My proposed explanation for the great pyramids.

[rickoff]

@ schpankme: I was only quoting from a website to provide information to Aaron concerning the wheareabouts of the scribed marks in the descending passage that are said to mark the beginning of the so-called "pyramid timeline." Many believe this timeline to be of great significance, while others believe it is purely coincidental. I don't necessarily subscribe to, or attempt to promote either line of thought. My only intention was to show that there is indeed a scribed mark, associated with a timeline, as Aaron had stated, and not to spark a debate over religious beliefs or the meaning of scripture. I never would have dreamed that the quote would lead to a lengthy Bible lesson, and this thread doesn't seem like the appropriate place for that. I would suggest deleting your post from this thread, and placing it in either an existing Bible thread, or perhaps even starting a new one titled, "Jesus was a fake," or something along those lines. I would also suggest that anyone contemplating a rebuttal to your post take it up either in private messenging or elsewhere. Let's save this thread for discussion of pertinent material directly related to the topic at hand, which is a "proposed explanation for the great pyramids."

Rick

[Schpankme]

My only intention was to show that there is indeed a scribed mark, associated with a time-line...not to spark a debate over religious beliefs...lengthy Bible lesson

Rick,

The lesson here is, don't use the bible and it's fictional stories to try and prove the time-line of the Giza Pyramid. If you start with fiction you will end with fiction.

Schpankme

"Help help, I been Hypnotized." - David Letterman

[rickoff]

@schpankme: As anyone can plainly see, from my previous response, I was not trying to prove anything about the timeline theory - only stating that the theory, and the scribed mark in the ascending passage, does exist.

[Schpankme]

I was not trying to prove anything about the time-line theory

My opinion the age of the Great Pyramid of Giza is 68,973; and took approximately 700 years to construct.

Precession of the Equinoxes

Polaris is the current northern pole star
Thuban which is in the constellation Draco (the Dragon); you will find almost every ancient civilization has a symbol of a dragon chasing it's tail!
Vega at one time was the northern pole star and will be again in 13,727 CE when the declination will be +86°14'.

KEY 528…Is the Great Pyramid 70,000 years old? « Reconciliation of Science and Religion

FOUR CARDINAL STARS

Review the proper motions of these four stars: Fomalhaut 371", Regulus 249", Aldebaran 198", and Antares 24" in one thousand years. When comparing the angular distances with the directions of these motions, a rough estimation gives a clue about the possibility of a more fitting configuration, not today but some 70,000 years ago!

FOUR CARDINAL STARS - Part 1 - TETRAKTYS RESEARCH CENTRE
FOUR CARDINAL STARS - Part 2 - TETRAKTYS RESEARCH CENTRE

Schpankme

"Far Out" - John Denver

[ANTIQUER]

Hi Schpankme;

I would also suggest that anyone contemplating a rebuttal to your post take it up either in private messenging or elsewhere. Let's save this thread for discussion of pertinent material directly related to the topic at hand, which is a "proposed explanation for the great pyramids.

As suggested by Rickoff and previously by myself I have posted an answer in the "Bible" thread to your post quoting Ahmed Deedat. Please check for it there.

Al

[Richie_asg1]

Can I just add that Orion ,and Osiris were considered the same, and I will start a new thread on what I think Osiris was.

I think we have reached agreement that the Great Pyramid at Giza - is a lot older than most people think.
I have researched this myself, and came across "the girdle stones".
These are freestanding stones - within slots - that have been neatly carved through. These are higher up than the known blocking stones, and I believe this shows a re-working of the pyramid in the past.
I believe they were blocking stones originally, but after the Egyptians successfully lifted the outer 3, they simply chisseled through the rest to save time.

The Queens chamber looks like it was remodelled too - because of the "star shafts" suddenly changing direction, and the inner facing blocks could easily be transported in through the passageway.

The "escape shaft" for the builders sealed inside is just nonsense.
If that was the case - where did all the spoil go ? & how long till they died of starvation ?
It makes more sense that the original people to first dig their way into the pyramid - started as high up as they dared - then went straight up - shoving all the spoil in the lower pit. Once inside - they probably were the ones to figure out where the main entrance was & dig from both ends. It would be the only way out for the larger tems.

[Aaron]

Osiris

Osiris, why not post it here?

Does anyone know if there are any constellations that have 13 stars
exactly?

[jtstatic]

Flower of Life - The Golden Mean Spiral and the Merkaba

Check out pages 19-20, I think it's quite interesting piece of the puzzle because Hawaii is around the area where Mu was said to have resided..

It's also always the same story with these elder tribes, like with the Dogon in Africa for example (also introduced in Magical Egypt series). First you have to prove yourself with some tests before you're allowed inside..

I think it's interesting to see similar stories popping out at different places around the globe (still remember the Monks levitating stones described earlier in this thread?). It makes you think maybe some of the knowledge is still out there in one form or another..?

[aljhoa]

Constellations: Corona Australis 'the Southern Crown'

Does anyone know if there are any constellations that have 13 stars
exactly?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A40336111
β, α, γ ,ζ .......13

Corona Australis, Telescopium - Constellations - Digital Images of the Sky
Al

[Schpankme]

Does anyone know if there are any constellations that have 13 stars exactly?

There is also a 13th star/ zodiac sign called Ophiuchus. Of the 13 zodiacal constellations (constellations that contain the Sun during the course of the year), Ophiuchus is the only one not counted as an astrological sign. Ophiuchus is depicted as a man grasping a serpent. Ophiuchus is one of the 88 constellations and was also one of the 48 listed by Ptolemy. Ophiuchus was formerly referred to as Serpentarius, the former originating in Greek and the latter in Latin, both meaning "serpent-holder".

Schpankme

[Aaron]

Osiris and misc...

I just read Richie's post about Osiris in his new thread. I was thinking
there was 13 parts the body was cut into according to the story and
that is why I asked, but it was 14 as he showed, but it was 13 that was
supposed to be found by Isis. Been a while since I looked into that.

I like to see Ophiuchus included in Astrology - right between Scorpio and
Sagittarius. It's the healer and occupies the shortest window of the
13 constellations from my recollection.

Has anyone here read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike or other
"longhand" Masonic information that is available to anyone? There is quite
a bit that is detailed that is not mentioned in many other places. Just
curious and just fyi...

[jtstatic]

Has anyone here read Morals and Dogma by Albert Pike or other
"longhand" Masonic information that is available to anyone? There is quite
a bit that is detailed that is not mentioned in many other places. Just
curious and just fyi...

thx for the tip, I'll add it on my reading list.. the version I found in scribd is something like 800-900 pages long though

[Aaron]

Masonic books

Jtstatic,

Yes, my copy weighs probably 5 pounds or more.

The Illustrated History of Freemasonry by Moses Redding is also a good one.

Most cities/towns have multiple lodges and there is usually one that has
a library. If you have a friend that is a Mason, they can check out anything
and let you read it.

Anything in longhand (written out) is actually not secret - most people
don't know that. If it is written, anyone is allowed to see it - not that these
works will be spread out for the public, but they are available.

[HairBear]

Jtstatic,

Yes, my copy weighs probably 5 pounds or more.

The Illustrated History of Freemasonry by Moses Redding is also a good one.

Most cities/towns have multiple lodges and there is usually one that has
a library. If you have a friend that is a Mason, they can check out anything
and let you read it.

Anything in longhand (written out) is actually not secret - most people
don't know that. If it is written, anyone is allowed to see it - not that these
works will be spread out for the public, but they are available.

Why ask a Mason when they are archived online? The link below is just one of many...

Masonic Books Online

[Aaron]

library

HairBear,

That is a great resource thanks!

It is a small sample but valuable nevertheless. There is a treasure trove
of info in some of those books that I recognize.