Cop>17 Here's Why This Result Was Predicted

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Now we need to consider another point. Flame or fire is entirely 'quenched' in a vacuum. This is significant. If these flames are simply a collection of magnetic dipoles that have lost their 'orderliness' so to speak - in the field, then if they are placed in a vacuum or in some sort of chamber where 'ignitable' compounds or gases are omitted - then the flame literally 'burns out' and the fire is prevented.

To me this suggests that the binding fields of these magnetic dipoles only unravel to the extent that there is another medium to which they can progress. And as atoms and particles are the 'things' that are absent in a vacuum - I can safely conclude that they need to move towards atoms and molecules. Whatever the resulting 'amalgam' or dissassociated state of the particles in the 'flame' they will only move towards some 'housing' some area that - at it's least - has other atoms and molecules. And, in as much as fire is known to exaserbate the carbon dioxide content of our atmosphere then this, also at its least may be the 'housing' required by some of these particles from the 'flame'. In other words they move away from their first field and reconjoin in new fields creating new molecules of carbon dioxide, for example, again extraneous to the atoms - but allowing a balanced distribution of charge that somehow satisfies the valence condition of two or more otherwise disassociated atoms.

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In effect the fields move as fields to new areas where they can continue to influence the bound condition of aerosolate and particulate amalgams. But they do not move unless such new 'housing' is made available to them in their 'unravelling' processes. This suggests that these fields, albeit plastic, albeit able to move through space and in time to change their 'abodes' so to speak, albeit that their potential is to prefer change, else they would not move in the first instance - they are hide bound to one condition only. This is that there is first, a primary, or a critical condition - that there is an alternate amalgam to which they can transfer their fields. This also suggests that somehow, these fields are finite. If they are magnetic fields - and if they contain magnetic dipolar particles, then there is a fixed number of such disassociated magnetic fields that somehow belong to matter in a relationship that has with it a numerical consistency. I will get back to this point much later, and that only if it is required here. But it is a central consideration to this thesis.

In other words I am suggesting that in the initial formation of atoms, whether this is done inside the furnace of suns or in the chance accumulation of properties that are availabe in nebulae, or for whatever reason at all, these fields are extraneous to these atoms and yet are entirely responsible for the binding of atoms and then amalgams of atoms in some ratio that remains with that amalgam. And in the peeling away of the bound state of that amalgam - then too those fields are lost to that amalgam. It is unarguable that energy belongs to the atom. Equally it is unarguable that energy is required to bind an amalgam. I am simply proposing that this binding energy and its fields and its effects may have been overlooked by mainstream. It does not contradict known physical effects. It simply offers an alternate explanation.

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There's very little that is drier than logic. It gets tedious and repetitive and and essentially argumentative. So let me indulge for a brief moment in pure concept. Because that - at least - is captivating.

Here's what I'm pointing to. There's a great big universe which we share. It's shaped like a toroid and it is made up of these huge strings of little magnets. Every part of that entire structure is apparently without charge. Put your finger anywhere in that space and even assuming your finger was as small as a magnetic dipole - you'd never get a shock from static charge. Each part of that entire field is precisely and equally charged and it's neutral. And it's all spinning in one direction. And it's spinning so fast that we can't even see the structure from which the field is made. Just a perfectly smooth background - like a cloth behind the tapestry of the night sky - studded with an uncountable number of stars and galaxies and nebulae - with stray comets veering through at unpredictable trajectories and chance encounters of galaxies and generating ever more variations of yet more galaxies or nebulae.

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Then - given time and enough 'recombining' whole stars spin away from that nebula together with the star's planets. These planets describe an orbit around the star in some way that is similar to electrons orbiting their nucleus. It suggests that somehow the planets belong to the star in the same way that the electrons belong to the atom. But the atomic nature of the planets are not the same as the star. They are gross amalgams of complex atoms that have been forged? No one know where nor how. Other stars? Greater applied energies? Exploding stars or whole galaxies catapulted together at pace? Perhaps it needs nothing more than the force of invisible energy levels belonging to the sun in the same way that atoms have distinct energy levels. These questions are still to be answered.

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Then the miracle of life on one of the planets where the intelligence is just enough to look at all this matter and all its variations to wonder at the 'cause'. And then, the slow unfolding of certain truths. Perhaps these vast stellar and planetary and galaxial amalgams have, hidden in its formation, the existence of yet another inivisible field of magnets - magnetic dipoles - that is separate from that great universal toroid and belongs to each amalgam in some fixed numerical ratio that stays with that amalgam. Small isolated fields that spin together ensuring a balanced charge throughout the atoms in an amalgam, but yet is separate from the atomic structure? Something outside the atom itself. It would be a field of invisible energy and it would be evident in gravitational lensing.

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This invisible matter, this 'dark energy' or 'dark matter' as it is known is not my discovery. It's a requirement in terms of classical physics. Galaxies simply do not have enough matter to account for the fact that they do not unravel. There is some evidiential requirement for more matter to be extant here than is evident from what can be seen and measured. This is widely attributed to dark matter - some particle that has, heretofore escaped notice. It needs must be there and it needs must fall outside any classical modelling of known particles.

What I am proposing is that this 'dark matter' is simply these fields of particles that bind our galaxies and I am also proposing that in exactly the same way that they bind our star structures - it also binds all amalgams. And all that I am proposing is that it is a particle that only manifests when it is out of the field. Then it can be seen as a spark or as voltage imbalance. And as an immediate consequence to this liberation of the magnetic dipole from the field, it also then it enables the transfer of those fields to some other form which transfer can be effected through space and in time. It literally transfers itself to other material in the form of energy. And this is the 'thing' that we exploit when we expose these fields to our dimensions from the hidden fields of it's normal 'habitat' so to speak.

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And, albeit a 'small' departure from mainstream thinking - it is, nonetheless, a pretty radical departure. I have proposed this particle and I've presumed to call it a zipon. But feel free to call it or name it anything you want. My own choice was simply because it points to Zero point energy and because I also propose that it 'zips' matter or atoms, together or apart. I never needed to go beyond the magnetic field and have found correspondence to this 'charged' background and to gravity and the strong nuclear force. But that needs must belong to a later exercise. For now I've undertaken to explain why the field model points to the need for extra energy in a simple switching circuit. And I think I've stressed your tolerance and attention for long enough with this 'background' information. Apologies again if it seems extraneous to the point. In fact it's just intended to give some simple justification, but with the use of generalities that I am sure will make all purists wince. In my defense, it's the briefest description I could manage.

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Thanks . It will take time to reread all again, in the mean time here is what I want to suggest.

The reason I mention Correa's is because I think they have good theory about what actually being utilize in your circuit. Even though they utilize pulse anomalous glow discharge, I think it is essentially the same as disrupting current in a coil. They do delicate control on voltage to allow half rectifying arc half don't so it pulse the electrode. Kind of self oscillated coil.

They can measure something that can only be detected with electroscope.

The reason I post their work beacuse I see corelation with COP>17 device. If we intend to argue with establish science, we need to tell not just what can cause the effect, but also the process that allow them to happen.


Correa's mention that tesla experiment produce not just monopolar electricity but it also produce ambipolar (neutral). On their experiment, the ambipolar can produce 4X input. They define ambipolar as massfree non electric non electromagnetic non magnetic non gravitic.



Acoording to what I learn, the heat produced in COP>17 device is caused by secondary effect of ambipolar production caused by interaction with metal. This ambipolar production may affect thing further away. The reaction will depend to the metal type which can be heat or light. The relevant quote is:

Yet, its 'electrostatic field' charges most metallic (ungrounded) surfaces positively.
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Light, and also heat, are therefore indirect effects of Tesla waves, mere secondary emissions from metallic bodies exposed to Tesla radiation.
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There is neither an electrostatic DC field nor an AC electromagnetic field (let alone an ionizing one), and we demonstrate this fact experimentally; both electrostatic and photonic fields are secondary effects resulting from the interaction of metallic matter with resonant 'electric' and 'magnetic' waves, such that the superimposition of these waves is subsequently resolved either to charge that matter or to induce it to emit light and heat.
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What we discovered experimentally - and this is presented in Volume 2 of Experimental Aetherometry - is that we can employ induction coils to produce both types of massfree electric radiation. More specifically, if Tesla coils are operated within certain specific parameters of potential and frequency, they function as exact analogs of the solar ambipolar massfree radiation mode. This is to say they output ambipolar radiant energy within the orgone segment of the massfree electric spectrum. It is then possible to use this as a tool to demonstrate the difference between what is 'orgone energy' as electrical massfree energy and what is the nonelectric 'orgone effect' of 'latent heat'.

About getting overunity:

It is at this point of the process that Reich’s discovery of Factor Y - one that we show in the present book to also have been anticipated by Tesla - and our rediscovery of its circuitry and functions, enters into the story. For Factor Y is the function of a complex superimposition. It is not simply about how ambipolar radiation can couple kinetic energy to monopolar charges - ie how from unipolar electricity we can extract the duality of ordinary electricity, how from one (ambipolar) one gets two (monopolar), as a principle of bifurcation, the way the stem relates to the arms in a ‘Y’ figure as a principle of arborescence. As we came to find out, and as we detail in these pages, it is a also a principle of the superimposition of two ambipolar fluxes, and of electric and nonelectric forms of mass-free energy. One superimposes the unipolar signal of ambipolar radiation transmitted across the atmosphere (Y) with the unipolar signal of ambipolar radiation transmitted across the ground (X), while superimposing each with the latent heat that is mobilized from the media of the transmission into production of further ambipolar radiation (a bit like the cascade of a reaction of multiplication

- as also happens in a chain reaction or a free-radical reaction); and then one sorts or resolves a superimposed flux of monopolar electric charges, positive and negative, a flux of ordinary electricity, from the superimposition of two fluxes of ambipolar electricity, superimposed between themselves and with distinct fluxes of latent heat from the environment. In fact, the principle of inductive magnification resides in the mobilization of the latent heat of an environment subject to ambipolar transmission under conditions of its magnification.

Ambipolar can be measured with electroscope. Which I think is an important tool to know what is going on. Contrary to common knowledge, Correa's believe that what raise the gold leave is not electrostatic.

Basic experiments demonstrate that, for any set deflection angle of the electroscope leaf from the vertical under atmospheric conditions, the work performed against gravity by a 'charge gas' trapped in a conductor is neither predictable from current electrostatic or gravitational theory, nor equivalent to the electric energy calculated or measured oscilloscopically as being required to charge the said electroscope to the set and calibrated deflection. Furthermore, the results suggest that, quite independently from the mechanism of charge cancellation by recombination with ions of opposite polarity, electroscopic leakage rates depend upon the rate of regeneration of the kinetic energy of the trapped charges performing both electric and antigravitational work, as sourced upon hidden variable(s) in the local medium. We found therefore that, in order for the electric work of repulsion performed by charge against charge to be conserved, the work performed by charge against local gravity must be constantly supplied by regeneration of the kinetic energy of the trapped charges from the surrounding medium.

About magnet:
Abstracts - Experimental Aetherometry, 2 Vol. 2B

After differentiating between the H and B functions for massfree and massbound charges, we are led to conclude that whereas H-1 is the magnetic wavelength of massfree waves in "a vacuum", 2/B is the magnetic wavelength of the same waves in a "material medium". For electronic charges in a material medium, the magnetic wavelength is then simply a function of the radial magnetic vector r:

Dark matter:

Mass can be - and, in fact, is - constantly created from the superimposition of massfree energy. And along with mass, a basic graviton is also created. Conservation of that mass-energy requires conservation of that graviton - and this is, effectively, the physical basis for the identity of inertial and gravitational masses (it is a little more complex, in fact, because the graviton is really an impulse with a definite rate, and it is the unit impulse that is actually conserved by a constant flux of massfree energy). For mass-energy and graviton energy to be conserved, the Dark Massfree Energy must remain in a continual state of superimposition. Unwind the mass-energy, or unwind the graviton, and the superimposed units of Dark Energy are released. The balance, then, between Dark Energy and Matter is a constitutive one, constitutive of both Matter and its gravitational properties. We have experimentally demonstrated the energy, momentum and wave characteristics of these gravitons, as well as determined the corresponding characteristics for those units of Dark Massfree Energy (report in preparation).

This complement my understanding of dark mater based from "occult chemistry". It is nice to see a relation between science from the eye of aura reading community and from the eye of Tesla-Reich experimenter.


Correa's have been commented by Jamed Demeo to be far advance in Reich technology than anyone else.

Many document need to be purchased so unfortunately I can not give more detail

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Hi Suchayo,

I simply cannot understand this reference of yours. The terms are not defined.

These are some of the phrases that entirely defeat me and - I'm reasonably certain - would confuse any half way reasonable and logical person. Ambipolar radiation - mass free energy - unipolar superimpostion of ambipolar radiation? inductive magnification...residing in... the mobilization of the latent heat??? What in heavens name is a photonic field? What is solar ambipolar massfree radiation mode? To me, with respect, this is just an embarrassing muddle of hype and jargon that advances nothing whatsoever. I'm surprised that you can understand it at all, let alone endorse it.

So. I have no idea if my thesis corresponds to correa's. I have no idea what arguments his thesis is advancing. It seems that all reference to ambipolar anything at all was first advanced by correa - so I would need to study it in context. Here I'm entirely baffled.

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Finally I'm on the electromagnetic interaction. And none too soon.

Firstly I need to return to that argument about boundary constraints. You recall that I proposed a machine that propels stones. The point to this analogy is that beyond a certain weight mass the machine will either not be able to detect the stone - being too small. Or it will not be able to lift the stone - being too big. Therefore, too big or too small and it's out of range of the machine. I've called this, very simply, a 'boundary constraint'. What the model proposes is that the zipons are of a size and a velocity in a field that they simply cannot interact with stable particles.

In point of fact there is an interactive moment with particles but it's not relevant to the electromagnetic interaction here - which is only concerned with current flow. What the model proposes is that the binding zipon fields interact - not with the atom's particles - but with the energy levels of atoms. And this possibly needs to be explained more fully.

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So. I have no idea if my thesis corresponds to correa's. I have no idea what arguments his thesis is advancing. It seems that all reference to ambipolar anything at all was first advanced by correa - so I would need to study it in context. Here I'm entirely baffled.

I see some similarity of your thesis with them so I reference it. If you interchange massfree with zipon you will see similarity. In Correa's theory, zipon do not have mass, where zipon charge can not be measured the same way as normal electricity. Just like yours, zipon are said to be electrically neutral or ambipolar in their term. energy that is stored by dark matter is called latent energy or latent heat.

Zipon do not have mass because there is an excess of energy without the addition of mass.

Massfree to massbound is similar to zipon converting to atom. Where energy may be captured or released during converting. That energy equation is also include the calculation of energy received or send to zipon feld.

They are suggesting that switched coil can be release Orgone or deadly orgone depend on frequency and voltage.


No need to reference Correa's work in your thesis. While it give some new idea to utilize or detect the excess energy, I won't be suggesting correa's idea anymore since it do give unnecessary distraction. I will focus more on suggestion idea to your thesis.


I have a couple of suggestion for the thesis:
To avoid repeating the same mistakes the conventional science does, the theory have to take acount all kind of phenomena. Current science is limited because only take acount of closed circuit and do not consider the measurement of open circuit.

I suggest to extend your theory to explain other experiment that produce excess heat, for example cold fusion and Dr Robert Adams motor. Also on common occurence of reaction around us like electrolysis, fuel cell or chemical reaction between two molecule or atom.

Here's the rule. The force of the throw is constant. And there are no extraneous conditions of air resistance or wind or anything at all. It throws these stones inside a vacuum. That means, that all things being equal, then the bigger the stone the shorter the distance thrown. And conversely, the smaller the stone the further the distance thrown. That's logical.

You have some force that is in inverse proportion with size, you should mention it.

What has also occurred to me is that fire - of itself - does nothing to change the properties of the atom. Only nuclear fission or fusion alters the atom. Otherwise the atom remains inviolate. A kind of closed system within a prescribed range of variants relating to its ionised state. Fire does not change the atom. Whatever chemistry comes into play - as proposed by classicists - the simple fact is that the atom remains.

Please elaborate "does not change atom", relate this to chemical reaction between molecule that produce explosion as example. Since current science believe that some force can ionize atom.

It is unarguable that energy belongs to the atom.

You need to elaborate this since you mention at first that energy is extranous of atom:

They are extraneous to the atom itself and only interact with the atomic energy levels that, in turn, comprise independent fields of the same fundamental particle.

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If you interchange massfree with zipon you will see similarity.

The zipon is proposed to have properties of mass. This mass is variable. Inside a balanced field it's mass or volume is reduced by virtue of its velocity and its calorific properties. The field is balanced - or uncharged. But the zipons inside the field are charged, having a fixed direction in space. That 'spin' direction is it's justification or orbit. When the field is disturbed, then the zipon loses it's orbital velocity, increases its properties of heat, and increases it's mass or volume. Then only is it measurable as it is then visible. In other words it can be detected by photons. This big, slow, hot state is a transitional phase as it moves through space towards another field where it can again bind other forms of matter - or atoms. Always it has properties of mass. That mass is always variable. And the number of zipons associated with any amalgam is fixed - or finite.

In Correa's theory, zipon do not have mass, where zipon charge can not be measured the same way as normal electricity. Just like yours, zipon are said to be electrically neutral or ambipolar in their term. energy that is stored by dark matter is called latent energy or latent heat.

Never is the zipon without charge. Always it has some fixed direction in space that determines the charge. Only the field is neutral. This charge property is a natural extension of an 'orbit' provided only that the orbit has a justification or 'spin' direction. That 'spin' or justification is retained in all transitional phases. These are those phases when the field is disturbed. This charge 'potential' is required - else there is the potential that a zipon can vary its dipolar properties of north and south or off and on. The proposal is that these essential polar values or combined monopolar properties or components are fixed and unchangable. A north is always north and a south is always south. They cannot simply 'swap' places, or interchange these fixed values.

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Zipon do not have mass because there is an excess of energy without the addition of mass.

I have no quarrel with Einstein's E=mc>2. It is just that m and c are variables relating to the transitional phase of zipons outside the field. Inside the field they have already been measured through the art of gravitational lensing. They have also been exposed through experiments related to the Casimir Effect. Outside the field they have been confused with voltage and fire - both.

Massfree to massbound is similar to zipon converting to atom. Where energy may be captured or released during converting. That energy equation is also include the calculation of energy received or send to zipon feld.

Suchayo, I'm proposing that these zipons ARE energy. They are the things that are transferred through space that induce kinetic or caloric energies to matter - the term 'matter' here intended to include atoms and their amalgams.

They are suggesting that switched coil can be release Orgone or deadly orgone depend on frequency and voltage.

I agree that a switching circuit is one way to 'reach' these fields, simply because it is a method by which one can imbalance the field. That way they reverse their inherently smooth field properties to become 'slow, hot big'. But 'deadly orgone?' No more deadly than 'fire' 'heat' or 'electricity'.

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I have a couple of suggestion for the thesis:
To avoid repeating the same mistakes the conventional science does, the theory have to take acount all kind of phenomena. Current science is limited because only take acount of closed circuit and do not consider the measurement of open circuit.

I hear you.

I suggest to extend your theory to explain other experiment that produce excess heat, for example cold fusion and Dr Robert Adams motor. Also on common occurence of reaction around us like electrolysis, fuel cell or chemical reaction between two molecule or atom.

I cannot comment on motors as I sincerely believe that motors simply speak to an equivalence in energy transfer. I am not sure that this has been conclusively proven. I cannot comment on cold fusion as I have not studied this. All I can comment on is heat and the electromagnetic interactions as measured on an electric circuit.

You have some force that is in inverse proportion with size, you should mention it.

I believe I have done so - repeatedly.

You need to elaborate this since you mention at first that energy is extranous of atom:

Again, there is a classical understanding that energy is related to the mass of an atom. What I am proposing is that energy is related to the binding of those atoms as well. They are interrelated but they have distinct and varied properties. The atom is a closed system within the variations of its ionised state. This relates to its energy levels. The proposal is that the zipon fields interact with these energy levels directly in order to balance the amalgams. I see now that I need to explain this better. Thanks Suchayo.

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Guys, I have intended to write this as a simple exercise to advance some conceptual understanding of current flow as per the thesis. One thing is clearly evident. If Suchayo has not understood this, then I'm not sure who has. I'm going to make the electromagnetic interaction as 'clear' and as simple as I possibly can. That because this is the 'thing' that I need to promote. Some time back Aaron proposed that I write this up so that your average high school student could understand it. I thought I had. But clearly not yet. I'm therefore entirely revising my description of current flow. Hopefully I will make it clearer. I'll use diagrams - all over the place. But I can only post diagrams on youtube. So bear with me. I can only try. No guarantees that I'll manage it.