Balancing electronic friction in the engine

[HairBear]

Wow!

Truly amazing! Thank you ashtweth!

[Jbignes5]

Nothing there.

You need to look at the heating device and the flow of heat around it. The detector is only showing the flow of heat above the plate when it goes hotter. This is facilitated by keeping the detector in a fixed location and the board allows you to lower the heating stream into detection range. The more the weight the higher the temp records.
Nothing magical and is just a shill game to make you believe there is something magical going on. If one took meter readings in your hand you would see the temp pattern without having to use the board to manipulate how high the meter reads.
This has nothing to do with magical or intention other then to decieve thru non empiracal tests. If you had shown before that the temperature was indeen the same the higher you went or visa versa then I would agree but it was never done. It's a sham these guys use to sell steel at outrageous prices.

[broli]

You need to look at the heating device and the flow of heat around it. The detector is only showing the flow of heat above the plate when it goes hotter. This is facilitated by keeping the detector in a fixed location and the board allows you to lower the heating stream into detection range. The more the weight the higher the temp records.
Nothing magical and is just a shill game to make you believe there is something magical going on. If one took meter readings in your hand you would see the temp pattern without having to use the board to manipulate how high the meter reads.
This has nothing to do with magical or intention other then to decieve thru non empiracal tests. If you had shown before that the temperature was indeen the same the higher you went or visa versa then I would agree but it was never done. It's a sham these guys use to sell steel at outrageous prices.

What if the effect disappears by repeating the same experiment with a "dead" plate? One single video is not enough to form any final conclusion only time will reveal that.

[Jbignes5]

This is exactly what I suggest..

I bet one could get the same effect from not using the plate al all and that wasn't done. Why? Because it would show exactly what I have descibed... All one would need to do is bend the board with your own weight and the "Effect" would be the same without the plate.
This is proven because the board was never touched before the experiment started. The only thing that touched the board was the plate then weight was applied. This is done to fool you into thinking it has something to do with amplification and it has nothing to do with it. The only thing they are doing is moving the heat source to show a difference between the real source and the plate above the heat source. One will be hotter and the other will be cooler. Plain and simple this is a sham. If it wasn't then they would have done the test without the plate to show there was no difference which it wasn't done.

[broli]

I bet one could get the same effect from not using the plate al all and that wasn't done. Why? Because it would show exactly what I have descibed... All one would need to do is bend the board with your own weight and the "Effect" would be the same without the plate.
This is proven because the board was never touched before the experiment started. The only thing that touched the board was the plate then weight was applied. This is done to fool you into thinking it has something to do with amplification and it has nothing to do with it. The only thing they are doing is moving the heat source to show a difference between the real source and the plate above the heat source. One will be hotter and the other will be cooler. Plain and simple this is a sham. If it wasn't then they would have done the test without the plate to show there was no difference which it wasn't done.

I'd be more comfortable thinking you're the sham then. There's no way after one single video, without knowing anything about the inventor, his motives, his goals, his experience that you can label him a sham. That makes anyone with an open mind think you have a hidden agenda PERIOD. So you either revealed yourself or you are on the wrong forum wise professor.

Anyone is given a chance no matter how crazy it might seem especially if it has an open source spirit, who are you to label them a sham.

[Jbignes5]

Should I disect the video to prove this is a scam...

All one has to see is the meter pointed above the heat source then watch as they push on the board. It changes the source to be higher in the view of the detector.
If you can't see that then you need some help. You deserve to be scammed if you don't open your eyes and see that it is a deception of angles. You want to believe it well thats your choice but it is clear of what is going on there. View it as you like but the simple fact of the matter is they are changing the angle of the detector by bending the board. This is very clear by just one viewing of the video.

[citfta]

Sham or scam?

I don't know if it is a sham or a scam or something for real. I do know it certainly looks suspicious when every time the readout changes I see the board flexing. If they were really trying to prove something they sure need a better demo than that.

Carroll

[Jbignes5]

Here is alittle information on the detector.

DIGITECH Non-contact Digital Thermometer with Laser Sighting...

Why exactly do you think it needs laser sighting? It is for a simple fact that the detection beam is so focused that you need to know where it is reading from Hence the laser for accuracy...

Here is the proof... At :27 when the other guy puts his knuckles on the board the temp suddenly rises from 244 to 276.. Wow his hand must be magical as well.... Open your eyes and you will see the truth...

I believe that they are measuring the difference of the metal plate above the burner from the edges being cooler to the central region that is hotter. You can see from the plate discolorization as to the gradiant of the heat on the plate. The edges have less heat compared to the central region. This pattern of discolorization would be the same on another piece of metal that doesn't have the stamp on it. Maybe my other description was in error because I didn't look for the laser dot. But if you follow that laser dot it would tell you whats going on. It's kinda like watching an illusionist do a trick. It's a trick of deception or misdirection. Make a loud noise like you are calling forth a magical effect then change where you are measuring to get a temp difference. The big steel plate on the board is just a way to keep the presure on it. The little piece he brings out before barking the command has nothing to do with whats going on. Follow the laser and you will understand what is going on.

[HairBear]

I'm gonna have to go with Jbignes5. But, hey! If anyone can show different, I'm all eyes.

[ashtweth]

All one has to see is the meter pointed above the heat source then watch as they push on the board. It changes the source to be higher in the view of the detector.
If you can't see that then you need some help. You deserve to be scammed if you don't open your eyes and see that it is a deception of angles. You want to believe it well thats your choice but it is clear of what is going on there. View it as you like but the simple fact of the matter is they are changing the angle of the detector by bending the board. This is very clear by just one viewing of the video.

Jbignes i know the guy personally and have seen his dyno results and car, we are doing more next week , the device works and is real, ill put my reputation on it. Plus i have spoken to probably 5+ people who use them and vouch for it.

Ashtweth

[1NRG24Seven]

Suchahyo....the power of Faith is with the one delivering the benifit and or harm, as you say it matters not if the recipient believes in it or not.

Hope this clearifies my meaning....24

[Jbignes5]

I didn't say....

I didn't say that it didn't work for the cars. I can see why it would. Inserting laminated steel inot the car would grab and focus the energy around it.
All I said is that the demonstration that you showed is in error. Believe that or not all one has to do is read what i said and look at what is happening. That demo is in error and is kinda misleading as to what is going on.
By the way never never put your rep on the line for something that you don't or haven't seen for your own eyes. If it turns out to be nothing then you have ruined that rep for nothing more then the word of a few reputable people that have been tricked. I am not saying that it is a trick in the car but the video is very very clear that it is not doing what he claims with the heating of the plate above the burner. Weather you believe the claims is up to you but judging from the demonstration you showed it is flawed.

[digitz]

While i beleive such sort of device exist, this video doesn't help to prove anything, everytime the temp change the board is moving, just look at the lines of the cloth under it on the right, find a spot where the black line goes in contact of the board, now wait for the moment when plate is put on or removed and watch that spot.

[sucahyo]

Kinda like the effect of a strong magnet on fuel line.
STUDI EKSPERIMEN PENGARUH MULTIPLE MAGNET TERHADAP TEMPERATUR API BUNSEN BURNER - ITS Library Digital Content Publisher

If it is not a big magnet with huge field (obviously not neo) to reach even the combustion chamber, maybe it is something that can produce some similar magnet-like power.

[ashtweth]

I didn't say that it didn't work for the cars. I can see why it would. Inserting laminated steel inot the car would grab and focus the energy around it.
All I said is that the demonstration that you showed is in error. Believe that or not all one has to do is read what i said and look at what is happening. That demo is in error and is kinda misleading as to what is going on.
By the way never never put your rep on the line for something that you don't or haven't seen for your own eyes. If it turns out to be nothing then you have ruined that rep for nothing more then the word of a few reputable people that have been tricked. I am not saying that it is a trick in the car but the video is very very clear that it is not doing what he claims with the heating of the plate above the burner. Weather you believe the claims is up to you but judging from the demonstration you showed it is flawed.

Mkay sorry dood, ill get some tests done for you with your criteria count on it please post how yo want me to set it up my friend

Ash