Francisco PACHECO Hydrogen Generator

[Slovenia]

Hang In There You Are Doing Great!!

Today just everything goes wrong. I tried to attach all the other steel electrodes to the end caps, but if you tighten the end caps just a bit too much, the weld breaks off. This happened to three of my steel electrodes, ok I thought I would perform the test with the three remaining electrodes that did not break, but when positioning them into the unit I broke off one of the plastic gas outlets, somehow it did not stick as good as the outlet on the test cap. Tried the remaining outlets for strength and they also broke off easily

This approach does not work. There has to be an easier way. I visited local hardware shops and looked around to see what they have in stock, now I have to sit down and think on how can I build a series cell easily with all the things I have available.

Jetijs,

Hang in there guy. You are doing great. You will soon be successful.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Bill In Texas]

General Questions

Hello All,
• In reading Francisco Pacheco’s patent number 5089107, he mentions that the cathode is the stainless steel lining of the plastic vessel. My question is: Why can’t you attach stainless steel plates to the side of the plastic vessel using nylon screws instead of having to construct a separate container?
• Does the surface area of the cathode have to be the same as the anode?
• Are there any photographs of Francisco Pacheco’s boat or car?
• Jetijs, instead of using glue to attach the hydrogen outlets to the cap of the cell; could you drill and tap a hole for a brass or plastic outlet as an alternate method?
• Is there a formula for the amount of hydrogen required per horsepower?

Jetijs, keep up the good work!

Best regards,
Bill

[Jetijs]

Hi Bill
Thanks for the suggestion, but I already decided to go for a different design. I don't know any formulas to calculate HP per certain amount of H2, it should depend on the engine and a whole bunch or different things. The surface area should preferably be equal or the anode should be at least the same area as the cathode if not bigger.

Anyway, here is my work on current setup:






This whole thing will be put in a large 200mm diameter plumbing pipe and the electrolyte will be filtered. Still much to do, but I have not abandoned the project, I just don't have enough free time
Thanks,
Jetijs

[Slovenia]

Masterpiece

Hi Bill
Thanks for the suggestion, but I already decided to go for a different design. I don't know any formulas to calculate HP per certain amount of H2, it should depend on the engine and a whole bunch or different things. The surface area should preferably be equal or the anode should be at least the same area as the cathode if not bigger.

Anyway, here is my work on current setup:






This whole thing will be put in a large 200mm diameter plumbing pipe and the electrolyte will be filtered. Still much to do, but I have not abandoned the project, I just don't have enough free time
Thanks,
Jetijs

Wow Jetijs,

That is a masterpiece. Beautiful Job!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Jetijs]

Thanks Slovenia
Here is another quick update:





Jetijs

[stevie1001]

Very very nice project, Jetijs!

Looking forward to your progress on this.

Steve

[Jetijs]

Thanks Steve.
The whole thing is designed so that the water will flow down and out at the middle of it, then through the pump and filter and back in the upper part of the cell. The easiest flow path will be in between the electrodes, this way the filtering will be most efficient. Those six hole near the middle of the cell are intended for the aluminum electrodes since I did not find any other suitable place where to put them. It is a shame I don't have access to magnesium in sheets, because then I could make the whole thing 10-20x more powerful using the same space as the current cell. But I have to work with what I have available and I can get the magnesium only in rods. But this will do for a quick test
Jetijs

[Slovenia]

Jetijs It's Incredible

Jetijs,

Thanks for the extra pics. It's incredible.

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[dambit]

Great looking setup you have there Jetijs

Keep up the good work.



Steve

P.S In Oz, the only way I have found to get Mg plate, is to have a metal shop order the ingots and cast them into plates. It's not as expensive as one would think, but it's still not super cheap.

[Jetijs]

Thanks Dambit

Here is an update with the aluminum electrodes put in place:







On magnesium casting. I read that it is not so easy as you think, it melts ok, just like aluminum, but unlike aluminum, its ignition point is near its melting point and in melted state it can ignite easily, so it must be done in non oxygen environment.
Thanks,
Jetijs

[Bill In Texas]

Jetijs Excellant Design

Hello Jetijs,
The progress on your new design is moving very quickly. I purchased hemispherical shaped Plexiglas for another project, but I believe that the shape at the bottom of the cylinder would help in extracting the water for filtration. Keep up the good work. Your design is a compact arrangement.
Regards,
Bill

[Jetijs]

Thanks Bill
At this point I don't think you need any special filtering areas inside the cell, I think a common water filter will do just finer anywhere in the electrolyte flow line. The important thing is to design the cell so that electrolyte flows inbetween the plates. Will see how a common filter will work and how long it will hold before it will need to be changed
Thanks,
Jetijs

[dambit]

On magnesium casting. I read that it is not so easy as you think, it melts ok, just like aluminum, but unlike aluminum, its ignition point is near its melting point and in melted state it can ignite easily, so it must be done in non oxygen environment.
Thanks,
Jetijs

Hi Jetijs,

That's probably true, but I guess that's what I'm paying them for.

I got a quote a few years ago from a metal shop in Melbourne, they wanted $140 for 8, 100mm x 100mm x 3 mm plates. I never ordered anything from them, but I was curious to know. When I finaly get around to building this device I will order the Mg from China as I have found a number of suppliers who can deliver Mg sheet in relatively small quantities.

Cheers,

Steve

[Slovenia]

Well Done Indeed!!

Hi Jetijs,

I've been studying your cell design. Your workmanship and engineering skills are incredible. Very nicely done indeed. It's a very complex; workable design; very intricate in nature. Extremely well done piece of work!!

Best Regards,
Slovenia

[Jetijs]

Thanks Slovenia
It is not so hard if you have a cnc machine available. This thing helped me a lot in my research

Jetijs