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Current Flow According to the Zipon Thesis

I ask because previously you mention that when those zipon are inside the closed wire loop, the zipon in the acid bath neutralize when they complete the circle.

Zipon loop at magnetic field is eternal, but zipon at an electric path neutralize, why? Or are they different?

Ok. Batteries vary - one from another. Each manufacturer uses his own variety of trace elements in the electrodes to increase the plate's efficiencies. There's no hard and fast rule. But assuming that we are talking about your average lead acid battery - then the mix - very broadly, is plates of lead, lead dioxide with a mix of sulphuric acid used as an electrolyte. Now. The sulphur bonds with the lead, and systematically during discharge the electrolyte mixture turns to pure water as the sulphur is systematically leached out of the electrolyte mix.

The zipon thesis proposes that the bonding of those electrolytes - that sulphuric acid is managed by zipons. The atomic mix - the base - is acidic - indicating that it has an imbalanced valence condition in the atoms. Then those atoms have been further bonded into molecules which, in the case of sulphuric acid would be two hydrogen atoms to four sulphur atoms. The thesis proposes that the molecules are actually bonded by these extraneous fields of zipons. The acid state indicates an imbalanced valence condition. Therefore the bonding zipon fields share that same imbalance. There are too many 'like spins' in the bonding zipon fields. Just imagine this as fields all spinning clockwise. What's needed for balance is that half the fields spin anticlockwise. Zipons always move to generate a balance. That's an immutable imperative.

By separating from the molecular bond the zipons are able to move the sulphur atom towards the elctrode. This 'breaks' the symmetry of that molecular orbit. The zipons that belong to the sulphur, then attach the suphur atom to that lead. This forms another molecule - not sure what it is but may be lead sulphate or somesuch. You'll know. Now the hydrogen atoms are unbonded from the sulphur. But the hydrogen also has it's fields of binding zipons. These are released through the electrolyte in bubbles which gravitate towards the terminals of the battery. Now it needs to incorporate the hydrogen back into the mix as this is essentially trapped within the structure of the battery. Now the zipons break their symmetries - that bonding condition holding those hydrogen atoms - they line up head to toe at the postive terminal and simply move - lickety split - through the circuit - generating that current flow. They then represent at the negative terminal, re-enter the electrolyte base and rebond the hydrogen - this time with the water in the base, thereby forming hard water. Net result - a complete neutralisation of the previously acidic condition of the electrolyte.

Now reverse that current flow and the previously acidic condition is re-established. That reversal is organised by the introduction of new fields of potential energy - this time generated from the material of the resistor. Here the symmetries are broken that half the fields are routed anticlockwise through the circuit. This is reverse current flow. That reverse path also feeds through the battery. In its passage through the battery the previous condition is simply reversed and the sulphuric acid is reconstituded.

Does that make it clear. LOL. I live in hope here Suchayo.

[sucahyo]

Thank you, the explanation about zipon in current flow is clearer now.

However, that is not what I ask.

I mean zipon current flow VS zipon magnetic field:

Now the zipons break their symmetries - that bonding condition holding those hydrogen atoms - they line up head to toe at the postive terminal and simply move - lickety split - through the circuit - generating that current flow. They then represent at the negative terminal, re-enter the electrolyte base and rebond the hydrogen - this time with the water in the base, thereby forming hard water. Net result - a complete neutralisation of the previously acidic condition of the electrolyte.

Now. Imagine tiny little spherical magnets joined head to toe - making up each line or 'string'. Then close that string to form a circle. Then imagine more such lines beside that first line, and then more and more. And each 'line' is simply a line of little spherical magnets with a north at one end joined to a south at the other end. What you then have is a FIELD of tiny little spherical bar magnets. That is what I propose is a magnetic field.

If zipon in lead acid can break bonds with molecule and make the molecule change bonding, why zipon do not behave the same way in a magnet if it also bond the ferromagnetic molecule?

If zipon in lead acid neutralize the polarity, closing the loop of zipon flow in battery with copper reduce battery charge, why zipon in a magnet do not? magnetic field would not reduce if we closed loop it with iron.

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primary secondary and tertiary magnetic fields

Thank you, the explanation about zipon in current flow is clearer now.

WOW. PROGRESS. So nice to read that it's getting clearer.

I've always assumed that concepts were easier but I think perhaps I need to refer to actual physical 'events'. Maybe a mix of concept and known theories? Anyway. You've made my day if the understanding of this model is somehow getting advanced albeit in small steps.

However, that is not what I ask.

I mean zipon current flow VS zipon magnetic field:
If zipon in lead acid can break bonds with molecule and make the molecule change bonding, why zipon do not behave the same way in a magnet if it also bond the ferromagnetic molecule?

If zipon in lead acid neutralize the polarity, closing the loop of zipon flow in battery with copper reduce battery charge, why zipon in a magnet do not? magnetic field would not reduce if we closed loop it with iron.

OK. Let's see if I can explain this too. There are many forms of a magnetic field - but they all comprise 'zipons' and they all have the 'velocity' because their BEST charge balance is when they are in a field and in motion. Think of your average permanent bar magnet. But we have fields within fields.

Let's start with the universe. The model proposes that the entire universe is a HUGE toroidal magnetic field. That aether - that field - is an exquisitely balanced magnetic field stretching into distances that our minds can barely manage. And each string - or each necklace - is so long that it reaches around and definds the boundaries of space itself. And each string is so thin that it passes through matter without even noticing it. That's proposed as a PRIMARY MAGNETIC FIELD.

Now. Break one of those strings and those little particles tumble together into a nebula. They've lost their velocity and their field formation and they just become a jumble of little magnets. But having lost their 'fast cold small' field state they then move into a 'slow hot big' state. And they are as slow and hot and big as they were first fast and cold and small. This begs an inverse proportionate relationship between its heat, its velocity and its mass - each state being dependant on its intrinsic relation in a field or out of it. Now it is not a magnet field at all. It's just a jumble of magnetic dipoles that itself is invisible to the surrounding magnetic field of the universe.

But magnets being magnets - they need to get into some alignment. They still have that immutable imperative. They still want to find that balance. Slowly, over time they reformulate. First off they congregate into particles such as neutrinos, photons, electrons and finally, and more complex, into protons. Protons are an entirely closed system. They have their own magnetic field and in the creation of each proton an electron is formed so we have a really minature 'star system' with a nucleus and a 'planet' of sorts. That's the hydrogen atom. Then, and this is the point, the formation of the hydrogen atom also carries its own magnetic fields. That's what we know of as ATOMIC ENERGY LEVELS. These fields comprise a SECONDARY MAGNETIC FIELD. And these fields are characterised by being 'flat' or two dimensional having length and width - BUT NO BREADTH. Also of note is that it can sustain itself. Effectively it can resist the 'pressure' from the PRIMARY MAGNETIC FIELD and thereby retain its form or its identity away from the primary field. And also of note is that when and as that hydrogen atom becomes more complex, then those new protons and electrons and neutrons are extrapolated from these energy levels. In other words the zipons in the fields are systematically extracted from those energy levels to form new versions of that first hydrogen atom. The proposal therefore is that the number of zipons creating that first atom - is FIXED.

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tertiary magnetic fields are the source of current flow

Now. As many hydrogen atoms are formed they inherently 'repel' each other. But in the formation of those hydrogen atoms more fields congregate from that nebula mix - and JOIN OR BIND the hydrogen atoms together. These little biding fields are a TERTIARY MAGNETIC FIELD. Eventually they form a star and then - and this is not speculative - these stars are seen to become a self sustaining star system that moves away from that nebula. Many such movements of many such stars then form a galaxy. And many such galaxies are KNOWN to be forumulated from a single nebula. Now. What bends the mind is the thought that if a single nebula can give birth to multiple galaxies and if a single nebula also comprises only ONE broken string of orbiting zipons from the PRIMARY FIELD - then how long must that string have been? and how big then is the universe? It boggles the mind.

Put very simplistically, it is these TERTIARY MAGNETIC FIELDS that move and bind and arrange atoms and molecules. If that arrangement, or that 'amalgam' as I've termed it - is conductive or inductive - then it is capable of GENERATING A CURRENT FLOW but only in closed circuit conditions. But to do so it must first break the symmetries in its field condition. This means that it releases that BONDED condition of the atoms. This stresses the bonded condition in its entirety. Again. It releases 'unused' fields from their previously bound condition. It shakes the atoms loose. It breaks the 'string' or the symmetry of its orbit in a field that retained that bound condition. The fields that are not being used for current flow - those zipons that were holding the atoms bound - they become hot and slow and big - and we see this as heat. Those zipons that see a potential to bind something, can reorganise their spin, as required, provided that it can forge some path to orbit that it can change its spin as required.

TERTIARY MAGNETIC FIELDS - like all magnetic fields - can resist other magnetic fields. In an unbound condition TERTIARY MAGNETIC FIELDS can manifest as heat. In a field condition, being inside an amalgam or an abode - they are cold and fast and entirely invisible. Ouside of a field they can be hot and slow and entirely visible as flame or heat. Current flow is proposed to be a 'FIELD CONDITION'. Many strings forming many loops that move through space but are invisible to our dimensions.

Finally in a field condition, the proposal is that these zipons can only ever interact with other zipons. The particles inside an atom are invisible. But in the fast big hot state, then they can identify and move towards matter or towards actual particles. This then allows them to identify 'abodes' to move towards, and allows them to organise the charge balance of those abodes that they can then disappear again into a 'field' state and hold those particles bound.

It is TERTIARY MAGNETIC FIELDS that are used in the generation of electric current flow.

edited. I split this post because it seemed too long. Hope you're still here Suchayo.

[sucahyo]

Thank you, but I still can not grasp the answer.

Can you list the difference between self destroy zipon in current flow and eternal zipon in magnetic field?

Magnetic field of a magnet is at what level?

What is the relation between atomic energy level with magnetism?

[witsend]

Thank you, but I still can not grasp the answer.

Can you list the difference between self destroy zipon in current flow and eternal zipon in magnetic field?

Magnetic field of a magnet is at what level?

What is the relation between atomic energy level with magnetism?

LOL. I'm still missing you Suchayo. I'll start again - but I'll have to work on it later. I'll try again tonight. Thanks for the questions. They're pretty jolly HUGE - all on their own. But they're also jolly good questions.

I'll think about the answers during the very busy day ahead.

[EgmQC]

Electron Gets Film Debut In First-ever Video Of Its Kind

interesting lecture.

Best Regards,
EgmQC

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Electron Gets Film Debut In First-ever Video Of Its Kind

interesting lecture.

Best Regards,
EgmQC

Golly EgmQC. I finally managed to get to the video. What an amazing sequence. Many thanks for the link. Can barely get my head around that time frame. An attosecond? It beggars the mind. The stat given is that it is to a fraction of a second what a second is to the age of the universe? That's simply mind boggling. If they could work out the distance it travels we'd also know if that orbit exceeds light speed. Wish I knew. I'd love to find something that blows that barrier as well. But how extraordinary is this!

Another amazing picture I saw was actually of a cluster of atoms. It looks like a nest of toad's eggs - glittery and spherical - but half the egg shrouded in a sort of mist. Have no idea where I saw that picture but keep it in the mind's eye. So interesting. And apparently the next step is to show the electron bombarding an atom with that same stroboscopic laser technology. That will be EXTRAORDINARY. Those Swedes are ACING it.



ADDED Btw Sucahyo - I have not got round to answering your question and right now I am exhausted. I'll give it a go in the morning. Also noticed with some alarm that I've been spelling your name wrongly. Am mortified. Abject apologies.

[sucahyo]

Electron Gets Film Debut In First-ever Video Of Its Kind

Nice .

ADDED Btw Sucahyo - I have not got round to answering your question and right now I am exhausted. I'll give it a go in the morning. Also noticed with some alarm that I've been spelling your name wrongly. Am mortified. Abject apologies.

No problem, thinking takes toll to our mind and prevent sleep, we need to rest .

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Hi sucahyo,

Thank you, but I still can not grasp the answer.

Can you list the difference between self destroy zipon in current flow and eternal zipon in magnetic field?

The proposal is that the zipon is absolutely the final smallest part of all matter and is, therefore, not destructible. Effectively all zipons are ETERNAL. When a 'string' is broken these disassociated zipons move to restructure themselves in a balanced orbital arrangement because such an orbit is the ONLY way it can express balance, being, as it is a magnetic dipole. Here are the potential stable orbits.

2 zipons can orbit each other. This is the photon.
3 zipons can orbit each other. This is the electron.
9 zipons can orbit each other. This is the proton.

That's it. No other stable associations. All other composites would fail or degrade or simply decay back into the greater field. That's in terms of an anlysis of their orbital symmetries.

Multiple strings of orbiting fields (those necklaces) come in a variety of forms.

A primary magnetic field is toroidal and is characterised by moving all matter towards the centre of its fields. This would give the same effect as gravity.

A secondary magnetic field is disc shaped, being two dimensional and comprising the energy levels of atoms on the atomic scale and also the energy levels of stars on a stellar scale. These fields can trap matter, such as the electron (on the atomic scale) and it can trap planets (on the stellar scale) INSIDE it's fields. When the charge of that trapped particle is imbalanced such as is evident in a particle with a single charge or a planet with its own magnetic field - then that 'trapped' condition also induces an axial or orbital spin.

A tertiary magnetic field comprises complex fields or stings that intertwine in fiields around all atomic matter. These fields have a numerical consistency depending on the quantity of that matter. On the subtle levels they bind atoms into amalgams and on a gross level they bind stars into galaxies. They are responsible for the charge distribution in all amalgams and move to distribute the charge evenly - in space.

All matter - be it particulate or gross, or be it secondary or tertiary magnetic fields - ALL are the product of broken strings or 'symmetries' from the primary fields seen as nebulae. It is a progress that systematically moves towards structuring those magnetic dipoles back to the primary magnetic field. Effectively, the 'black holes' in the centre of galaxies are able to reconstitute that matter back into magnetic dipoles or zipons that then thread back into the greater primary field. Obviously the requirement is that the galaxies themselves combine into ever bigger structures as there is a critical mass required to make that string sufficiently long.

EDITED - I've split this post as well. It doesn't fit on a page on my computer. Makes reading difficult for me. Sorry for the interruption

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Magnetic field of a magnet is at what level?

Are you referring to a permanent bar magnet? A permanent bar magnet has a toroidal field. But it is a secondary field induced from the tertiary of 'binding fields' in amalgams. However it is caused, it results from an artificial or anomalous association of its own tertiary (binding) fields and an applied magnetic field. In the case of rare earth metals - for instance - the hot condition applicable to our younger planet - would expose the 'matter' particles to the influence of those binding fields. Being hot is evidence that the binding fields have not 'settled' into their 'abodes' or into their field condition - which is slow and fast and invisible. Their symmetries are still 'broken'. You must remember that our earth only has a single direction on its surface. It only moves FROM north TO south. That is experienced as a voltage imbalance or an applied gradient. It is 'effectively' an 'electric' condition. An electric field induces a magnetic field. And that rule applies here. The INDUCED magnetic field then comes from those binding zipons around the structure of that rare earth material. These fields are 'extruded' from the material and effects the 'bound' condition of that metal. They remain extruded depending on the rate at which the material structure cools. Given a certain catastrophic rate then the magnetic field is not incorporated back into the material of the metal and remain extruded as a magnetic field.

What is the relation between atomic energy level with magnetism?

I think I answered this. The atomic energy level comprises a field of orbiting zipons that takes a disc shape being a two dimensional shape having no breadth. In effect it is simply a pure magentic field orbiting with a single justification - either clockwise or anticlockwise. These fields can retain their structure or their integrity against the primary field.

These secondary fields are only called secondary as they are the second fields that can form. When a hydrogen atom is formed it comes with a precise ratio of zipons to matter particles. Those zipons congregate in two dimensional fields that circle the nucleus. These are known as energy levels.

Please note - while nebulae and dark holes and energy levels and the rest of the stuff referred to here - is essentially mainstream knowledge - the attribution to the structure of the fields is purely in terms of my proposed zipon thesis and may very well be wrong. I only say this because I've just read the above and I am stating things as fact where I should be pointing to thesis or proposed. I'm sure you can tell which is which.

[sucahyo]

Thank you, zipon is eternal, but molecule isn't, but what it the reason zipon neutralize acid molecule but not neutralizing permanent magnet molecule?

Why lead acid battery reduce it zipon loop link overtime but permanent magnet always have continuous zipon loop link?

I think I answered this. The atomic energy level comprises a field of orbiting zipons that takes a disc shape being a two dimensional shape having no breadth. In effect it is simply a pure magentic field orbiting with a single justification - either clockwise or anticlockwise. These fields can retain their structure or their integrity against the primary field.

I mean in quantity, amount of atomic energy level equal to magnetic energy level?

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Hope This Answers The Question

Thank you, zipon is eternal, but molecule isn't, but what it the reason zipon neutralize acid molecule but not neutralizing permanent magnet molecule?

Sucahyo, I think what we're looking at here is a question of quantity. You need to remember that the only way a zipon field can be truly neutral (which is proposed to be it's immutable imperative) it needs to orbit. Now. An orbit simply describes a circle moving in a single justification. Just imagine driving a car around a round-about. You are moving in one direction - say clockwise. Now imagine that the circumference of the round-about is precisely as long as 20 cars joined bumper to bumper. And you are all circling that roundabout at a fixed speed - say 10 Kph. You will see that 10 of the cars will be moving in precisely the opposite direction to the other ten. Draw an imaginary line through the centre of that circumference and - wherever you position that line - one half of the cars are moving in an opposite direction to the other half. Now replace those cars, in your mind's eye - with 10 zipons. The same principle applies.

The charge of a particle is determined by the direction it takes within a magnetic field. For instance, when an electron is released into a 'bubble chamber' it will spiral either with a left justification or a right justification (depending on the applied magnetic field) until it finds the 'centre' of that field. Then it will hang - sort of 'suspended' in that area - and will show a small 'twist' in one direction - not sure if it's a half spin or 3/4 spin. Whatever. Whatever it's spin it is precisely opposite to the direction of the spiral and spin of a proton in that same magnetic field. Therefore convention attributed the two particles to have two opposite spins and it further attributed a positive charge to the proton as opposed to a negative charge in the electron. What is relevant here is this. Their charge is determined by the direction of spin within a magnetic field.

If charge is determined by this 'direction' and if the magnetic field simply comprises multiple strings (those necklaces) and if these strings also have a 'spin' then that string is simply a series of magnetic dipoles or zipons, that orbit - this clockwise or anticlockwise direction or justification - in two different directions. It is both down and up - or positive and negative. One half of the orbit always opposes the other half. So. An orbit effectively expresses two charges - but with a single justification or directional flow. Effectively therefore a magnetic field orbits and that orbit has within it two distinct charge potentials.

Now, because the thesis depends on symmetry or balance (required by Bell's theorems) - for a field to be truly balanced - then as many fields would move 'clockwise' as 'anticlockwise'. Let's take lead as an example. I'm not sure of the electron shell distribution but I know that its outer energy levels have a balanced electron distribution. It has no intrinsic valence imbalance. Effectively too, this means that it's atomic condition is also balanced. Therefore - in terms of this thesis, in order for the zipons to join two lead atoms they would be balanced. I think the outer shell has 6 electrons. This is divisible by two. Theoretically therefore, two separate fields - one moving clockwise and one moving anticlockwise - would hold two lead atoms together and balance the charge of those atoms. Now imagine that we have two copper atoms. Here there is a valance imbalance. Only one outer electron. Not divisible by 2 therefore only one field of zipons could hold two copper atoms together. That's intrinsically IMBALANCED. It means that it would have a single justification and in order to get any 'balance' in that 'grip' it would need to arrange the copper in a circle. Remember that a circle - by definition - gives the apparent balance where one half balances the other half. That way they would be able to hold these copper atoms in a relatively fixed position while retaining a tenuous charge balance. That way too, the proposal is that on these very subtle levels the lattice structure of crystalline matter is arranged. But if there's oxygen or any other atoms within the proximity of those zipons - they'll latch onto it and hold it in a molecular grip - simply to relieve the stress of a single justification. Balanced is everything and charge balance most essentially required. And here, to attach the oxygen - all they need to do is split their fields and create two fields with two justifications - where only one was previously used.

So it is that in sulphuric acid the sulphur is attached to the lead and the hydrogen is freed from that molecular bond.

EDITED I'll answer the balance of this question and your others in a separate poste. But I'll have to do this later. Tempus fugit and I've just run out of time. I'll try again tonight.

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Sucahyo, I saw this on another thread. I read it briefly and now can't stop reading. Where is there any difference between this and my own little thesis? It's extraordinary. Golly.

Where is this from? Can you give another link. Sorry to keep imposing on you like this - but I'm a beginner in Tesla studies. This is AMAZING.

J.J. Thomson discovered electrons in vacuum discharges; assuming that these "electric particles" operated in all instances where electrical activity was observed. Victorian researchers did not accept this view completely. Thomson's "electrons" were viewed as the result of violent collisions across a vacuum acceleration space. It was not possible to ascertain whether these same "Thomson currents" were active within electrical conductors operating at small voltages.

Very reputable experimenters besides Tesla continued claiming that "space flowing electricity" is the real electricity. Tesla's classic demonstrations proved that rapid electrical impulses actually exceed the ability of fixed charges to transmit the applied forces. Charges lag where electrostatic forces continue propagating. One is compelled to see that electrostatic forces precede the movement of charges.

Tesla saw that electrostatic impulses could flow without line charges. His "zero current coils" operated simply because the charges themselves were immobilized. Electricity was shown to be more in the nature of a flowing force rather than a stream of massive particles. But what then was this "flow*ing current"?

In Tesla's view, radiant electricity is a space flowing current, which is NOT made of electrons. Later Victorians believed that there was a substance, which both filled all space and permeated all matter. Several serious researchers claimed to have identified this gas. Notables, such as Mendeleev predicted the existence of several ultra-rare gases, which preceded hydrogen. These, he claimed, were inert gases. This is why they were rarely detected. The inert gases, which Mendeleev predicted, formed an atmosphere, which flooded all of space. These gaseous mixtures composed the Aether.

Tesla and others believed that both electrical and magnetic forces were actually streams of Aether gas, which had been fixated in matter. Materials were somehow "polarized" by various "frictive" treatments by which an Aether gas flow was induced in them. Most materials could maintain the flow in*definitely, since no work was required on their part. Matter had only to remain polarized, transducing the Aether flow. The Aether gas contained all the power. Unlimited power.

WOW.

[sucahyo]

Thank you. I think quantity explain it. Different molecule have different bond.

I forget where I get it, but here it is:
Gerry_Vassilatos-Lost_Science_Chapter_2-3-4-5-6-7.doc - download now for free. File sharing. Software file sharing. Free file hosting. File upload. FileFactory.com

hopefully you can get it before it expired....