Dirty electrcity

[ashtweth]

Please re read the post above it has been added too.

Ash

[sucahyo]

sucahyo your welcome to get a meter and test your device. Go study the bio feedback metering that relate to the thread topic i have said this already,.I have already asked you nicely to stay on topic. This fantasy about banning stuff of yours has nothing to do with the health effect studies which show that filters at our home and work will improve our health. Or that some places could have harmful GS units. The data is there please stop asking me to show you it. PLEASE STAY ON TOPIC. I am talking about specific research and specific proven health effects and have gone to a lot of trouble to measure and do these. Please stay on topic and give objective idea's thanks , not much to ask.

>5 hours a day in average from the time
>I share room with 4 people, and when my circuit is turned on no one have poor short-term memory, chronic fatigue, depression, nausea, and rashes.

Thats got nothing to do in comparison with the tests and time duration of the GS units on biofeedback metering presented in the sites i told you to study already.
Not apples with apples. RIDICULOUS post again, even after i already told you that you were doing the same thing last post!.

>And you seem to don't mind if WHO banned free energy oscillator because Dr Martin Graham said so.

This has got NOTHING to do with the health effects posted by GS units that we are exposed to DAILY in the home and work office or the filters we can use to improve our health. If you want to filter your FE stuff, then there is research to back up reasoning to do so. Go get your meter and test it, the GS units on health are already proven. Please do not spam this thread with one of those again. I have asked you nicely. The proof is there that these effects exist, its not my problem that you dont like to hear it. This thread is about proven health effects and what people can do and be cautious of, not your paranoia of devices getting banned. The facts are if a technology is bad for your health you should filter it. none of what your saying makes any sense or is related, please dont force me to complain and stay on topic thanks


Ash

Ok. I already post my point and warn you enough. It is a shame that you don't answer some of my question:
1. Do you have no intention to include comment from Peter Lindemann or John Bedini? (yes or no is sufficient, I won't press further).
2. What kind of dirty electricity is the worst? (don't ask me to look for my self please, just mention what without having to quote it from somewhere)

Please re read the post above it has been added too.

Ash

I assume your answer are:
1. Yes. This has got NOTHING to do with the health effects posted by GS units that we are exposed to DAILY in the home and work office or the filters we can use to improve our health. If you want to filter your FE stuff, then there is research to back up reasoning to do so.
2. Go study the bio feedback metering that relate to the thread topic.

[ashtweth]

If document or video about dirty electricity is in the making, I hope it would also contain comment from:
- John Bedini, that live around big device utilizing transient voltage and with experience trying to replicate Royal Rife high frequency healing device.
- Peter Lindemann, that write some article about the benefit of special electronic device for health, either by direct wiring to the body or by radiation.

This is an issue you can only compare with bio feedback metering , i said this already.(Posts: 1,258 ) Grab a GS meter and test them. Not apples with apples, compare them already said that. The facts are that Donner and Magda have shown through validated bio feedback metering research that GS units effect health. This can be in the home or work place. and they show that filters lower the GS units and this improves our health. FACTS, there for any one to study.

Before you claim to know everything about electricity do some more research sucahyo. And do what i do sucahyo, RESEARCH THE PAPERS and get the meters and measure, please dont post Random "idea"s. I was not impressed as i already answered you three times and told you to look deeper into it. I dont have any more time to help you on this matter , i thank you for staying on topic.

thanks
Ashtweth

[sucahyo]

This is an issue you can only compare with bio feedback metering , i said this already. The facts are that Donner and Magda have shown through validated bio feedback metering research that GS units effect health.

This can be in the home or work place. and they show that filters lower the GS units and this improves our health. FACTS, there for any one to study.

Before you claim to know everything about electricity you better do some more research sucahyo. And do what i do sucahyo, RESEARCH THE PAPERS and get the meters and measure, dont post Random "idea"s. I was not impressed as i already answered you three times and told you to look deeper into it. I dont have any more time to help you on this matter , i thank you for staying on topic.

thanks
Ashtweth

Ok, you state that lower GS unit improve our health and higher GS unit reduce our health. I don't believe that and I don't trust bio feedback metering reliability.

[ashtweth]

Well that means

1) Your either not of sound mind

or

2) You have not read the scientific studies by Dr. Magda Havas(Dr. Magda Havas, PhD) , Russia and MANY OTHERS or dis proven them.Or have shown by bio feedback metering like they have that GS units can be measured, negatively effect health and filters stop them(GS units) and improve health that way. Plus you dont know exactly what Magda or Donner are comparing and talking about. That's obvious sucahyo. Please do not pollute the thread with no basis or spam thanks.

Ash

[sucahyo]

Well that means

1) Your either not of sound mind

or

2) You have not read the scientific studies by Dr. Magda Havas(Dr. Magda Havas, PhD) , Russia and MANY OTHERS or dis proven them.Or have shown by bio feedback metering like they have that GS unit can be measured, effect health and filters stop them(GS units). Plus you dont know exactly what Magda or Donner are comparing and talking about. That's obvious sucahyo. Please do not pollute the thread with no basis or spam thanks.

Ash

second option. Already post why. I doubt GS unit has anything to do with our health. Doubting bio feedback metering reliability based on information from Spectrum Analyser (The spectrum analyzer displays indicate that the pollution is mainly in the frequency range of 10 kHz to 50 kHz and is pulsed) and StetzerElectric.com - STETZERiZER Meter Overview (High frequencies are the frequencies which are most harmful to equipment, animals, and humans) .

[ashtweth]

Okay this does not mention the bio feedback metering that Dr. Magda Havas and other used with the meter to show it does measure and the filters do help. Biological effects in the studies on Dr. Magda Havas site, which was used in the WHO study. No compassion to back up what your saying,, dood, i never thought any one here would after many posts of my time ignore me. I hope i have helped you look into the study deeper.

Ash

[sucahyo]

I still wish you are willing to answer what can cause the worst "dirty electricity" so that anyone without meter can verify even if it require weeks of observation.

Edit: Sorry, forget it, I forgot that you must have the meter to know if "dirty electricity" disturb your health.

[digitz]

Sucahyo, i remarked that the problem on these forums is very often the focus on the topic of the thread.
The discussion here is about dirty electricity in homes, it concerns 95-99% of worlds population. The radiant and rife devices you talk about concern 0,000001% of population or maybe even less, it's just an estimation. It merits it's own thread as it is very narrow focused compared to "general dirty electricity".
What it means is that changing the focus of the discussion to radiant devices will lead some people who want improve their homes to go on a road not leading anywhere (as they have nothing to do with radiant devices). And it doesn't change if these devices are good or bad for health.

Thanks for bringing your ideas on this subject i am interested as well, here is just not the best place.

When John Bedini was on the Tesla Switch thread, he wanted to help with the Tesla Switch, for ppl to get it, understand it, the discussion was all focused on Switching batteries.

[ashtweth]

Yes sucahyo this is correct, but its also important for you to study HOW the house wiring produces it (harmonics poor PF etc), Wifi and others IN THOSE CONDITIONS and how THEY (not just any HF source) effect us through their validated studies. The stuff on Autism blows my mind. Filters are open source dont forget.

[sucahyo]

The discussion here is about dirty electricity in homes, it concerns 95-99% of worlds population. The radiant and rife devices you talk about concern 0,000001% of population or maybe even less, it's just an estimation.

The concern is I don't believe high frequency cause "dirty electricity". That include many common electrical unit or medical device.

Yes sucahyo this is correct, but its also important for you to study HOW the house wiring produces it (harmonics poor PF etc), Wifi and others IN THOSE CONDITIONS and how THEY (not just any HF source) effect us through their validated studies. The stuff on Autism blows my mind. Filters are open source dont forget.

That is not what I read here:
http://www.magdahavas.com/wordpress/...plained-09.pdf

Note the relation between GS unit and frequency. GS unit relate to high frequency and voltage of those frequency. No other factor counted. Filter eliminate the high frequency.


If you really want to include negative ion generator make sure to make it work at 60Hz pure sine wave and not pulsed, or else GS unit show very high value.


It's rather sad that even you who has read most of the material can not answer what can cause the worst "dirty electricity".

[digitz]

The concern is I don't believe high frequency cause "dirty electricity". That include many common electrical unit or medical device.

That is not what I read here:
http://www.magdahavas.com/wordpress/...plained-09.pdf

Note the relation between GS unit and frequency. GS unit relate to high frequency and voltage of those frequency. No other factor counted. Filter eliminate the high frequency.


If you really want to include negative ion generator make sure to make it work at 60Hz pure sine wave and not pulsed, or else GS unit show very high value.


It's rather sad that even you who has read most of the material can not answer what can cause the worst "dirty electricity".

This filter eliminates high frequency from socket wall, which eventually is a powerful and always present source.

[sucahyo]

This filter eliminates high frequency from socket wall, which eventually is a powerful and always present source.

Sorry, what do you mean?

[digitz]

This thread focus on eliminating illness from our home electricity system which is already a lot.

If you open the discussion to All high frequency, it won't end, because we don't have the answers.

[sucahyo]

This thread focus on eliminating illness from our home electricity system which is already a lot.

If you open the discussion to All high frequency, it won't end, because we don't have the answers.

I complain because "dirty electricity" state that all high frequency cause health problem. Because our electricity safety is said to be related with the amount of high frequency in the electrical wire, all of it, whichever that is, without being discreet. I still don't get what you mean.