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sucahyo, i am more concerned of the POSITIVE IONS.
Think about a Bedini Fan.....
We need negative Ions to live
Is that really the same one as in Bedini?
Do you have a good reference for this positive ion?
Since the exact spesific what positive ion mean can be different in different literature.
Garry Vassilatos positive ion is not the one that cause cancer. It is the virus. While negative ion impulse can kill cancer, virus do not become active because of positive ion. It is because of rare gas / radioactive rays. Same device that kill cancer can produce both postive and negative.
In odyle, we need both. I am now more concerned with od-positive. While all the device around us produce more od-positive, there are ways to produce od-negative.
The symptoms bellow is similar to people experiencing too much od-positive. Schematics
There is strong evidence that these currents may cause cancers, but this report is concerned with reducing the symptoms that humans can directly observe in themselves, such as poor short-term memory, chronic fatigue, depression, nausea, and rashes.
People need od-positive to gain power to work such like the example of orgone pendant. And od-positive also used to cure cancer just like the case of orgone accumulator.
Do you have a good reference for this positive ion?
Since the exact spesific what positive ion mean can be different in different literature.
Garry Vassilatos positive ion is not the one that cause cancer. It is the virus. While negative ion impulse can kill cancer, virus do not become active because of positive ion. It is because of rare gas / radioactive rays. Same device that kill cancer can produce both postive and negative.
In odyle, we need both. I am now more concerned with od-positive. While all the device around us produce more od-positive, there are ways to produce od-negative.
The symptoms bellow is similar to people experiencing too much od-positive. Schematics
People need od-positive to gain power to work such like the example of orgone pendant. And od-positive also used to cure cancer just like the case of orgone accumulator.
Hi sucahyo, yes look up negative ions IN THE AIR, Scientific research about negative ions
i think electricity can produce positive ions also. Negative ion generators are becoming popular, the guy i just spoke to thinks that the positive ions are produced from electricity, i am looking into this now and will post some more references ASAP.
Check this out, there is even dirty electricity on switches
DEMAND SWITCHES …automatic removal of disturbing mains fields http://www.equilibrauk.com/demand.shtml
Hi sucahyo, yes look up negative ions IN THE AIR, Scientific research about negative ions
i think electricity can produce positive ions also. Negative ion generators are becoming popular, the guy i just spoke to thinks that the positive ions are produced from electricity, i am looking into this now and will post some more references ASAP.
Check this out, there is even dirty electricity on switches
DEMAND SWITCHES …automatic removal of disturbing mains fields http://www.equilibrauk.com/demand.shtml
I see. thanks. Forgot about that. mood enhancing negative ion.
My opinion is slightly different now. I don't see negative as the only one necessary. Without positive ion we wouldn't feel motivated since all we want to do is sleep.
I see negative ion effect is just like the mood lifting event before storm or near waterfall. Water drop produce electricity, big cloud produce electricity. I think it is more like live air instead of negatively ionize air. I think negative ion vs positive ion as live air vs stagnan air.
I still see it do not relate to critical illness. Maybe like the difference between dead water and live water, only now is air.
Remember the discussion about 50Hz is the most lethal frequency for human according to Tesla? I think even 50Hz is also dangerous for health, not just High frequency RF. I guess anything with coil should be considered dangerous.
I made a simple AV plug made from 1N4007 and diode. The LED light up when I test it on metal of my appliances, on some of the bolt near the electricity plug too....
Demand switches look interesting. However, if the installer put it wrong it would be no use because the live wire would still be transmitting electricity.
Hello my friend!,. I guess its all about natures balance, thing is i think WE (through bad technology) produce more positive ions (even through electricity) than negative ones can regenerate through nature. We certifiably produce more EMR, Wifi and dirty electricity than normal nature would like.
I am working on an AIO OPEN SOURCE, filter, power saver and negative ion generator . I have the filter and power factor one down, just need a good negative ion generator THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE OZONE...
I am working on an AIO OPEN SOURCE, filter, power saver and negative ion generator . I have the filter and power factor one down, just need a good negative ion generator THAT DOES NOT PRODUCE OZONE...
Nice . Is that possible?
The ionization thread need the opposite .
Thanks for the reference . see sharp plasma cluster too. It run on plasma cluster mode when needed, otherwise it run on ionizer mode.
I don't know if its ok to reverse engineer it. The unit it self is small...
If document or video about dirty electricity is in the making, I hope it would also contain comment from:
- John Bedini, that live around big device utilizing transient voltage and with experience trying to replicate Royal Rife high frequency healing device.
- Peter Lindemann, that write some article about the benefit of special electronic device for health, either by direct wiring to the body or by radiation.
Grab a GS unit to measure and grab filters, we did, nothing else matters
Letter from Donna fisher
In what has been a very busy year for the dirty electricity issue and myself, to finish the two years since I founded the non-profit organisation DONNA FISHER SILENT FIELDS Inc. I have been invited to speak on “Dirty Electricity and the link to Cancer, Diabetes and Autism’ in Chicago on June 6, 2010. As one of the world experts on the dirty electricity issue is unable to attend - as he is an expert witness in a court case for the people - he invited me to speak on his behalf, which truly is an honour.
The calibre of the other speakers is impressive and includes two speakers who have been guests on the Oprah show, so hopefully our message that dirty electricity is killing people and making others very sick will be heard loud and clear and spread widely to inform more people of the dangers of dirty electricity.
Every day I constantly work on highlighting this issue and am currently running several projects. At the moment our organisation is helping a woman in Victoria to stand strong in her stance that the dirty electricity in her workplace needs to be removed. I am also helping another woman in Western Australia who is making the slow recovery from breast cancer and believes her workplace caused her cancer and is hindering her recovery. I am also helping the people of Singleton where there is a brain cancer cluster as all the doors in the corridors of power have been firmly closed on the subject.
The dirty electricity plague is now being more fully recognised with many doctors and specialists now requiring my books for their information and helping their patients. Doctors are now helping their patients by supplying the dirty electricity filters that I mentioned in my books and we are having some wonderful progress. A doctor in Brisbane put 15 filters in his home and his 12 year old autistic daughter improved dramatically in 2 weeks. He has taken before and after tests and as we await the results of these he is spreading the word on how important this issue is. Our organisation has installed 17 filters for 12 weeks free of charge in a house where I measured very high levels of dirty electricity.
In this family the 8 year old boy is autistic, has asthma and takes epileptic fits, the second child has an autistic spectrum disorder and there is a question on the third child and the mother is pregnant with her fourth child. Page 77 of the book MORE SILENT FIELDS brings attention to a recent pilot research study showing higher rates of babies born with autism where the mother’s sleeping locations had high levels of radio-frequency radiation - dirty electricity. Mind you it is vital that we all sleep in an environment where dirty electricity has been removed.
I now have many people contacting me with the message that the book MORE SILENT FIELDS has been an invaluable gift to them, with one man giving testimony that after installing the filters to remove the dirty electricity he now has less ‘internal stress’ and can eat food he is ‘allergic to’ without the rash appearing on his skin - all of this within 10 days. Many are reporting better sleeping and people are reporting dreaming for the first time in years which is particularly important as this is when REM sleep occurs, important for healing the body while we sleep.
I learn more each day on this issue and the STETZERiZER meter and filters. Normally an electrical engineer uses a $6500 fluke scope meter to measure dirty electricity and has to interpret a graph. In using the STETZERiZER meter which retails for $160 you simply insert it into the electrical socket in your home or workplace and it gives you a number which should not be over 30. This technology is truly incredible and makes it very easy for the public to measure dirty electricity levels in their personal environments. Installing enough filters at $50 each removes the dirty electricity from the building sending it back to the grid, also creating a barrier around your home and stopping the dirty electricity that is being supplied to us from coming into our homes.
This is the way of the future to help in the prevention of serious disease and cancer. Kazakhstan mandated to protect its citizens way back in 2003 and when people ask why Kazakhstan of all places, I advise them that these are the scientists who created the Russian space and nuclear weapons programs. These are the people who have been actively studying artificial electromagnetic radiation for decades and who truly understand the harmful effects of dirty electricity and the importance of prevention. Prevention is paramount.
Sales of my second book MORE SILENT FIELDS Cancer and the Dirty Electricity Plague The Missing Link have exceeded my publisher’s expectations. My publisher has commissioned a second printing which is a sign that the hard work of the past 11 years on this issue has been worth the many challenges it has bought into my life. Even though I have yet to promote both of my books in the mainstream media due to the time constraints of helping many seriously unwell individuals with their health challenges and workplace issues, the medium of ‘word of mouth’ has managed to travel around the planet.
One example is a woman visiting from Peru who was given the book while visiting Tasmania. This woman gave it to a man in Victoria who contacted me stating it was an invaluable gift and he now knows why he has been sick for so many years. He is now free of his health challenge after installing the filters. To help even one person live a better life or even save a life, which I have been advised we have (brain tumour) is truly wonderful.
I wish to thank you for your support on the launching on my books.
Donna “... the 20th century epidemic of the so called diseases of civilization including cardiovascular disease, cancer and diabetes and suicide was caused by electrification not by lifestyle. A large proportion of these diseases may therefore be preventable.” 2009 Samuel Milham MD MPH Washington State Department of Health, Olympia, WA, USA Historical evidence that electrification caused the 20th century epidemic of diseases of civilization. AIM: 50 GS units workplaces 30 GS units homes
If document or video about dirty electricity is in the making, I hope it would also contain comment from:
- John Bedini, that live around big device utilizing transient voltage and with experience trying to replicate Royal Rife high frequency healing device.
- Peter Lindemann, that write some article about the benefit of special electronic device for health, either by direct wiring to the body or by radiation.
You need to put bio feedback meters to prove this. Magna and Donner use biofeedback METERING its the real tell tale, HOW DOES YOUR BODY READ? We are electromagnetic entities, every thing electromagnetically can be shown to interface with us internally through biofeedback metering. THE GS FILTERS SHOULD BE MANDATORY TO SHOW US WHATS GOING ON
I wonder how home-made filters perform, i am looking to build some soon for my home.
Ash, you have access to a device that can measure this dirty electricity ?
Hi digitz yes we did and we used them in the filming(editing the video in next 2 weeks), above in my post Donner fisher letter she talks about them
I learn more each day on this issue and the STETZERiZER meter and filters. Normally an electrical engineer uses a $6500 fluke scope meter to measure dirty electricity and has to interpret a graph. In using the STETZERiZER meter which retails for $160 you simply insert it into the electrical socket in your home or workplace and it gives you a number which should not be over 30. This technology is truly incredible and makes it very easy for the public to measure dirty electricity levels in their personal environments. Installing enough filters at $50 each removes the dirty electricity from the building sending it back to the grid, also creating a barrier around your home and stopping the dirty electricity that is being supplied to us from coming into our homes.
You need to put bio feedback meters to prove this. Magna and Donner use biofeedback METERING its the real tell tale, HOW DOES YOUR BODY READ? We are electromagnetic entities, every thing electromagnetically can be shown to interface with us internally through biofeedback metering. THE GS FILTERS SHOULD BE MANDATORY TO SHOW US WHATS GOING ON
Ash
I don't have one. If you have time, see if your GEET, your rotoverter, your Bedini SSG, your Imhotep Fan SSG, or your radiant charger produce dangerous reading.
I have strong radiant charger (about 40 times more powerfull than Imhotep fan charger) in less than a meter in front of me running for 5 hours a day, 6 days a week for about half year now. What disease should I expect?
I wonder how home-made filters perform, i am looking to build some soon for my home.
Ash, you have access to a device that can measure this dirty electricity ?
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