Dirty electrcity

[digitz]

Hi digitz yes we did and we used them in the filming(editing the video in next 2 weeks), above in my post Donner fisher letter she talks about them

I learn more each day on this issue and the STETZERiZER meter and filters. Normally an electrical engineer uses a $6500 fluke scope meter to measure dirty electricity and has to interpret a graph. In using the STETZERiZER meter which retails for $160 you simply insert it into the electrical socket in your home or workplace and it gives you a number which should not be over 30. This technology is truly incredible and makes it very easy for the public to measure dirty electricity levels in their personal environments. Installing enough filters at $50 each removes the dirty electricity from the building sending it back to the grid, also creating a barrier around your home and stopping the dirty electricity that is being supplied to us from coming into our homes.

Here is the meter we used
https://www.stetzerelectric.com/

Guess what the safe level is? 30 -50 GS units.
GUESS WHAT OUR HOUSE HAD?
600-700 UNITS!

It's pretty hight compared to the safe level, i imagine some ppl have even higher.
The first step everyone can do is to clean up the bedroom, just by putting out maximum of electric stuff.

Nice video of the savers and filters or dirty electricity!

[ashtweth]

Yes, I'll stuck my neck out here and say every one's bedroom most likely has too many GS units and needs filtering for better sleep/health. We did that for Matt as he donated them to us, am trying to find some open source energy saver's Schemo's, at least the filters are .

[sucahyo]

@sucahyo the alignments are listed on the web sites i posted my friend.

Which?

According to this link bellow I expected to get cancer, poor short-term memory, chronic fatigue, depression, nausea, and rashes.
Schematics

My stingo is a very efficient CFL lighter (3watt full brightness), decent ozone maker (remove cigarette odour in minutes) and decent charger (>50% efficency), that utilize the best switching mechanism (IMO) out of two transistor. And the worst part (according to abstract) work at random frequency, especially when I use it as ozone maker . My stingo definitely qualify.

[Green Dude 85]

I believe in your ideas and Im loving this forum, Finally people who get it. Its nice to see people who care rather than those who doubt. Keep up the good work ASH

[sucahyo]

BTW, I think you should considering to lend the meter to Bedini because I found this:
http://www.electricalpollution.com/d...threat_sum.pdf

There are NO safety standards to safeguard the public health from exposure to high
frequencies on building wiring, resulting in widespread availability of dangerous consumer
products including:
o Compact fluorescent light bulbs and other fluorescent lights with electronic ballasts.
o Dimmer switches, variable speed motors, etc.
o Inverters, including those on wind turbines and solar systems.

That include the brand new Bedini Tesla Solar Power Amplifier!

I keenly wait Peter Lindemann or John Bedini comment on this.

[digitz]

BTW, I think you should considering to lend the meter to Bedini because I found this:
http://www.electricalpollution.com/d...threat_sum.pdf
That include the brand new Bedini Tesla Solar Power Amplifier!

I keenly wait Peter Lindemann or John Bedini comment on this.

Not sure about the Bedini Tesla Solar device, it works in another way, it's radiant energy.

About the regular solar devices, i definitely wouldn't sleep or even work long time next to an inverter, must be generating serious waves. That makes me wonder about the UPS power savers next to computers..

[sucahyo]

Not sure about the Bedini Tesla Solar device, it works in another way, it's radiant energy.

Bedini Tesla Solar Device definitely use a very efficient transistor and surely work above 10KHz. It work just like an inverter that switching maybe some big cap to enhance output.

Radiant oscillator use switching. Better switching = better radiant.

I am positive that any radiant oscillator is included because of this statement:
Schematics

An inexpensive hand held AM radio receiver will detect these signals. Tune the receiver to the lowest frequency on the dial (about 500 kilohertz) which is below the lowest frequency broadcast station, turn up the volume, and you will hear a noise. As the receiver comes closer to a transmitter, the noise becomes louder. Try it near dimmer switches at various settings, personal computer displays and keyboards, fax machines, microwave ovens, electronic telephones, high efficiency fluorescent lamp bulbs, video tape recorders, and hand held hair dryers. The effects on humans depend on the path the currents produced by these fields takes through the humans, on the sensitivity of the individual, and on the amplitude, waveform, and duration of the fields. There is strong evidence that these currents may cause cancers, but this report is concerned with reducing the symptoms that humans can directly observe in themselves, such as poor short-term memory, chronic fatigue, depression, nausea, and rashes.

I am more than sure that my oscillator will produce noise to AM radio, my spark can even blank computer monitor screen! Some of us even use AM radio to know the resonance of Bedini SSG.

Ashtweth, I just watch the video (took a day to download it...). I have question. While I know that a 20uF capacitor can do big wonder to power factor correction. How about 20 or more of 20uF capacitor in parallel? Since what you shown before that capacitor have to be matched with load. And too many may not be as efficient as a correct value.

Schematics

An inexpensive hand held AM radio can be used to make preliminary measurements to detect electrical pollution. Each filter is made from a 20µf motor run A.C. dry film capacitor with a bleeder resistor (for safety) and a properly attached cord. (The A.C. dry film capacitor used in the initial test filters was the Panasonic JSU18X206AQD.) Approximately 20 such filters are needed to reduce exposure to electrical pollution in the home.

Solutions

Approximately 20 Graham/Stetzer filters are needed for the average house. They should be plugged in near sources of high frequencies, as well as, frequently used electrical appliances. (Some devices generate pollution that the capacitor will lower at the receptical, but will not lower at the device. This is a particular concern when people are close to the device, as they are with hairdryers, sewing machines, and low voltage halogen desk and reading lamps.) A couple should be plugged into outlets installed off of both A and B phases next to the main service box. (Have your electrician use properly rated stranded wire to wire the outlets for maximal filter effectiveness.) The rest should be scattered throughout the house. If improvement occurs only slowly, more filters may be necessary. If way too few are installed initially, no difference may be observed, so it is very important to put in sufficient quantity from the start.

StetzerElectric.com - STETZERiZER Filters Overview

Filters are designed to be installed throughout the home in a pattern that corresponds to the distributed nature of the need. For example, installing two filters close to a desktop computer or a television is normally appropriate and effective. Installing filters, normally from two to six, close to the input power panel is recommended to address high frequency currents entering on the power lines. The total number of filters required depends on the size of the home, the amount of electrical equipment, and the quality of the power from the grid. Twenty filters are normally adequate for a "typical" house.

Installing an inadequate number of filters tends to result in overloaded filters, leading to an ineffective solution. The preferred installation method is to be guided by the STETZERiZER Microsurge Meter, which measures the amount of high frequency energy present. Readings of 30 or lower indicate an acceptable environment, while readings of 50 or higher indicate a need for additional filters. Readings between 30 and 50 are marginally acceptable, but should be reduced if anyone in the area is electrically sensitive.

StetzerElectric.com - STETZERiZER Filters Installation Overview

Note: Many homes may not have enough open outlets to install the number of filters needed to clean up the home. If this is the case, purchase several power strips, plug your electronic devices into them, and install filters in the power strips as per the instructions below.

[sucahyo]

As an addition, I think there are people that have bedini like charger run for more than 8 hours a day (I know one that run it a week continuously), which I think work around 10KHz or so. Dr. Martin Graham says that is unhealthy:
Spectrum Analyser

The electrical pollution at a power receptical in a home can be measured with a spectrum analyzer. These are expensive instruments (over $10,000) and are not simple to use.

The spectrum analyzer displays indicate that the pollution is mainly in the frequency range of 10 kHz to 50 kHz and is pulsed. They also indicate the change in level of pollution with time of day due to the variation in pollution from the utility with the variation of load on the utility. Also shown is the decrease in the level of pollution with one 20 µF capacitor plugged into the power receptical.

Dr. Martin Graham, Professor Emeritus at University of California in Berkeley, obtained the spectra shown below using a spectrum analyzer. They illustrate the above points.

Any Gray tube/SSG/Joule Thief/Bedini monopole/Imhotep lighter/Tesla Switch/Radiant charger replicator want to give opinion? Do you feel sick around your device?

According to this document, it takes week to notice the difference. The document mention reduction of illness, but surely it work on accumulation too.
http://www.electricalpollution.com/d...tetzer_WHO.pdf

[digitz]

Sucahyo, the ringing from the coil of Jetijs schematics circuit for recharging batteries (from one of SS Bedini threads) was disturbing me, while it is a very efficient one. The noise it makes, but more the energy i feel from it wasn't making me good. I closed it in a little room and avoid to stay there long time apart to turn it on/off or make battery measurements.

In your case, if you can't do other way, i would try to cover it with some metal grill to make a sort of faraday cage, that wouldn't hurt. (like what the TPU guys are doing on overunity forum to protect from scalar waves) . You could make a test with your AM radio before and after.

About theTesla Bedini Solar device, i wasn't aware of what was inside.

[sucahyo]

I once had a radiant charger that make me feel sick. It is very inefficient and produce more conventional than radiant. A change of duty cycle / frequency change the sickness level.

After I use PNP to NPN tandem, I never experience it again. A glass of water placed near the coil confirm it. It taste better than right after I refill it. The whinning is not too annoying, it change to shhh when the battery almost full or load has very low impedance.

Now, I always want to turn it on. I am sure that both version make AM radio sing. But only one of them make me sick. Dr. Martin Graham believe that both version are poisonous. Let see how other expert explain this.

[sucahyo]

I think silent field is an immature science resulted from inadequate research.

If this science made it to legislation and produce law, then Royal Rife EM based cancer cure will be suppressed, along with hundreds of patent utilizing HF to cure illness .

Everyone replicating bedini charger or its variants can go to jail because according to silent field/dirty electricity bedini charger is a pollutant.

And I think any negative ion maker is also considered pollutant according to Dr Martin Graham description.

Silent field definitely ignore any work related to electromagnetic connection with health.

As for explanation for bad vibe observed on Joule thief or SEC, Gary Vassilatos and Paulo Correa mention that radiant oscillator can produce either DOR and OR. If you get bad vibe then your oscillator produce DOR. The key is the switching. According to GV mediocre switching produce DOR, while very abrupt switching produce OR. Paulo Correa state the opposite.

Notice that the symptoms of dirty electricity is very similar to symptoms of deadly orgone (DOR).

Either way, pulsed electricity can produce either bad or good vibe depend on switching mechanism, irrespective of frequency. If your produce bad vibe, find a way to correct it. Don't throw it away.

Anyone still insist that sparky loose connection or pulsed HF oscillator produce dirty electricity explain why in this picture bellow, the man feel relaxed:


That man do not die because of cancer. He die old in poverty.

[ashtweth]

> I think silent field is an immature science resulted from inadequate research.

sucahyo please stop spamming these ideas of yours in this Thread, PHD's Magna and others have already proven ill effects to the world health organization plus Donner's research has too. Go read Magda's site and scientific bio feedback papers. This opinion is without scientific basis.

Tesla did not sit in high voltage 24 seven, the rife machine does not produce constant effects, such as the dirty electricity in the home with over 50GS units all day.
, sucahyo that is a ridiculous post please dont pollute valid scientific research with spam, that's all it is.

>symptoms of dirty electricity is very similar to symptoms of deadly orgone (DOR).

No study has ever been done to compare the Autism,(read above) diabetes and other stuff dirty electricity has been shown to aggravate to DOR sickness.
DOR symptoms can be alleviated with a water bath and grounding, Autism diabetes and others cannot
This is just Random ideas please stick to the facts.

Again you have not read the scientific papers from Donner and Magda, dont compare it with idea's please stick to the FACTS.
I dont have time to make you look at whats black and white. We have shown enough and more will be shown.

Thanks for the info on Gary Vassilatos and Paulo Correa. Caution is advised and metering your projects is advised, Ask Dr Stiffler about biological effects.

Ash

[sucahyo]

You have no intention on including comment from Peter Lindemann or John Bedini?

I try to stop you from suppressing Royal Rife. If administrator consider I am spamming, I don't mind being banned from this forum.

My own experience show that my circuit can change taste of water by changing duty cycle / frequency. I doubt the meter can show the difference. My charger have been in front of me running 5 hours a day in average from the time I start posting radiant oscillator in this forum. And yet I do not experience such weird behaviour. The only time I get agitated is when I get stinged. Even 1 cm spark do not give me bad vibe, the only reason I do not turn spark maker all day long is it disturb my computer severely enough to break computer monitor only after 1 minutes of running.

I share room with 4 people, and when my circuit is turned on no one have poor short-term memory, chronic fatigue, depression, nausea, and rashes.

True that electricity can produce bad health effect. But I strongly believe that even our circuit can produce good health effect. Our circuit do not just producing bad electricity, it can also produce a good one. If yours can't, find a way to fix it!

Is there a proof that health effect is proportional with high meter reading? What kind of dirty electricity is the worst? Tell me what and I try to replicate it and put it in front of my friends face or something.

I already post a concern whether utilizing radiant is a good thing or not, ignored as usual, but that let me learn what most of you ignored, the effect of radiant circuit to the body. And so far I conclude that it can produce good, bad or neutral.

I strongly believe that the statement bellow is not a lie:

On the John Marsh, Rife audio CDs Dr. Rife also made this statement about his RF frequency instrument:

RIFE: “I stood in front of that thing for thirty years finding these different frequencies that devitalize these different bacteria. And that thing [RF ray tube] was shooting on me right here [his chest], but it is absolutely harmless to normal tissue and each individual bacteria requiring a different frequency to devitalize.”

Royal Rife did mention that spesific frequency. Can any of your "dirty electricity" scientist list it?

Another:

Each increase brought increase in the internal heating effects. He remained poised at each power level, sensing and scoping his own physiology for danger signs. He continued raising the power level until the magnetic arc reached its full buzzing roar. Tesla found that this heat could be adjusted and, when not extreme, was completely enjoyable. So soothing, relaxing, and comfortable was this manifestation that Tesla daily exposed himself to the energies. An electrical "sauna".

He later reported these findings in medical journals, freely offering the discovery to the medical world for its therapeutic benefits. Tesla was a notorious user of all such therapies from this time on, often falling into a deep sleep in the warm and penetrating influences. Once, having overindulged the electro-sauna therapy, he fell into a profoundly deep sleep from which he emerged a day later!

He reported that this experience was not unpleasant, but realized that proper "electro-dosages" would necessarily have to be determined by medical personnel. During this time, Tesla found shorter impulse lengths where the heating effect disappeared altogether, rendering the radiance absolutely harmless. These impulse trains were so very high that the deepest nerves of one's body could not sense the permeating radiant energy field. Now he could pursue his vision of broadcast energy systems without fear of rendering to humanity a technological curse, rather than a true blessing.

Dr Martin Graham state that 10KHz to 50KHz pulsed is poisonous. Which is exactly the frequency of most free energy circuit. And you seem to don't mind if WHO banned free energy oscillator because Dr Martin Graham said so.

As for frequency effect for biological, I ask you and Dr stiffler to look at:
Igor Smirnov:
Method and device for producing ... - Google Patent Search
http://www.vandrøring.dk/pdffiler/Activated%20water.pdf

Water activated with this mixture found to be excellent for use for enhancing setting of concrete and removal of bacteria from contaminated water, as well for rejuvination of healthy cell

Some Andrija Puharich health device patents use frequency overlapping Dr Martin Graham frequency. I believe Adrija Puharich more. It seems that you believe Dr Martin Graham more.

This may be your thread and my argument may warrant another thread. But I don't. Because I think you are being used as disinformation pawn.

[ashtweth]

sucahyo your welcome to get a meter and test your device. Go study the bio feedback metering that relate to the thread topic i have said this already,.I have already asked you nicely to stay on topic. This fantasy about banning stuff of yours has nothing to do with the health effect studies which show that filters at our home and work will improve our health. Or that some places could have harmful GS units. The data is there please stop asking me to show you it. PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC. I am talking about specific research and specific proven health effects and have gone to a lot of trouble to measure and do these. Please stay on topic and give objective idea's thanks , not much to ask.

>5 hours a day in average from the time
>I share room with 4 people, and when my circuit is turned on no one have poor short-term memory, chronic fatigue, depression, nausea, and rashes.

Thats got nothing to do in comparison with the tests and time duration of the GS units on biofeedback metering presented in the sites i told you to study already.
Not apples with apples. RIDICULOUS post again, even after i already told you that you were doing the same thing last post!.

>And you seem to don't mind if WHO banned free energy oscillator because Dr Martin Graham said so.

This has got NOTHING to do with the health effects posted by GS units that we are exposed to DAILY in the home and work office or the filters we can use to improve our health. If you want to filter your FE stuff, then there is research to back up reasoning to do so. Go get your meter and test it, the GS units on health are already proven. Please do not spam this thread with one of those again. I have asked you nicely. The proof is there that these effects exist, its not my problem that you dont like to hear it. This thread is about proven health effects and what people can do and be cautious of, not your paranoia of devices getting banned. The facts are if a technology is bad for your health you should filter it. none of what your saying makes any sense or is related, please dont force me to complain and stay on topic thanks


Ash

[sucahyo]

Ok. I already post my point and warn you enough. It is a shame that you don't answer some of my question:
1. Do you have no intention to include comment from Peter Lindemann or John Bedini? (yes or no is sufficient, I won't press further).
2. What kind of dirty electricity is the worst? (don't ask me to look for my self please, just mention what without having to quote it from somewhere)