Announcement.

[tutanka]

Are any of Stan Meyers patents still in effect?, or are they all expired?...if not all expired you will not be able to manufacture devices except for yourself, seems all your claiming here is that you have cracked the patents and now know how to make it work, which I am not saying is bad, its a great accomplishment if you have done so. I just hope you and your "group" as you call em don't think that your going to get filthy rich ny simply selling the information> As the first person you sell it to can not be stopped from releasing it to others for free, and trying to hold on to it to protect your position is the trap Stan found himself in that eventually led to his demise. Your dealing with organized opposition that have unlimited funds to stop you at all costs, You and anyone involved in your "group" . The reason for this forum I thought was to use an open source principle of people working in cooperation to freely give this "group" any information for the purpose of stopping the possiblity that tecnologies like this stand the greatest possibilty of mass exposure to secure our freedom from the controlling few in this world wanting to continue keeping us in slavery to their energy systems. Anything I discover or create I have chosen to freely give even at great personal expence of time and money doing so. As I believe this is the only way we can insure that those who have successfuly supressed us can no longer do so. Once the cat is out of the bag they are sunk. You can hold on to it thinking your going to gain something in the form of money, only to lose your freedoms and have that money taken away later by these globalist henchmen. So then what have you gained? The only way I can see to beat their game is freely let the cat out the bag...let em stop 1000's that now are empowered to make a difference...even if thousands had the information there is enough money they all can make as it would take 20 years to convert the billions of fuel powered engines to the technology. It would not phase you and your groups abilty to do likewise, then its a win win situation for everyone, and will further increase our collectives odds of killing the beast that supresses us all. You don't have to worry about big corperations taking the ball and running with it as they will not be allowed to touch it with a ten foot pole being funded by the same international banksters who own and control it all.

Just my buck three eighty worth,

Good day!!!!....24

Hello,
In our group everyone have has a task. Rosco is enabled to start PR, Robin is mechanical mind and I'm the illuminated.. We don't have CRACKED or COPY anything and TODAY I CAN WRITE THAT.. more Meyer informations contained inside patents are mistaken maybe for obatin an protection wall for copiers. Some peoples including h2opower believes in these patents like a Bible because for peoples is more simple copy instead to think and create with own head and this has thought also who to it has modified with wisdom these patents. If you believe in my words ok.. if not for me it's ok again. Thanks for read me...

[Cherryman]

Some addition to my previous post.

As stated, i respect you're results.

I also understand that you want to sell it, fair enough.

I do, however, not understand why it has to be on a leach?

Why not be satisfied with just selling a working (stand alone) product? There are 6 billion costumers.. Isn't that enough?

Why the satelite or otherwise connection? Don't you guys see the problems it wil give?

Tecnical:

- More costs (more parts, and more parts means more possibilities to fail (in time) )
- Failing connection > No power
- hacking problems (Terrorists, governments, induviduals....etc)
- Expensive extra costs for such a connection
- Froud (Duplicating cards, signals, identeties)

- Moral:

- We have it, you can buy it, but you only can use it with our consent
- Due to satelite connection reverse tracking is possible (Where are the units...and users!)
- Possibility for governments to tax it (Or interference otherwise)
- In times of trouble (War, disaster.. etc) Then such a devise would be a lifesaver for people.. what if you're satelite groundstation is destroyed? A space collison? A meteor.. A rocket.. etc.
- Making people (again) dependeple

So my question is? Why ?


Regards,

A concerned world citizen.

[Farside]

Hi,
I just found this announcement.
Congratulations guys. We knew you were close. It's great to see you succeeded!

[Jbignes5]

Hmmm...

No thanks. The problem I see with anything that isn't just released to the world is that you shift the power to your control. This is outrageous no matter if the technology is sound or not. You either let the people know what makes these conditions happen and what order or you sit on it making yourselves no better then the guys running our world now. Humanity needs this technology to sustain our world in a balanced state. You are selling that condition with conditions. If you found a truth then just release the information free of charge and enjoy the fact that you saved the world from itself. Don't go down the same road that all the rest have gone. By starting out with the zeal of rediscovering the greatest discovery in humankind to only try to sell it to the highest bidders. That tact will only bring the same results as the original discoverer of this method and it didn't turn out so well did it for him?
Learn from history and break the cycle. Give it to the world with the original intention and zeal it took you to complete the job. That way it will be viral and spread without making it a death sentence. You are talking about making every oil field a very small fraction of what it is worth and that makes alot of very very unhappy oilmen poor. Make them poor and you start to understand what length they will go to protect thier bottom line and what these men value the most worthless (money). Be smart or it will come back to bite you.

[Dave45]

Greed

[moose 53]

greed

Dave45 , In all fairness you should wait and see the arrangement tutanka makes before you say that the monetary rewards are undeserved.

[dambit]

Great work guys!!

Also, what is all this talk of satelites?? What do they have to do with water fuel?

Cheers,

Steve.

[natone_m]

Disclosure Release

How close is your team on releasing you proof of concept disclosure? When your team is prepared how do you plan on going viral with your ideas? Will you sell plans or are you wanting to manuafacture this technology. I know in your previous post you stated that you had no desire to discuss the technology with any corperations. Does this mean you have no plans for production?

[tutanka]

How close is your team on releasing you proof of concept disclosure? When your team is prepared how do you plan on going viral with your ideas? Will you sell plans or are you wanting to manuafacture this technology. I know in your previous post you stated that you had no desire to discuss the technology with any corperations. Does this mean you have no plans for production?

We have changed commercial plans. WE DON'T SELL COMPLETE WATER SYSTEM. WE WANT THAT GOVERNMENTS OPEN THE DOORS BECAUSE DON'T HAVE SENSE START AN WAR. TODAY GOVERNMENTS apply tax on combustibles and users buy combustibles to distributor, tomorrow GOVERNMENT APPLY LOW TAX on micronic fuel and users mount standard LPG system on car, buy an special ignition kit and simple install that (around 1000USD) and buy micronic gas at very low price from an micronic distributor/creator and put inside LPG tank. Only supercars like that Pagani Automobili S.p.A. - Zonda R - Zonda Roadster F can have onboard complete micronic gas creator. ONLY in second phase all cars can buy complete micronic gas creator, cut LPG tank and use micronic gas directly. With that solution pollution can be eliminated immediately..

[Altair]

@ rosco1 & associates,

I just found this thread. Yes, somewhat late but anyway...

I can't believe how irresponsible you are, all three of you, claiming out to everyone what you accomplished, but not giving all the info needed for reproducible experiments.
You don't seem to realize in what (dangerous) position you're placing yourselves.
Don't get me wrong, I DO believe that you've got a breakthrough here, but you really should be more thoughtful before you go public with such an announcement.

PLEASE inform yourselves about the ongoing suppression of new technologies and either: Stay quiet until you're ready to disclose everything at once, or
Stay quiet forever.

Another thing, please never trust the governments, never go to them with your invention, it's technological suicide !

Good luck in your endeavors...

[natone_m]

availability

Will plans be available to the public so do-it-yourselfers can make working units or will distribution be controlled or limited to selling kits?

[rileydad48]

We have changed commercial plans. WE DON'T SELL COMPLETE WATER SYSTEM. WE WANT THAT GOVERNMENTS OPEN THE DOORS BECAUSE DON'T HAVE SENSE START AN WAR. TODAY GOVERNMENTS apply tax on combustibles and users buy combustibles to distributor, tomorrow GOVERNMENT APPLY LOW TAX on micronic fuel and users mount standard LPG system on car, buy an special ignition kit and simple install that (around 1000USD) and buy micronic gas at very low price from an micronic distributor/creator and put inside LPG tank. Only supercars like that Pagani Automobili S.p.A. - Zonda R - Zonda Roadster F can have onboard complete micronic gas creator. ONLY in second phase all cars can buy complete micronic gas creator, cut LPG tank and use micronic gas directly. With that solution pollution can be eliminated immediately..

I have no idea what you just said...

[Allcanadian]

@Tutanka

We have changed commercial plans. WE DON'T SELL COMPLETE WATER SYSTEM. WE WANT THAT GOVERNMENTS OPEN THE DOORS BECAUSE DON'T HAVE SENSE START AN WAR. TODAY GOVERNMENTS apply tax on combustibles and users buy combustibles to distributor, tomorrow GOVERNMENT APPLY LOW TAX on micronic fuel and users mount standard LPG system on car, buy an special ignition kit and simple install that (around 1000USD) and buy micronic gas at very low price from an micronic distributor/creator and put inside LPG tank. Only supercars like that Pagani Automobili S.p.A. - Zonda R - Zonda Roadster F can have onboard complete micronic gas creator. ONLY in second phase all cars can buy complete micronic gas creator, cut LPG tank and use micronic gas directly. With that solution pollution can be eliminated immediately..

LOL, thanks for that, I was almost rolling on the floor l was laughing so hard. Government control, special kits at $1000 US and micronic fuel distributors no less. Wow, you guys intend to rule this technology with an iron fist but then we can't have the poor and others building their own systems can we. You my friend are everything that is wrong in this world and I can only hope you get what you really deserve.

AC

[tutanka]

@Tutanka


LOL, thanks for that, I was almost rolling on the floor l was laughing so hard. Government control, special kits at $1000 US and micronic fuel distributors no less. Wow, you guys intend to rule this technology with an iron fist but then we can't have the poor and others building their own systems can we. You my friend are everything that is wrong in this world and I can only hope you get what you really deserve.

AC

Another man that want all for free

[natone_m]

good luck

Good Luck uprooting the energy cartels. Personally it is my belief that a cartel that has had a strangle-hold over not only people but governments as well for around 100 years will allow you or your group to implement a plan like that on any level.

Correct me if i'm wrongfully reading into your reply but the idea is basically that if governments are allowed to tax this technology that you will be allowed to mass produce it? Government control via taxation is one of the main motivating reasons a lot of people on this forum are trying to discover these technologies. Am I wrong?

As far as governments jumping on board...don't bet on it. Governments in general (not just in the US) are heavily lobbied if not primarily controlled by the energy cartels. The Governments would be the last people i'd want on board with me. Do you trust your government that much??? Try to answer that one with a straight face.

I'm sure by reading your posts that you are by no means a stranger to Stanley Meyers, his life, his technology, his goals, and his untimely and questionable death. Stan Meyers also saw it fit to keep the lid on his technology in hopes that he could independently become the "Bill Gates" of water fuel technology. Ask him how his stand against the energy cartel went.

Even though you say you do not want to start a war, it has already begun and has been going on for 100 years. You are going up against oil companies, natural gas companies, propane companies, refining companies, nuclear power providers, coal companies, hydro-electric power providers, solar power providers, wind power providers, and huge electric coopratives (just to name a few) in every country big and small across this planet. It seems to me an absurd thought to think that a three member team will be able to get the job done. It doesn't matter how "stubborn" the energy cartel finds you to be or the fact that you live in three different countries because you are dealing with the RICHEST,the most POWERFUL, and most RELENTLESS multination force on this planet.

I truly hope you can find a way to get your technology out there. I also hope that you can make alittle money off it. After all, you discovered it, you are entitled to it, and you deserve it. However, the manner in which you chosen has been shown by history and those before you to be fool hearted. I hope to see your sucesses come to light. I hope also you don't end up either bought off, or worse.... You are in my prayers.

Regards