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  • Suchayo - apologies for not getting back to you. I've been really tied up. I'm going to read through more about Aspden. It's beginning to look like there's much more correspondence than I assumed. I'll get back here soon - hopefully by tomorrow at the latest.

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    • Ok. You can download his book at ASPDEN PHYSICS WEB SITE, and read the intro at AetherScience.org index. I currently reading "Physics Without Einstein".

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      • Suchayo - thanks for the link. I see now that Aspden was simply pointing to the need for aether to justify the remarkable ratios he managed to reconcile regarding not only hydrogen but deuterium. Funny he never touched on Tritium. My own model requires the entire periodic table to be structured from these three bases. But he sees that field as a complex cubic lattice structure. And, from what I've read, he nowhere proposes that the aether has a particle let alone that it manifests in these our dimensions as well as in the quantum background as he refers to it. Does he propose this?

        I feel so sorry for the guy. Clearly a visionary with extraordinary skills and yet entirely unrecognised. If he's still alive he's now 84 or thereby. You must, however, never confuse any of my theories with his. Not only is he really well trained - he's also clearly brilliant. I have NOTHING to contribute to new science other than some very basic fundamental concepts relating to this aetheric particle. It's never been evaluated in terms of the context that I propose. But I'm only pointing at a skeleton. It's just that. A pile of bones. But, - put the muscles to those bones - and you'll get a working model of the universe. I am entirely precluded from putting on those muscles. And that's what's needed. Which also means that I will never have anything but a partial theory. It WILL - without a question of a doubt - be replaced by someone's theory that will finally put the required mathematics to it. So. I'm not looking for vindication nor recognition. I'd be very happy to have my name entirely disappear from history. But not those bones. Not that skeleton. Aspden is looking for recognition. I really see it as my function in this exercise to point. And then the really clever guys will piece it together. And while it's a really good thing that he advances aetheric concepts - I'm not sure that he's on track with my own concepts.

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        • And for any readers here - please understand this. I'm not sure if any of you have read a book called 'fooled by randomness'. In a way - I believe that that's what has misled our mainstream scientists. It's awfully presumptuous to claim this. The truth is that when one sees such variety to matter and such predictability of it's reaction to the forces - the questions of correspondence start teasing the mind. My own facility is with patterns. I have always been able to relate logic to this. Indeed it's acknowledged that patterns have their innate logic and there are those mathematicians who use geometry for their explanations rather than math.

          So. That's how I see things. In patterns. In other words I found a pattern that would behave predictably at the small and large scale provided only that its essense is particlulate and that it is bipolar rather than neutral. I found it in a magnetic force and found that I needed nothing else. I therefore proposed that this is primary force and ALL the other forces, related to the strong, weak, electromagnetic and gravity forces are all varying expressions of this one fundamental THING. Very seductive. But I'm speaking patterns only and I relate that to known physical and measurable phenomena. Others seek a pattern FROM that variety. I've sought to relate or apply the pattern TO that variety. I've started from the pattern. And it produces a remarkable correspondence - is all.
          Last edited by witsend; 03-04-2010, 04:57 AM.

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          • But in my defense I would also add this. Anyone can follow a pattern. Once you have that in your head you also will have an increased understanding. Another heartfelt theme is my mission to advance this 'conceptual' understanding of physics. The art of science has become so complex and specialised that the average layman throws his hands up in despair. Never to be finally understood. My hope is that with some simple fundamental concepts then all will be understood. And this is important. Else we leave all questions of science to be resolved by our science experts. And they've not shown themselves to be entirely responsible in this regard. Certainly they have, historically - advanced aspects of science on the basis of a 'creed' rather than on the basis of understanding. Very offensive - if you ask me. And while we give them total authority to comment - then we also forfeit our rights to interfere with those comments. I am just so anxious to assure you all that science is essentially logical and essentially simple. And access to logic is our birthright. God would surely not have given us this together with our curiosity if we were meant to ignore its development. In any event that's my take.

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            • Originally posted by witsend View Post
              You must, however, never confuse any of my theories with his.
              Ok. I hope your skeleton knowledge can benefit everyone.

              I hope you can summarize your theory to atleast answer this thread topic, why you can predict it. And the special condition required for the high heat anomalous to occur according to your theory. Why it only observed on special transistor at special configuration at special dutycycle and frequency, etc.

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              • Suchayo? I really thought I'd explained the 'current flow'. Has this entirely eluded you? I'm sure not. You seem to have a better grasp of this than anyone. Let me see if I can give you a synopsis. In fact - let me rather start with the two accounts written in that paper. Then I'll see if I can do a summary as you asked. This is straight from the introduction to the paper.

                The following tests were designed to evaluate a thesis that predicted anomalous heat signatures on an inductive resistor placed in series with a switching circuit. The thesis is developed from a non classical magnetic field model but a full description of this falls outside the scope of this submission. What is pertinent here is some overview of that thesis as it applies to current flow. The following paragraph is intended as a broad brushstroke description of this and is further clarified as described in the Appendix I.

                The model proposes that charge has the property of mass with the material properties of velocities and thermal capacities associated with that mass. These particles do not conform to the standard model and remain hidden within three dimensional solid or liquid objects or amalgams. They are extraneous to the atom itself and only interact with the atomic energy levels that, in turn, comprise independent fields of the same fundamental particle. These extraneous fields are responsible for the bound condition of the amalgam. This interaction between the fields and the atoms’ energy levels results in a balanced distribution of charge throughout the amalgam.

                Measurable voltage reflects a transitional state of imbalance throughout these binding fields that, subject to circuit conditions, then move that charge through available conductive and inductive paths to reestablish a charge balance. In effect the circuit components that enable the flow of charge from a supply source are, themselves able to generate a flow of current depending on the strength of that applied potential difference and the material properties of the circuit components. Therefore both inductive and conductive circuit components have a potential to generate current flow in line with Inductive Laws.

                Classical assumption requires an equivalence in the transfer of electric energy based as it is on the concept of a single supply source. Therefore voltage measured away from the supply on circuit components is seen to be stored energy delivered during closed circuit conditions of a switching cycle. The distinction is drawn that if indeed, the circuit components are themselves able to generate a current flow from potential gradients, then under open circuit conditions, that energy may be added to the sum of the energy on the circuit thereby exceeding the limit of energy available from the supply. Therefore if more energy is measured to be dissipated at a load than is delivered by the supply, then that evidence will be consistent with this thesis. The experimental evidence does indeed, conform to this prediction.
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                • And this was written by Harvey and is appended to that paper. This intended to explain this for you engineers.

                  The following exercise is intended as a broad brushstroke description of the non classical properties of current flow that was tested in the experiment described herein.

                  The classical approach to current flow recognizes that charge motion is predominately that of electric charge. The aspect of this thesis that is considered appropriate to this submission relates to current flow. It proposes that current flow comprises the motion of magnetic charge which, in turn comprises elementary magnetic dipolar particles. In classical terms, these particles would align with Faraday’s Lines of Force and therefore the number of lines that exist through a particular real or imaginary surface, would still be represented as magnetic flux while the particles themselves, in distribution along those lines, represent the magnetic field.

                  It is proposed that these fields are extraneous to the atomic structure of matter and are thought to play a critical part in binding atoms and molecules into gross identifiable matter. Further, the particles obey an immutable imperative to move towards a condition of balance or zero net magnetic charge. Given a source material with an ionized charge imbalance which is measured as a potential difference, and given a closed circuit electromagnetic material path, these particles will return to the source material with the necessary charge to neutralize that imbalance.

                  Typical electronic circuits provide such material paths through the circuit components of which they are made which includes all conductors. During the passage of current flow through such closed circuitry it is proposed that the charge imbalance is transferred to those circuit components. The individual imbalances in each component and each conductor then seek balance according to that immutable imperative. In typical electronic circuitry, each component that has been ‘charged’ by this transfer, will either neutralize the charge internally, or influence a secondary current flow in anti-phase or opposite polarity to the first cycle.

                  While this is substantially in line with classical assumption as it relates to the transfer of charge, the distinction is drawn that the energy that is then transferred to such electromagnetic components, is able to regenerate a secondary cycle of current flow in line with electromagnetic laws. This energy is then not limited to the quotient of stored energy delivered during the first cycle and as presumed by classical theory. Instead it is dependent on the circuit component’s material characteristics and the means by which those materials balance a charge put upon them. Therefore there is a real energy potential in the secondary cycle which would reflect in a measured improvement to the performance coefficient of the circuit arrangement. This enhanced performance coefficient may be at the expense of the bonding of the material in the circuit components. In a worst case condition, this energy may be released as is observed in an exploding wire that is put under extreme charge conditions due to excessive current flow. In a best case condition, the energy is released gradually over time and results in fatigue to those components. This paper addresses an application of the gradual release.
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                  • Current flow is induced from energy at the source. This takes the form of strings of magnetic dipoles that move through circuit components. It takes the current through the circuit components to return the fields to that source but at the negative terminal and with an alternate spin. This then balances the experienced imbalance that induced that current flow. Then open the switch. The battery supply source cannot deliver any more current. The only potential difference on the circuit is now at the load resistor. It is experienced massive imbalance. It's fields have unravelled from their bound condition. Half of these binding fields are outside the material of the resistor. The remaining half are unravelling from the small cold fast condition to a big hot slow condition. It's beginning to get hot. Those fields outside the resistor - they fall back into the resistor and they 'kick out' those fields that came from the battery supply source. Then they find a path back to their own supply source through the battery, through the intrinsic body diode of the MOSFET - and then back to their own 'negative terminal equivalent' which is the other side of the resistor. When they move back through the battery they also recharge that charge that the battery discharged during the 'closed' condition of the switch. But they no sooner get there than the swich again closes. And the cycle is repeated.

                    Suchayo? Please let me know where this eludes you? I really cannot continue until this is reasonably clear. And if it's not clear the fault is mine. I need to explain this that you can fully understand it. It's easy. Just think of that current as strings or fields of magnets that go through the circuit material. They go clockwise from the battery. This discharges the battery. Or they go anticlockwise from the load resistor. This recharges the battery.

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                    • Thanks, are you implying that any switching transistor in series with any resistor capable of producing COP>17?

                      In other word, I would be able to get COP>17 with 100ohm 5 watt resistor with 2N3055 triggered with 555?

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                      • Originally posted by sucahyo View Post
                        Thanks, are you implying that any switching transistor in series with any resistor capable of producing COP>17?

                        In other word, I would be able to get COP>17 with 100ohm 5 watt resistor with 2N3055 triggered with 555?
                        Ok. I get it. I mean I think I'm seeing what you're asking. The 'trick' is to get the required mass in the material of the resistor to ensure that there's enough 'material' or enough 'fields' extruded to 'counter' the energy from the battery. With the required 'strengths' and at the required speeds, then the two fields work against each other - clockwise - then anti clockwise - so that they are neither of them fully satisfied. Discharge from the battery is always recharged. And the 'unravelling' of the broken strings in the resistor remain 'unravelled'. That's definitely a function of the switch and of the timing in the switch. And the mass of these extruded fields that generate the counter current flow? That's a function of the width of the resistive wire. Please check your messages.

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                        • Ok, thanks. I think you should explain the trick as thouroughly as the other explanation. Otherwise people who read the theory do not see the connection because the theory is too general.
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                          • Guys, I've been working on this analogy. It may help. Let me know if this still needs clarification. And I'll get back to your questions later this morning Suchayo. Sorry for neglecting this thread.

                            So here's what I see happening. Man A has too many blue cannon balls in his house. He wants more red. If he can push those cannon balls around an alley he can organise it that they come back red. So he does just that. He finds a path - pushes the cannon balls through that path and they eventually roll around back to his own house and they're now painted red. He's actually looking for a precise balance of blue and red. He keeps pushing until he gets this.

                            But he does this with a certain amount of subterfuge. His path (circuit copper wiring) is also full of blue and red cannon balls - equally dispersed. So his own blue cannon balls simply knock the circuit's blue cannon balls out of his path. Man A is definitely the stronger. He does this replacement so quickly that no-one really notices a difference. Except that where he's kicked them out - those blue cannon balls just stay in the general area. Then as these cannon balls keep rolling they eventually reach another home where there are also only blue cannon balls - this being the resistor. Here through happenstance is a home that has the same problem. Just way too much blue. This belongs to Man B. And Man B can do nothing much to change that condition because they're glued in place. But that glue is absolutely no match for Man A. He kicks out as much blue as he needs and continues to forge on through that house. Those cannon balls that have been expelled from Man B's house also simply 'hang around' outside the house. And then Man A gets back on path, and eventually he simply opens his own back door and lets his cannon balls back in. Now they're red.

                            The problem at Man B's house though is extreme. By kicking out all those blue cannon balls the balance of the cannon balls in his house - neatly arranged in lines, has been disturbed. They roll free of that glue and bump together and get hot and the hotter they get the bigger they get. The only orderly event is that path that Man A is using. Here the balls are still lined up in a path. And they're moving straight through his house. The rest of the glued balls are OFF THEIR MOORINGS - CHAOTIC. His house is on fire.

                            Then suddenly Man A finds his path is interrupted. No way - no path to force out any more of those blue. At the same time Man B sees a gap. If he's quick he could now send out his own blue cannon balls and provided he finds a path he too could change his blue to red - and then, with luck - he'll also get that happy balance of colour. He finds the path by borrowing the same path that Man A used. But he needs to send his balls in the opposite direction. So. His balls come back into that same path, that same channel. And right now Man B is now definitely the stronger. He's at least as strong as Man A. So he can send his cannon balls rolling with the same force that first kicked them out of contention. They race through the path - making very little difference to the red and blue balls in the path - in that circuit wire. But then the balls come to Man A's house. Unfortunately Man A immediately sees that his preferred colour scheme is now lost. Blue now is again dominant. Man B is still in the ascendency. He keeps going. Still the same path until he finds a gate (MOSFET's body diode). He makes a small detour here through this new path and then his cannon balls roll on until they get back to his own home. Back to the far side of the resistor. And they're now the right colour. They're red. He's slowly establishing that preferred colour theme.

                            But before he can quite change that colour back - rearrange those balls that are off their moorings, Man A finds his path again. Now Man A is again the stronger. And the cycle is repeated.

                            I've never tried this analogy before. Let me know if it works. The point is that Man B needs to reverse the flow. And by so doing - by going back through the battery - Man A's home, he recharges that supply. Mainstream cannot argue a gain. What they see as 'stored energy' in the resistor - is definitely strong enough to recharge the battery. This is what our measurements prove. Therein is the gain. The heat signatures at the load are inevitably greater than the sum of the energy discharged from the supply. This goes to the gullet of the argument with mainstream concepts.


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                            • Originally posted by witsend View Post
                              So here's what I see happening. Man A has too many blue cannon balls in his house. He wants more red.
                              What is the difference between read and blue?

                              Another reference from Harold Aspden book, about mass increasing with speed is not Einstein discovery. The important point is mass has relation with electric:
                              In that year 1904 a book entitled ‘The Recent Development of
                              Physical Science’ was published in its second edition. Its author was
                              W. C. D. Whetham, a Fellow of Trinity College, Cambridge and so
                              a close associate of J. J. Thomson, the discoverer of the electron,
                              ...
                              “The property of mass, the most fundamental property of matter for dynamical science, is explained by the electron theory as an effect of electricity in motion. Forasmuch as a moving charge carries its lines of electric force with it, it possesses something analogous to inertia in virtue of its motion. The quantitative value of this effect has been calculated by Thomson, Heaviside and Searle. Definite experimental evidence has been given by Kaufmann, who finds that the ratio e/m of the charge to mass of the corpuscles ejected by radium diminishes as their velocity increases. The charge is almost certainly constant, and thus the mass must increase with velocity. Theory shows that, for a slowly moving corpuscle, the electric inertia outside a small sphere of radius a, surrounding the electrified particle, does not depend upon the velocity, and is measured by 2e^2/3a where e is the electric charge on the particle. But when the velocity of light is approached, the electric mass grows very rapidly; and, on the assumption that the whole of the mass is electrical, Thomson has calculated the ratio of the mass of the corpuscle moving with different speeds to the mass of a slowly moving corpuscle, and compared with the results of Kaufmann’s experiments.

                              In this remarkable manner has it been possible to obtain experimental confirmation of the theory that mass is an electrical phenomenon.”

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                              • Hi Suchayo,

                                The colours are meant to represent postive and negative charge. Golly. But the colour is possibly a bad analogy. I'm having endless trouble with youtube. A friend of mine is sorting it and it'll take until Monday. Then I should be up again and I'll see if I can post my diagrams.

                                The other point is this. Your reference is to particles, in this case the electron - are all within and comply to known 'standard models'. If they gain or lose mass as a consequence of velocity it is still within our measuring capabilities. And variation of mass in line with velocity is also required by Einstein - or by classicists - as they also propose that anything accelerating beyond light speed would also require an infinite mass.

                                What I'm proposing is a particle that in no way conforms to 'the standard model'.

                                1 In the first place the proposal is that the particle assembles itself in a pattern that ensures a smooth distribution of charge. This results in the orderly formation of fields of such particles. No known particles are able to assemble in a field. Not even the photon which - like the zipon - is neutral, or which has NO CHARGE. The proposal here is that the zipon decreases in mass as it increases in velocity unlike the proven evidence here that known particles within the standard model increase in mass as they increase in velocity.

                                2 Then. No known particles have a known caloric value. The zipon has. It is either hot or cold and that depends on its velocity being either slow or fast. And its velocity, in turn, depends on its mass (or as I mean the term here which references volume rather than mass). This determines whether it is big or small - respectively.

                                3 Then standard particles are not known to respond to gravity. Notwithstanding which - their weight mass can be inferred by evaluating it in large quantities. That's the particular genius of quantum mechanics. In terms of this reference they have literally also 'weighed' the photon which, under usual classical definitions - has no evident weight at all. The zipon has no weight mass whatsoever. Not in the field nor out of the field.

                                4 Standard particles that are also stable - the proton, electron, photon and the neutrino (which in my model is just a really energetic photon) are all manifest in our dimensions. The zipon is only manifest when it's field formation is broken.
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