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  • #91
    Hi.
    I am afraid I have bad news.
    I finished the cell, here is what it looked like:







    I used distilled water and put as much salt in it as it could take until no more salt was dissolving in it. Then I poured that saltwater into the cell. Some hydrogen bubbles started to form even if the electrodes were not connected together. I connected the cells in series. First cell gave about 1V, each next cell gave about 20% more in the overall voltage, that is probably because of the common electrolyte. I could get about 2A of current in short circuit, then I though that if each new cell gives only slight increment of voltage, this must mean there is some current leaking inbetween cells, so I connected the electrodes of each cell together so that each cell works separately. This gave a bit better results in gydrogen production, but the production was still too small. It was so small that it even could not sustain a very small torch flame. I guess that if I put all that energy the pump used into a standard hho cell, I would have more hydrogen than the magnesium was producing. I let the cell work about 2h, but nothing changed, still small hydrogen production. If I pushed the lid of the cell down a bit, I could squeeze more hydrogen out for a small time and burn it in the torch, but this way I could sustain the flame only for few seconds. I think it is all because of the electrode surface area, I mean one magnesium rod has a surface area of about 160cm2 so the combined magnesium surface area is about 950cm2. To compare, one of my hho cell plates has a surface area of 300cm2, this means that overall magnesium surface area was about the same as three plates of my standard hho cell which are 15cmx20cm each. I think that I could sustain a small flame on the torch if the surface area was at least 3x bigger. So that's about that. Another thing is that in these 2 hours while the cell was running, a considerable amount of sediment was formed. I mean if that much sediment was formed creating so little h2, I can't imagine what size filter would you need for a cell that can run your car See for yourself:





    Thanks,
    Jetijs
    It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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    • #92
      Would this help???

      Jetijs,

      I thought you might find this website interesting. Maybe it will help???

      Pacheco Hydrogen Generator products | Pacheco | Hydrogen Generator | Hydrogen | Water Power | Run Your Car On Water


      VegasScorpion

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      • #93
        Thanks,
        but that site looks like a scamers page. They say they offer Pachetco generators, but there is no pictures of actual generators, just some cutouts from the patents. How can they say that their generators will put out a certain amount of h2 and give other specifics but give no pictures at the same time. Also google displays a warning of attack site if you try to enter that page.
        It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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        • #94
          Hi Jetijs,

          Sorry to hear about your results. At least we know of one way not to do it now.

          I don't think it's a total loss. I believe that the ratio of surface area could be the key.

          Cheers,

          Steve
          You can view my vids here

          http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
            Hi.
            I am afraid I have bad news.
            That is a sad news. How the output compare to your best electrolysis cell?

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            • #96
              Jetijs,

              So, it might be needed to make separate chambers for each tubeset, if i see your results here.
              How much thinner became your mag tubes in those 2 hours?

              btw, great test!


              Stevie

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              • #97
                Hi sucahyo
                Well, the output was small, I would guess that it would be something like my HHO drycell puts out at about 15-20w of input power.


                Stevie, the rods got hardly any smaller, but at the rate the sediments were produced, I wouldn't call this a hydrogen generator, but rather a magnesium hudroxide generator, because that is what it generates the most lol
                And this stuff is known to act as a laxative. So I have built a nice looking laxative making machine

                Thanks,
                Jetijs
                It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                • #98
                  You can view my vids here

                  http://www.youtube.com/SJohnM81

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                    Hi sucahyo
                    Well, the output was small, I would guess that it would be something like my HHO drycell puts out at about 15-20w of input power.


                    Stevie, the rods got hardly any smaller, but at the rate the sediments were produced, I wouldn't call this a hydrogen generator, but rather a magnesium hudroxide generator, because that is what it generates the most lol
                    And this stuff is known to act as a laxative. So I have built a nice looking laxative making machine

                    Thanks,
                    Jetijs
                    Hahahahahahaha....
                    You will be a relieved man, Jetijs..

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                    • CNC Machines

                      Hello Jetijs,
                      I agree it is a lot easier with a CNC machine especially when you are using an integrated CAD/CAM system to create the design and produce the CNC program. Have you tested your new design yet?
                      Regards,
                      Bill

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                      • Hi Bill
                        What do you mean by the new design? This six tube cell was the new design compared with the last using six PVC pipes that are connected together on bottom and did not have any filtering system
                        It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                        • Sorry I started This Thread

                          Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                          Hi Bill
                          What do you mean by the new design? This six tube cell was the new design compared with the last using six PVC pipes that are connected together on bottom and did not have any filtering system
                          Hi Jetijs,

                          Sorry I started this thread. I figured that Pacheco really had something there and I thought we should look into it. Thanks for all your effort of trying to give it a very good try. I'm very sorry it did not work out for you. It's obvious that you spent a lot of time and effort on the design and fabrication. It is a fabulous piece of workmanship.

                          Best Regards,
                          Slovenia

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                          • Slovenia, don't be sorry, it was a fun project
                            There are still some things I did not checked, for example the gap between electrodes and what effect it has on the output. Also I think that if all the cells were isolated better I would get greater voltages and thus more current and gas production. I think this think could be made practical, but as for me I am done with it for now
                            It's better to wear off by working than to rust by doing nothing.

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                            • Well, on the brightside of things, when Armegeddon hits, one won't have to worry about taking a sh*t

                              David

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                              • Originally posted by Jetijs View Post
                                Hi sucahyo
                                Well, the output was small, I would guess that it would be something like my HHO drycell puts out at about 15-20w of input power.
                                I see, thanks .

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