricity he used for all his experiments.

He called it oscillating energy. It was sent to a condensor, from where it was pulsed to deliver energy of high voltage and high potential.

He utilised a constant di - pole potential, inducted into the load circuit.

A picture? Why, where is the confusion?

You see, this is where I get lost. What, exactly, don't you understand about this?

Are you familiar with the process that delivers energy into the conductor in the first place?

Do you understand the role of the magnetic domains?

I would need to know what you do know, and what you don't, in order to deliver a successful description.

It also helps to know what your background is, as if you are well educated, the blinkers are on pretty tight, and it is a long road to remove them.

Have you read what I have already posted?

What doesn't make sense?

They say a picture is worth a thousand words? Ok, well, how about you draw what you think I am on about, and I will know then, what you are thinking, and perhaps be able to help remove the veil of confusion.

As I have said before, this knowledge is allready out there, it has just been missed, because people are too willing to take the easy way out, and not have to think for themselves.

I will expalin this, but only if you can show me that you have tried to work it out yourself, as otherwise I get statements such as "Is this "knowledge" from expreience, or just another theory".

Well, it is, at the moment, just a theory.

But, I am actively trying, with limited skill and few resources, to prove it. Help would be nice.

But, as with all scientific endeavour, theory first, then the math, then the prototype.

Thus far, no - one I have explained this to, has replied with something to show that this cannot be done.

I am waiting to be proven wrong. But in order to explain this, I need to know where the confusion lies.

Let's talk. This is far too abstract a place for such discussion.

Daniel.

**amigo** · 02-02-2010, 01:41 AM

Daniel,

you have not been ignored, as people are intersted, but nobody is stopping you from posting whatever you like right here in this forum.

Putting a stipulation that people must use Skype and call you via it to obtain whatever information you alleged to have is puzzling, to say the least.

You are obviously willing to share the information for free, as you wrote above, so then why not just share it, instead of throwing a bate and seeing who catches on?

Just my 2c.

**citfta** · 02-02-2010, 02:00 AM

What are you talking about?

Hi Daniel,

Maybe the reason no one is responding to your posts is because you are being so vague no one can figure out what you are talking about. In your last post you rambled on about some secret knowledge you had found from Tesla about high voltage and high potential. Well I am 64 years old and have studied Tesla since I was a teenager and I can tell you that high voltage and high potential are the same thing.

Another problem with your posts is that a lot of the people on this forum are serious about actually building devices we are discussing. I have built window motors, Bedini SSGs, and am now working on a couple versions of the Tesla Switch. I have been active on this forum for over a year and a half and have gotten to know several of the active members (at least through their posts). Now you come along and try to tell these active members that you know something they don't but you haven't built anything to prove it. And then you tell us you can't explain it on the forum because you don't think we could understand it.

If you want to be taken seriously then show us a drawing or sketch of what you want to try and maybe someone will even build it for you if you don't have the skills or finances to do it yourself.

I hope you don't find my comments too harsh, but I am just trying to explain to you why no one is paying any attention to your posts.

Good luck in your quest, Carroll

**boguslaw** · 02-02-2010, 07:46 AM

Part of the secret is that Tesla high potential is not electrical nor magnetic induction.It's what Sweet called motional electric field.What others called eather wind.Or fluid.
When it's properly sent on large mass of metal it produce current.
This method is efficient because it produce current in other circuit not related to first one.Why ? Because the INITIATOR is not electrical !
Read Tesla article from 1900 year about a way of extracting power from envinronment indefinitely.

A DEPARTURE FROM KNOWN METHODS�POSSIBILITY OF A "SELF-ACT
MACHINE, INANIMATE, YET CAPABLE, LIKE A LIVING BEING, OF DE
FROM THE MEDIUM�THE IDEAL WAY OF OBTAINING MOTIVE POWER.

Read also what Harry E. Perrigo said about production of electricity :H. Perrigo: Aether Energy Electrical Generator.

**Raui** · 02-02-2010, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by citfta View Post

Hi Daniel,

Maybe the reason no one is responding to your posts is because you are being so vague no one can figure out what you are talking about. In your last post you rambled on about some secret knowledge you had found from Tesla about high voltage and high potential. Well I am 64 years old and have studied Tesla since I was a teenager and I can tell you that high voltage and high potential are the same thing.

Another problem with your posts is that a lot of the people on this forum are serious about actually building devices we are discussing. I have built window motors, Bedini SSGs, and am now working on a couple versions of the Tesla Switch. I have been active on this forum for over a year and a half and have gotten to know several of the active members (at least through their posts). Now you come along and try to tell these active members that you know something they don't but you haven't built anything to prove it. And then you tell us you can't explain it on the forum because you don't think we could understand it.

If you want to be taken seriously then show us a drawing or sketch of what you want to try and maybe someone will even build it for you if you don't have the skills or finances to do it yourself.

I hope you don't find my comments too harsh, but I am just trying to explain to you why no one is paying any attention to your posts.

Good luck in your quest, Carroll

With all due respect Carroll it doesn't matter if you've been researching Tesla for 50+ years or only 1 day new perspectives on this material is what is needed as none of us here have the ability to describe the physics behind these technologies. If anyone did they would be able to tell everyone else on this forum the physics behind this technology, can you tell me the physics to this technology?

You need a video to explain this concept and Daniel doesn't want to post one of youtube. There are no catches to this information. I got on skype to him spoke to him and feel somewhat enlightened because of it. He didn't ask for investment, he didn't ask for a donation. He just explain it, made sure I got it and said now tell your friends, family and anyone who will listen.

I'm not trying to sound hostilic or rude Carroll and I apologize if I'm coming across this way. I just hate to see a theory like this get thrown out the window and into the trash.

-Raui

**elias** · 02-02-2010, 11:00 AM

Very Interested

Hi Daniel,

These are the first posts of yours that have caught my attention, I'll go study your other posts.

I don't understand what you mean by High Voltage and High Potential, As I see them the same, maybe you meant high Frequency and High Potential, which I find interesting. And I have seen interesting and unexplainable effects.

I have been on this forum for nearly 3 years and have studied most of the posts the knowledgeable people here have contributed. Most of the Teslian Experiments people here have done and shown are yes High voltage and Impulse type Technologies, which is mostly influenced by Bedini and Some other great people which I have always appreciated.

But ...
I have not seen many experimentations with High Frequency High Voltage which I find remarkably mysterious, showing effects I have not seen before.

We have seen many things great effects, such as the Water Spark Plug, The Bedini Battery Charger, but I think that the energy of Aether can be unlocked much more with higher frequencies, and that is what Tesla was up to, e. g. what Dr Stiffler is doing is pretty close to what Tesla was doing.
I suggest following the original Path Tesla followed which is experimenting with high voltage and frequency circuits, which even our devices may not be able to measure.

Tesla had not access to semi-conductors back then and this might have been an advantage to him, as it made him design mechanical switching apparatuses for his experiments with high frequency, and may have lead him to better efficiency.

Now, I have observed some strange effects which stem from pulsing coil with high frequency impulses, such as 100KHz and more, which depend on the coil being pulsed mostly. The potential bites, instead of shocking, and Voltage and Current seem meaning-less in these high range of frequencies. Power can be transmitted by one wire only, and the energy can only light up loads that have a certain amount of impedance, to current flow, and the current flow doesn't make sense, at all. Neither the Oscilloscope Nor the Amp-Meter can show the energy flow correctly.

I suppose, building different types of coils and performing experimentation, is what can unveil and clarify this phenomena.

Elias

**Raui** · 02-02-2010, 11:21 AM

Elias,
Tesla didn't use mechanical switching to achieve his high frequency currents, it was in fact solid state. However it was without semi-conductor technology! He could pull any desired frequency by using a condenser and a spark gap. Reason I underline the condenser bit is that there is a difference between a condenser and a capacitor. Within a capacitor the dielectric gets charged in the same plane as the energy flow while a condenser on the other hand has the dielectric medium charged 90 degrees to this.

Back to the high frequency setup, charge a condenser to a given potential. The condenser must be parallel to the power source. Now put a spark gap in series with the power supply located after the condenser.

The condenser holds a voltage and the spark gap has a selected voltage in which the dielectric breaks-down and becomes and plasma which is adjusted by distance between the anode and cathode. There is a set amount of time between the cap discharging through the spark gap and charging back up to the break-down voltage of the spark gap aka. the period. Now all we have to do is adjust the gap between the anode and the cathode of the spark gap and we have a variable frequency generator, Tesla style! Tesla wanted the quickest possible frequency and there is a limit to this setup. The limit can be increased with use of magnetic quenching!

This is spoken about by Tesla a lot and just shows the ingenuity he had. Hope I helped clear it up for you

-Raui

**elias** · 02-02-2010, 12:39 PM

Originally posted by Raui View Post

Elias,
Tesla didn't use mechanical switching to achieve his high frequency currents, it was in fact solid state. However it was without semi-conductor technology! He could pull any desired frequency by using a condenser and a spark gap. Reason I underline the condenser bit is that there is a difference between a condenser and a capacitor. Within a capacitor the dielectric gets charged in the same plane as the energy flow while a condenser on the other hand has the dielectric medium charged 90 degrees to this.

Back to the high frequency setup, charge a condenser to a given potential. The condenser must be parallel to the power source. Now put a spark gap in series with the power supply located after the condenser.

The condenser holds a voltage and the spark gap has a selected voltage in which the dielectric breaks-down and becomes and plasma which is adjusted by distance between the anode and cathode. There is a set amount of time between the cap discharging through the spark gap and charging back up to the break-down voltage of the spark gap aka. the period. Now all we have to do is adjust the gap between the anode and the cathode of the spark gap and we have a variable frequency generator, Tesla style! Tesla wanted the quickest possible frequency and there is a limit to this setup. The limit can be increased with use of magnetic quenching!

This is spoken about by Tesla a lot and just shows the ingenuity he had. Hope I helped clear it up for you

-Raui

Thanks! My point was that he didn't use the transistors we use today and this method might have had much better efficiency.

**Michael John Nunnerley** · 02-02-2010, 03:46 PM

Seen it and don't know what to make of it!

Hi all

I do not know if this is the right thread for this, but I will continue with what I want to say.

SEEN IT AND DON'T KNOW WANT TO MAKE OF IT, well reading through such a large Forum with such talents as we have here, is a hugh task. How many people have come accross things that they can not explain? MANY.

The one that crops up all the time in different applications of experiment is SELF OSCILLATION THROUGH PARAMETRICS, be it electrical, electronic or mechanical. I am talking of the child on a swing and the parent is just applying a mimiscual amout of push to maintain the oscillation such as the little finger of your hand on maybe a fifty kilo mass at its point of zero mass in the oscillation.

This I have applied in electronics and PMM's others have applied it in motors, IT IS ALL THE SAME AT THE END OF THE DAY and the name chosen is parametrics. In chemistry it applies as well and that push force is the catalyst at the moment when a reaction is at its most debile, it is all around us. In a mechanical system of a fulcrum with a 1000gram weight at one end, can be lifted by a 100gram weight at the other, to do this we have moved the fulcrum point of balance in favour of the 100g weight, AT THE POINT IT IS MOST DEBILE.

Free energy starts at this point, NOT BEFORE, you have to get to this point of, lets call it ZERO point, and then build on this. Where are we going to get this over energy from? well lets go back to the swing, at its highest point the child is producing zero energy, when the child starts to swing down (or back) the mass of the child is under the influence of gravity (free energy, yes if the push of the finger was so small it could be recovered by the falling mass). Now if that little push was not done then the downward energy is absorbed by the energy required to counter the gravity on the upward wave of the oscillation, and it does not stop there, the air resistance also has to be overcome.

Now what if we push with another finger on the zero point of the upward motion, two phases in the oscillation, the force needed would be 50% of the first push and the first push could be reduced by 50%, 50% on one side and 50% on the other. What have we achieved, well remember the energy going down was the gravity on mass, well it applies on the other side of the oscillation as well, but we have reduced it by 50%.

It is the pinging on both sides of the oscillation and using the mass to gravity twice. Now we have to get the swing to go higher each time or each oscillation, which would require a little harder push or pinging on each side. Now where do we get the extra energy for this? well one way is it increase the mass on the downward phase and loose it on the upward phase. Yes you have, after reaching ZERO energy, to look for that extra energy.

This example is easier in electronics but it is just to get the brain running in the right direction

Mike

**boguslaw** · 02-02-2010, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Michael John Nunnerley View Post

Hi all

I do not know if this is the right thread for this, but I will continue with what I want to say.

SEEN IT AND DON'T KNOW WANT TO MAKE OF IT, well reading through such a large Forum with such talents as we have here, is a hugh task. How many people have come accross things that they can not explain? MANY.

The one that crops up all the time in different applications of experiment is SELF OSCILLATION THROUGH PARAMETRICS, be it electrical, electronic or mechanical. I am talking of the child on a swing and the parent is just applying a mimiscual amout of push to maintain the oscillation such as the little finger of your hand on maybe a fifty kilo mass at its point of zero mass in the oscillation.

This I have applied in electronics and PMM's others have applied it in motors, IT IS ALL THE SAME AT THE END OF THE DAY and the name chosen is parametrics. In chemistry it applies as well and that push force is the catalyst at the moment when a reaction is at its most debile, it is all around us. In a mechanical system of a fulcrum with a 1000gram weight at one end, can be lifted by a 100gram weight at the other, to do this we have moved the fulcrum point of balance in favour of the 100g weight, AT THE POINT IT IS MOST DEBILE.

Free energy starts at this point, NOT BEFORE, you have to get to this point of, lets call it ZERO point, and then build on this. Where are we going to get this over energy from? well lets go back to the swing, at its highest point the child is producing zero energy, when the child starts to swing down (or back) the mass of the child is under the influence of gravity (free energy, yes if the push of the finger was so small it could be recovered by the falling mass). Now if that little push was not done then the downward energy is absorbed by the energy required to counter the gravity on the upward wave of the oscillation, and it does not stop there, the air resistance also has to be overcome.

Now what if we push with another finger on the zero point of the upward motion, two phases in the oscillation, the force needed would be 50% of the first push and the first push could be reduced by 50%, 50% on one side and 50% on the other. What have we achieved, well remember the energy going down was the gravity on mass, well it applies on the other side of the oscillation as well, but we have reduced it by 50%.

It is the pinging on both sides of the oscillation and using the mass to gravity twice. Now we have to get the swing to go higher each time or each oscillation, which would require a little harder push or pinging on each side. Now where do we get the extra energy for this? well one way is it increase the mass on the downward phase and loose it on the upward phase. Yes you have, after reaching ZERO energy, to look for that extra energy.

This example is easier in electronics but it is just to get the brain running in the right direction

Mike

Questions:
What is the initial stage of swing in case of electric circuit ? Do we know it ?
How can you describe changing of inertia in electric circuit which produce "increasing of mass" (which is not strictly correct statement imho) ?
For child on the swing it is done by changing the point of angular mass by contraction of legs.
Where is your thread ? I cannot find it.
Sorry about my English.

**Michael John Nunnerley** · 02-02-2010, 06:46 PM

swing as in oscillation

Originally posted by boguslaw View Post

Questions:
What is the initial stage of swing in case of electric circuit ? Do we know it ?
How can you describe changing of inertia in electric circuit which produce "increasing of mass" (which is not strictly correct statement imho) ?
For child on the swing it is done by changing the point of angular mass by contraction of legs.
Where is your thread ? I cannot find it.
Sorry about my English.

Swing is a mechanical version of an AC wave, you have the up and the down, as for the legs, I did not mention leg movement, only the mass, weight, of the child, it could be a sack of potatoes which dosen't have legs! and as far as an electrical circuit it is the voltage that increases and without a step up transformer is were parametrics come in,

Mike

**Michael John Nunnerley** · 02-02-2010, 06:54 PM

My thread for parametric oscillation

Space Time Energy Absorbtion Pump

Mike

**dave_cahoon** · 02-04-2010, 04:23 AM

The end

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...335-smack.html

And to think sometimes I wish I were young again???

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